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  • nikecarnikecar Posts: 460
    he should get some more zoom zoom stickers for 50hp... hehehehehehe

    seriously.... your bulbs should still work. While I'm not 100% certain, it will more than likely be direct fit replacements..
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    You won't need to replace the bulbs too. Those tailights should be pretty easy to replace. I have friends who have them on Integras and Civics. Are you getting the regular ones, or the carbon fiber look ones? Oh yeah, Maltb, since you didn't answer my question before, I take that as a "yes". Can you hook me up with a job? ;)
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    neither confirm nor deny your suspicions. Young grasshopper, you must snatch the stone from my hand before you are ready.
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    You do know that if your car is repainted a different color the inside door jams will still be black and also inside the hood and trunk lid. When you get ready to trade it people will think it has been wrecked.

    fowler3
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Paul, if you don't like the solid black, consider having it painted silver down to the door guards, and have them carry the color separation in a line around the car -- at bumper level. Maybe the top part of the bumpers painted silver and the bottoms left black.

    If you think silver is too great a contrast, use a medium grey metalic.

    To see the effect check out the top-line Camry and the Lexus ES300.

    fowler3
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    ...the effect I can paint one for you in Photoshop using a picture.

    After I finish my work that is. ;)

    fowler3
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    I think your stuck with black. If I had your car (actually, my last car WAS black) I wouldn't even THINK of repainting it. IMO, you would be ruining your brand new car because it will never have the same factory finish if you repaint it. Maltb, what movie is that from? I remember the quote, but I don't remember the movie. GOT IT!!! I got the stone from your hand!!! Now you have hook me up with a job. ;)
  • pjd58pjd58 Posts: 366
    with a 5 speed. My local dealers seem to only have auto. Are 5 speed LX 2.0 5 speeds rare? I really don't like the interior of the ES, with the dark cloth and white gauges. I test drove both and was happy with the Lx 2.0, Es seemed to have a firmer ride. I,m trying to locate a Mill. Red with alloys and moonroof, which are part of the current incentive pkg.

    This will be my third Protege, I currently have a 96 DX and previously owned a 91 DX. Both cars were flawless, although the 91 was much quicker.

    My Wife purchased a O1 LX MPV last April. This my first post on the Protege board, usually you'll find me with the MPV owners.
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    I think vocus should just leave it like it is. Don't paint it, don't change the fog lights, don't change the taillamps,don't change anything!

    Changes increase depreciation, some times dramatically.

    Wait a while and maybe something will come up, an opportunity, and he can trade for something he likes better.

    I saw one of the 2002 MB C-Class Coupes this evening, that car isn't much larger than the Protegé, in fact, it looks smaller. It was the AMG version with spoiler in Silver metallic. I wondered if the owner went for the $2800 leather trim in black and red. Even the steering wheel is black and red.

    By the way, there are three models of the C-Coupe, base model comes with 90hp at $29,950. Paul, this may be your next car! Buy a big shoehorne to get into it. ;)

    fowler3
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    I don't know about the States, but my LX 2.0 is a 5-speed manual (I got mine in Canada). I had no trouble at all getting it. Sounds like you're a big advocate of the Pro if this is going to be your third one! Good luck with your search! Keep us informed of your adventures looking for your new Pro.

    Pro_fan
  • laurakatlaurakat Posts: 69
    I'm looking to possibly purchase an LX 2.0 5-spd as well. The dealership I checked out here in MN has plenty of 5spds. I quess there rare in your neck of the woods.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I was actually looking at the pics of them today online, and changed my mind. I will keep the standard taillamps, thank you. :) Even if I did get the others, I would have kept the originals and put them back on at trade-in time probably. As far as the color, I thought about going from black to another color. I didn't know what they didn't paint though. The silver is a pretty cool idea, Fowler. But the appearance of the black isn't what's bad, it's the heat index. I figure it would be less with a lighter color. Guess I am stuck (actually blessed, because I have yet to see another black Protege yet!) with the black then. :)

    Fowler, changing the appearance of the car has nothing to do with not liking it. I like the car alot, but just wanted it to stand out among a crowd. I still wanna keep it and plan to for awhile. I do wanna change the fog lights though, because the custom fogs on my 1999 DX were hooked to light with the parking lamps, and I liked the way they looked. Very sporty.

