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Mazda Protegé

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  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Congrats on a great car! You'll enjoy it for sure. Just one question: How much extra would the ES have been? When I bought my 2000 ES, you could also buy the LX with all those options ... but they added up to almost the same price as an ES. Things have probably changed for the 2001 MY, but I was just wondering ...?

    Meade in Richmond, VA
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    You must've just arrived at work. I've been here since 7:15, doing lots of work! (Yeah, right ... read all the posts I've penned ... or is that keyboarded? ... this morning!)

    I finally got out the bucket and towels yesterday afternoon and gave my Protege a much-needed bath. He's got to look sharp and shiny for his oil change and tire rotation this afternoon!

    (Don't ask me why -- all my other cars have been female, but for some reason, this car is a "he." Must be his naughty attitude -- he doesn't like going the speed limit and he's always getting me into trouble!)

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    That's four posts in three minutes, FCOL!

    Meade
  • Meade,

    Fun post...it does make you wonder how much tolerance to poor build quality has been built into public perception concerning American cars. If that guy thinks that his car has been "not a lot of trouble", I would like to here his definition of a lemon? Maybe the wheels need to fall of on the highway or an engine blow a few time before he get miffed!

    I think I must have gotten a good one though. My '98 Cav has been pretty reliable after 74,000 miles. The only maintanence, other than oil changes and tire rotations, I've had done is a break job and just recently had to replace a resistor that controls the blower speed. I think there was one or two recalls a few years back but I don't remember what they were for.

    I am sorry to hear that you're having so much trouble with your wife's Cav. It must have been a good day at the plant when mine was built. : )

    Eastside
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    was subject to the infamous head gasket recall. Chevy obviously designed some faulty heads and instead of replacing them, they'll replace your head gasket if it blows up to 100,000 miles. We've had it done twice. The recall applied to several model years in the mid-90s. You lucked out!

    Sorry, I know this is an off-topic post -- but a little variety, now and then, is a good thing ... dontchathink?

    :)

    Meade

    (Be careful what you shoot at, Ryan ... most things in here don't react well to bullets!)
  • You people post too much, lol.

    I am wrapping up my first month with the Protege and I have put 1100 miles on her. So far I love this car. No problems to report although when it is hot outside and a start driving with the AC on the center console will rattle as the car cools down but that's not a very big deal. I just turn the stereo up louder for a few minutes.

    As far as GM build quality goes, my fiance bought a 2000 Silverado 5.3. While my Accord with over 30,000 miles had never seen a dealer for anything but it's 30,000 mile service his truck spent it's first week at the dealer for a cracked frame around the sliding rear window, the throttle was sticking, and there were rust spots in the paint from when the truck was in-transit. While he didn't really have any problems after that there was still a noticable difference in the build quality. That's why after 1 year and 7,500 miles he traded it in for a 94 LS400. That was one of his better decisions in my opinion.

    MAPP2 sounds like fun but I usually don't know up until a couple of weeks before if I'm able to take the time off work. If everything works out, Virginia isn't THAT far. Maybe by then my fiance can get his Protege5 at 0.0% interest and we can bring them both ;)
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    We're just a talkative bunch!

    We'd love to have you at MAPP II, and I'd love to send you the details. But I need your e-mail address. You don't have to post it here ... you can e-mail me at:

    mdaffron@the-rma.org

    We hope you can make it!

    Meade
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    My mother's friend, who was a mechanic, told me a way to tell the gender of your car. You stand like 2 steps behind the car, and if you can see the tailpipe while looking straight down without bending, it's a boy. If not, it's a girl. My Protege is a female. Sick isn't it? :)
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    a tailpipe to a penis? I don't know about you, but my Protege's tailpipe exhausts waste products from the car. If anything, it's a ...

    THAT'S FAR ENOUGH FOR THAT ANAL(oops)-OGY!

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    But that just made us No. 3 in Edmunds Hot Topics!

    Meade
  • I would like to see a board devoted to the Protege MP3, with any eye towards getting as many of the 1500 owners together in one place on the web.

    Any MP3 owners out there???
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    There is one person, with a screen name of something "Bob". I remember him from a couple posts back. Scroll back and check it out.

    Meade, you are just a nasty thing! :) You made me blush. :)
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Are we not worthy enough? After all, the MP3 is just a tweaked ES with a facelift.

    (There, THAT oughta bring some comments!)

    But really ... we're all Protege owners, eh? I was a little perturbed to see a separate Protege5 topic with many members who never visit us in the four-door board. I even posted an invitation to the second-annual Mid-Atlantic Protege Picnic over there, and received not one response!

    Buncha haughty, stuck-up twerps ...

    Meade
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    is all these ricers are giving their cars gender changes by putting these huge Yuban cans on their tailpipes. You can see it from a mile away, but does it help performance? not a bit. Maybe some Viagra in the tank would be better served.

    :)
  • laurakatlaurakat Posts: 69
    It's almost 10 AM CST and I thought I'd check this forum to see if anyone replied to my post last night. I expected 3 or 4 new posts. Holly crap, almost 20 new posts!!! I'm responding to posts waaaaay back, oh, about 2 hours ago!

    Pro-fan and Larry, Thanks for the congrats! I bought the dark green (I can't remember Mazda's official name for the color). It really looks sharp w/ the alloys. Pro-fan, funny you mentioned my wife complaining about taking corners too fast. She DID complain last night! I wasn't even taking them that fast, breaking in the new car and all. She really likes the car, but says it feels too small. She's used to driving our minivan and riding with me in my Intrepid. One bonus, she doesn't know how to drive a stick, so she won't be hogging the Pro, leaving me with the "family truckster". She wants me to teach her. I told her I need to break the car in for a while (oh, maybe 50k miles or so!!!). Don't want her fryin' the clutch on my shiny new car!

    Jace - The dealer I bought this from actually had two LX 2.0 5spds with the ABS/SAB package. The other was a light green one that I test drove a couple weeks ago. The sales guy was telling me how hard it was to get these with the ABS/SAB package. I thought he was just feeding me a line of bull for the negotiation process. Maybe there hard to come by in your neck of the woods, but in Burnsville, MN, this dealer had two, and one has been sitting around for at least a couple of weeks. Good luck on your search.

    Mike.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Hey, mine's green (Emerald Mica) too!

    Meade
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Hey if you look at post #3586 on this board it looks like there is an interested person for MAPP II. Krotine was his name. From his post it sounded like he was going to MAPP II.

    Mike (laurakat) my advice is NOT to let her drive at all. My g/f drove the car once. And she managaed to get behind a gravel truck and WHAM. 4 or 5 new chips outta my hood. This was when it wasn't even a month old. For your sanity (and your marriage!!) don't let her drive. :)

    I agree about NOT starting a seperate MP3 board. After all it is still a SEDAN. It just happens to be factory tuned. The only reason that I could see for starting a new MP3 board is because *some* MP3 owners may feel that their cars are much better than a "regular" Pro. If or one would love to be able to talk to some MP3 owners without feeling that I'm invading their territory. Just my opinion though.
    Protege owners of the world unite!
    hehehehehehe.

    Regards,

    Pro_fan

    P.S. Anybody else have trouble posting/navigating there for a minute or two?
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    I was just over on the Protege5 board chiding Paul for defecting when everything locked up on me -- finally I got my message posted, but it all slowed down again trying to come back over here.

    Roger dodger on Krotine. His name's Jason and we've already been in touch via e-mail.

    I too think Protege owners should unite! I hate having to keep going over there to grab our wayward vocus and drag him back over here, kicking and screaming, where he belongs.

    :)

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    When I go to the "msg #" window and enter 3586 and hit "go to," it takes me to 3518. What's up with that?

    Meade
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    Why does it sound like you are taunting me to Protege bash??? I could continue if you like, LOL...

    The funny thing is that I had a 1991 Ford Escort GT, which sat on a 323/Protege platform, powered by a Mazda 1.8L DOHC engine, driven by a Mazda transmission, sprung by Mazda suspension, and stopped by Mazda brakes. I never once had a single problem with that car and if they still offered that car on the marktet, I would definitely buy it again. What a terrific car...

    My Ranger, practically identical to your B2300 pickup, was and still is absolutely problem free. Not a single problem with anything!! That was wasted money on the extended warranty.

    So, as you can see, I have had a terrific experience with a first generation "Protege" much like you have had. I have had a terrific experience with a Ford Ranger/Mazda B-Series, unlike you had with yours. I am having less than stellar experience with my '99 Protege. Perhaps it's not me... perhaps it's just the car that has problems.
  • laurakatlaurakat Posts: 69
    I'll have to remember 'Emerald Mica' in case anyone else inquires about my color. I'm terrible at remembering official color names!

    Pro_fan - I'll be thinking up every excuse in the book to not let her drive it. I'm not sure I should let her sit in it! We got a quick bite to eat last night at Arby's, and she refills her diet coke and brings it with her in the car. I just looked at her and said "You will NOT be spilling any of that, will you???!!!" I'm much more anal about keeping a car clean than she is. You should see our van after she's had if for a couple of days! The things I put up with...LOL!
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    ... which did NOT contain Mazda components, and the head gasket blew at 60,000 miles and totaled his engine.