    Nike, also cute about the stickers. :) I have one ZOOM-ZOOM sticker (the white one), but have yet to add it to my car. I don't wanna mess up the clean appearance with the sticker, and can't decide where to put it anyway.

    I had a decal on the back of my 1999 DX that I had custom made from someone on EBay. It said "Protege" in bubble letters, with blue and silver coloring. I really liked it alot, and wish I could get another one like it. I was also thinking about one of those windshield stickers, but they look too boy-racer for me.
  • yooper53yooper53 Posts: 286
    While watching the "yellow" zoom zoom commercial I thought those tail light lenses would look good if they "bolt" on. Have to call Mstuff next week.
    As vocus says just keep the originals for trade in.

    Apparently the strut tower brace on the '02 MP3 may bolt on the "01 ES 2.0L. Thing is I've never driven a car and then made the upgrade so have no idea as to "real" improvement to be expected. Any thoughts on that fowler3? Or anyone else with an opinion.

    Then lose the spoiler and ES decals for that sleeper look. My vision of the ideal ES. Wasn;t sure about the light sandalwood but have grown to like it a lot. Get compliments on color. Definitely didn't like the white guages but now I wouldn't go back.

    Later all.
  • yooper53yooper53 Posts: 286
    And thanks for any feedback.
  • sfratsfrat Posts: 205
    Don't forget, Racing beat is working on some stuff for the Protege. I wonder if the MP3 exhaust would fit on a regular ES, anyone inquired?

    Vocus, you were scaring me with some of the mods you were thinking about. The window tinting will look very sharp, I'm goign to do it myself in a month, before the MAPP II meet. I also think you will notice a difference in the interior temps of the car with the windows tinting. Somehow, I think its the fact that the seats, dash, carpets are black that is makign the car hot, not the exterior color. My roomate has his car, which is black exterior, tan seats, black dash, black carpets, and his car is not too hot at all. Ive forgotten what my point is, as its early, and I just got up.

    Steve
  • vocus: Yes, I have the black mica but since I live in GA you probably don't have to worry about seeing me on the road any time soon. I have yet to see a black ES here either. They had one other black 5-speed at the dealer, everything else was gold or green.

    My fiance swears by Bosch Plat+4..he puts them in every car he buys. I put them in my 99 Accord at it's 30k service and it seemed to run a little smoother..and when I put them in the 93 Accord it made a world of difference. Engine was smoother and it seemed to have just a bit more power (but maybe the power thing is psychological).

    Here in GA it's been around 90-95 the past few days and even though it's hot when you first get in the car the AC cools it down pretty effectively. Tinted windows would help tremendously but I don't know if I will ever have time to go down to Fl...I hate work...takes up too much of my time.. :(
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    CorkSport Mazda Performance has just listed several new engine performance items that will fit both the 1.8L and 2.0L engines!!!! Here's what they are:


    J-SPEC
    2.0 FS-ZE* intake manifold
    Fits 1.8, 2.0
    $530


    J-SPEC
    2.0 FS-ZE* intake camshaft
    Fits 1.8, 2.0
    $168


    J-SPEC
    2.0 FS-ZE* Piston set
    Fits 1.8, 2.0
    $180


    MAZDASPEED
    Exhaust camshaft
    Fits 1.8, 2.0
    $142


    MAZDASPEED
    Chromoly flywheel
    Fits 1.8, 2.0
    $172

    MAZDASPEED
    Stainless steel header
    Fits 1.8, 2.0
    $739


    MAZDASPEED
    High compression piston set
    Fits 1.8, 2.0
    $120


    *The FS-ZE engine is the 170hp 2.0L used in the Japanese "Sport 20" -- their suped-up Protege5 with all-wheel drive and auto-manual transmission.