    So what? What's your point?

    My point is that your "problems," for the most part, were not faults of the car itself or its manufacture. They were caused by the DRIVER. And you admitted it ... then you blamed it on the car ... then you admitted it again ... etc., etc.

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    My wife will leave french fries under her seats (dozens of them, mind you) for MONTHS until they're so hard you can use them as railroad spikes. The worst thing was a drink ...

    She's been at home with the baby, taking a break from work, since mid-May. Being the nice hubby I am, I offered to fully detail her car for her back in June (actually, I was concerned about the stale french fry odor coming from it ... hee hee). When I opened her door, I was confronted with a McDonald's cup that had been sitting in her cupholder, WITH COKE STILL IN IT, for about a month. The Coke had seeped through the cup and bonded the cup to the cupholder. I had to sit there for a minute and figure out how to extricate this "artifact d'aperitif" from the car without spilling Coke all over the car. Eventually I had to bring out a wad of paper towels and soak up the remaining Coke sludge from the cup before I could continue. I then had to remove the cupholder from the car and soak it in the kitchen sink for the ENTIRE AFTERNOON before the remains of cup would dislodge themselves.

    Was it Tim Allen who quipped that guys are a funny breed? We can keep a car looking showroom new for years but can't keep the stains out of our underwear?

    :)

    Meade
  • bondobobbondobob Posts: 34
    A special site for MP3s? I dunno about that but how about information on the additional toys that the MP3 has? Point: other than a single sheet reminding the owner not to clean the Racing Hart wheels with a Brillo pad and three manuals on the stereo (1 on the stereo in English, 1 in French, a sub-woofer manual plus a laminated two sided quick reference guide to using the damn thing), there is nothing. How do you adjust the suspension for instance? Does doing Autocross void the warranty? Does a bottle of nitrous? Where's the aftermarket turbo kit?

    Zoom - Zoom and Boom - Boom

    Bob
  • laurakatlaurakat Posts: 69
    I like Tim Allen's humor. I can relate to it many times!

    Not only do I have to worry about my wife messing up my Pro, I've got two daughters (5 and 8) who aren't exactly neat freaks when it comes to clean cars. Plus, my 5-year-old has a tendency to get car sick! She's puked four times in the van. We keep a bucket in there at all times!

    Mike.
  • protegenicprotegenic Posts: 199
    My wife and daughter both get carsick all the time. Luckily, they can hold it down so no need for a bucket. Neither one of them likes riding in my ES since I usually take the most fun path I can find and the manual transmission makes it jerk a bit too much for their tastes.

    Meade...welcome to the new world!
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    My Protoge is in the shop as we speak to get the bumper cover repaired. Meanwhile, my insurance company stuck me with a rental car. I have been driving this Ford Contour 4 cylinder automatic for for about 15 minutes and I already miss my car badly. There is an amazing difference in build quality between these two cars. The Contour's door panels are squeeky, the steering wheel shakes at speeds above 50 mph, the suspension creaks, the transmission shutters, and the engine is LOUD and it only has 6000 miles on it.
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    Are you sure they didn't give you my car? LOL...
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I can not really relate about having a messy car, because mine gets a little nasty inside sometimes. The worst was when I took it to get the windows tinted. They had to clean out the underneath of the seats to get in all the seats to do the tinting. Well, they found 12 CDs, a box of cheese crackers (closed, but still), 2 empty soda bottles, about 10 sheets of wadded up paper, and 4 gum wrappers. I was so embarrassed I could have died! The day after that, I did a complete detailing job on the car from front to back. That will teach me to be messy. :)
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    I was just reading on another website about moving the Mercury brand away from Lincoln and moving it together with Mazda. The article was a speculation by an industry analyst, but judging from what I have been reading elsewhere, it may very well be true.

    Since Lincoln and Mercury are paired, Mercury is managed by Ford's Premier Auto Group (PAG) team. However, Mercury is not a member of the PAG. Mercury is holding Lincoln back in a time when competition is very stiff from Lexus, Mercedes, BMW, Cadillac, etc. The brightest move is to either dissolve the Mercury name or move it with Mazda.

    I have read several times before that the new Mazda cross-over vehicle due for 2004/5 will be shared with Mercury (replacing the Sable) and I have been recently reading that the new 626 will be shared with Mercury as well (rebodied of course). It would be quite interesting if this happens. Combined, Mazda and Mercury command a whole whopping 2.9% of the automotive market and both companies are bleeding cash. I don't see how they would help each other out, but I would not be surprised if Ford made this move.
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