    Personally, I prefer the Mazdaspeed parts since they are Mazda's in-house tuning division (like Mercedes Benz's AMG). Unfortunately, evil emissions laws here in California may not allow me to use these parts, but I will certainly look into it!!

  • pjd58pjd58 Posts: 366
    thanks for your nice welcome and advice.

    Went to a local dealer and they tried to push an 01 ES on me. I really want a 2.0 LX and I'm willing to wait. They are receiving their last allocation of 01 Pros in a couple of weeks. The Salesman said they expect to receive a Sand Mica 2.O LX 5 speed. I may consider the Sand Mica, although M Red is my first choice. My Wife has a Sand Mica 01 LX MPV.

    I might go on carsdirect to have them find my Pro. I heard some good things about carsdirect, they even will deliver your new car to your front door.
    BTW, dealer only offered me $3000 for my 96 DX Pro 5 speed with 55,000. I'm going to try to sell it myself.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    I saw an LX Pro in red the other day outside the office....looked pretty sharp! Don't know if it was stick or auto...I'm guessing auto b/c it is a rental car.
    Also, I've noticed that the dealership where I bought my Pro from is offering 0% financing (not sure of the length of term) on the SE and LX models (ES and Pro 5 not included), so you might want to check on that before you buy! Apparently there's not a huge demand here for LX models...dunno why...I LOVE my LX!! Only thing I'm pissed about is that I bought my Pro a month ago, not at 0% financing!!! :(

    Good luck with your quest!

    Regards,

    Pro_fan
  • pjd58pjd58 Posts: 366
    I know how you feel. My Wife purchased a 01 MPV in March and 2 weeks later Mazda raised the rebate from $500 to $1500. She loves her MPV and is happy with her decision.

    I'm aware of the 0% for 48 months and also free alloys and moonroof.

    Glad to hear you like your LX 2.0, it's a nice car. I love the 2.0 LX, I just prefer the interior over the ES. Although, the ES and LX 2.0 are in the same price range, I'm going to pull the trigger on a LX 2.0. I have to find a 5 speed, no slush box for me.

    I saw a white 01 Pro yesterday, it looked nice. I'm usually don't like white cars but the Protege looked awesome in white. White must be a rare color. It's the first 99-01 white Pro I've ever seen.

    Pete
  • compensatecompensate Posts: 212
    I own a 1999 Protege ES (actually, wife drive it now after blowing the engine in her 1995 Neon). It is a 5-speed.

    I have changed the oil and filter every 5000 miles with synthetic oil (Mobil 1). I replaced the wiper blades about 6 months ago. I replaced the spark plugs and tires at about 25,000 miles. I replace air filters and PCV valves every 20,000 miles (done it twice so far for each). I drained the manual trans around 30,000 miles and replaced it with synthetic gear oil (75W-90, I think).

    I still have everything else original, including all brake pads. The car now has 46,800 miles on it. We're getting to the end of the bumper-to-bumper warranty, so I hope if something important is going to malfunction that it does so within the next 3,000 miles.

    The ONLY repair that has been needed was a new water pump at only 5,000 miles. The car started making a weird clattering sound around then, but ran perfectly (just noisy as heck). When the dealer looked at it, they found that one of the internal fins had broken off the water pump and was being grinded against by the other fins as they spun around. The dealer said it was the first time they had ever seen that happen to a water pump on a low mileage Mazda. This is the only problem we have had with the car outside of regular maintenance, and the dealer gave us a rental car and had the repair finished in less than 2 days.

    Our Protege doesn't burn a drop of oil between changes and feels as spunky as the day we bought it. No rattles, buzzes, or anything else. Of course, my Protege was built in Japan, while I think the newer ones are built in the US, so I don't know if that will be a factor with the new cars or not.
  • pjd58pjd58 Posts: 366
    All Pros are built in Japan, I wouldn't have it any other way. When the Pro starts becoming a Ford(focus)I will say sooooooo looooooong to Mazda.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    Some jerk hit my back bumper on my 01 ES in the parking lot yesterday. I only have 8000 miles, the car is mint, and now this. It made two huge marks and it ruined the plastic bumper cover. They left no note, hit & run. I can't believe what kind of POS would do something like that. They shouldn't be driving. I was so P'd off that I couldn't see straight and I swear I'd be in prison now if I found out who did it. Now I have to pay my $250 deductable to get it fixed and my insurance premium may go up and to top it off, silver is really hard for a body shop to match. Arrrrrrgggggg!!!!!!!!!
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    That stinks...make sure you get a good shop, you are right about that clear coat silver. If I'm not mistaken, the original bumper has two different painting methods: lower portion is slight orange peel, and the upper portion is smooth. Look at it closely under the clearcoat and see if I'm right before you hand the keys to the bodyshop.

    :)
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    People like that should really be locked up (or shot)...I feel for you Todd! That's my nightmare!! Good luck matching it up! Keep us updated on how it goes!

    Regards,

    Pro_fan
  • yooper53yooper53 Posts: 286
    Do you have broad form collision? I had someone ding my Pro in a parking lot, no note. I notified the police and it won't cost me anything.
  • pjd58pjd58 Posts: 366
    I would be so pissed I couldn't see straight. Someone hit my wife's front bumper(hit and run) 3 years ago. Had her 95 626 (gold) repainted and it looked great and held up well. I know how upset you are. Like Maltb said, find a great bodyshop and let them know you want your Protege perfect. If you have a good relationship with your Mazda dealer talk to the Servive Mgr,I'm sure he can recommend a good shop.
    People who hit and run are POND SCUM!

    Pete
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Probably a bluehaired old lady who parks by ear. Uses her longnosed Buick to ram through traffic.

    Check out the bodyshops, they vary greatly in quality work. Don't go where your insurance adjuster suggests, they like the cheap shops.

    Metallic paint has to be sprayed on at the same angle as the factory painted the car or it will look different from the other paint, if the metal flakes go on at a different angle the sunlight reflects differently.

    Years ago when I had an office in a small mall, a lady came in and asked if I would check her car. It was an old model Cadillac, she had just had it painted at a cheap shop -- the surface felt just like sandpaper there was so much metal flake in it.

    Also reminds me of when I special ordered paint on a new Buick Riviera. I sellected a Cadillac paint the Buick factory had never used before. They had to paint that car three times! First time, Cadillac didn't send enough paint. Second time, it was the wrong shade of light blue. Third time, they got enough paint, the right color, and screwed up on spraying it. The front end was a different shade than the rest of the car because two different people painted the two sections. Metallic paint. At that time, Buick would paint a car any color a buyer wanted for $85.00. After their experience with the Cadillac paint, the price went up to $285.

    To give you an idea how long ago that was, that loaded Riv cost $6,450. In 1981, the Mazda GLC Special Edition hatchback cost about the same amount. Ah, the good old days.

    fowler3
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    I need it. I am really worried about a body shop doing a cut-rate job on my brand new car. I know which shop I am going to take it to. Its called Lamettry's and it must be good if it is one of the few body shops in the country that can do frame repair on aluminum body cars like the Audi A8. Thanks for the tip Maltb, I will check that out. I'm still worried though about paint match, and fit and finish.....I am a stickler. I was almost in shock when I saw the damage. I seriously believe that people who do things like that should not be driving. If you can't pay attention going .5 mph in a parking lot, then how can you be trusted on the freeway going 65 mph? It scares me. Yooper-Broad Form collision? whats that? Do you have to fill out a police report? This happened in Minneapolis and I don't think that they would waste their time on something like this.
  • im5im5 Posts: 6
    I'm really sorry to hear your incident. But the other day I was just passing by Lametry's Body Shop at Eden Prairie, and judging from the building and the cars parking there, waiting to be repaired--Audi A8, Porsche Boxster, Acura Legend, Volvo, etc.--I'm sure they'll do a good job (I know it doesn't sound like a scientific way to make judgement, but hey, first impression counts). Keep us posted with the progress and I certainly hope all the best!

    im5
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