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Mazda Protegé

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  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Welcome to the club! Glad you are enjoying your new ES.

    ashutoshsm: Wait for the new Acura Integra RSX. It has Protegé’s hood and grille styling and comes in the MP3 blue. Only problem is it’s a coupe.

    Check out http://www.newcardesign.com for Auto Show New York pics.

    fowler3
  • protegenicprotegenic Posts: 199
    You should look into an A4 1.8T. It might not be the fastest car, but for 24-25K, you get a whole bunch of safety and a really good driving car. I had one before the Protege and have to say it had far and away the best brakes of any car I have driven. You can probably get a good buy on one since they are changing the car for 2002, or go the used route. The same logic would apply. Either way, you will spend far less than a BMW.

    Good luck!
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Posts: 1,007
    ... would the regulars on a board be helpful and nice enough to recommend other good cars to a member!

    Thanks for the suggestions, all. I have be thinking about the Audi/WV (Jetta or Passat), Subaru Impreza (RX powerful but too bare bones inside), and used BMW. mm, 2002 models for many cars (including the Mitsu Lancer and the Pro ES) will be out soon, before I'm ready to buy, so I may add to this list soon)

    But it'll be a while before I let go my trusty 95 Pro DX! Gave it a wash yesterday, and as a result of the wax I gave it after the previous wash a couple of weeks ago, its looking amazing! The white color really ages well - I'm surprised I don't see more people buying white these days :-)

    -ashu
  • protegenicprotegenic Posts: 199
    You know how you see some movies and you want to mimick them when you walk out of the theatre (like Rocky when I was a kid)? Well, you have to go check out BMWfilms.com. They have some great short movies with some outrageous driving scenes. I recommend the one called "Star". It will really get you revved up for the drive home. I don't think my tach saw under 4K on the drive to lunch!

    I'm scheduled for the BMW Performance driving school in early July. I guess I'll have to watch these again before I go so I'll get the most out of the experience!
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Posts: 1,007
    I saw these a few days ago too - love them all!

    Star has the best driving stunts, but the Ang Lee directed one has the best story (if a 6 minute movie can have a story!) and ending! Pretty self-effacing role for Madonna. And Guy Ritchie seems to be an ok director!

    A must-watch for all car buffs! The have all formats (RealVideo, QT MOV, and Windows Media Destroyer) at different resolutions/connection speeds.

    Although the Pro ES is possibly the only sub-20K car in which you can (to a small extent) mimic the performance of the 330i's, M3's and 530i's used in these films - drive safely!

    -ashu
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    What is your price range and size needs? My 2 cents, a leftover 2001 Volkswagen Passat GLS V6 should sell in 6 months, with some room to discount, as the 2002's are a re-designed product. The Passat is based on the Audi A6 and quite a few bucks cheaper! My old boss has an 1999 Passat, we traveled too several meetings in it and I must say it was an awesome.

    Respectfully,
    Larry
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I love the Passats, but not the restyled ones that are "2001 1/2" models. I think they are so ugly. I like the 1999-2000 design. And the cars are so comfortable. I am going to upgrade to a mid-size V6 sedan next time around, in about 4-5 years. Of course, there will probably be alot more of them on the market by then. :)
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety just released their ratings on full size pickups. The Ford F-150 failed! Lets just say, quality is NOT job #1 at Ford Motor Company. The air bags deployed too late, and the passenger compartment collapsed, leaving little survival space for the driver. The best performer? The Toyota Tundra received the IIHS highest rating. Umm, the Japanese even design safer trucks than the big three.

    See ya later, I'm jumping in the Protege, opening all the windows/moon roof and hitting the road. It's 88 degrees at 2:30 pm and I'm going to the swimming pool. Too dang hot in Lancaster today.

    -Larry
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    The V-Dub Passat would make me very very happy, sitting in my drive way. Just a little too pricey for me right now. But I sure love that German panache! The 2001 Audi A-6, or 2000 BMW 740i, yea baby!!!

    If I was to move up to a V-6 mid-size car TODAY, I would purchase a 2001 Honda Accord LX V-6. the handling is fairly firm and sporty, however the real selling point for me, is the combo of price to value. GREAT re-sale, GREAT reliability, GOOD safety scores, priced in the $22,000+ range = VALUE to me.

    Paul and the rest of the gang, which V-6 mid-size would you purchase in the $20,000 to 28,000 range?

    -Larry
  • protegenicprotegenic Posts: 199
    I might disagree there. I remember in the 70's, when gas prices shot up, that small 4-cylinder cars became the norm. There were some pretty forgetable cars to say the least, but I am hoping that we will see more innovations in small engines that improve performance while delivering fuel economy. I like V6's too, but sometimes you have to question if the extra ooomph is worth the extra expense. I guess we'll see. But using Audi as an example, who would have thought you could get 200+ hp out of 1.8 liters and still have a engine that was usable in the real world?
  • protegenicprotegenic Posts: 199
    would probably be the Accord also. I know, there are zillions on the street, but I have to agree with Larry on this one, the total value of that car is just too good. If it were looks or driving alone, I would opt for the Passat.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Well Larry, it would have to come with a manual trans. Having been a big VW fan, I'd pick a Jetta or Passat(at the top of your range). Something about the road feel of European cars just has not been matched by the rest of the world. Protege has slowly crept up on these, but remains just a tad short.

    As a comparison, I tried to talk my brother-in-law into a Miata. He came home one day with a 2001 Z3. I gave him a little lashing and then went for a test drive. With the V-6 and the improvements from the early models, that car was too sweet for words. Of course, the key thing is that he had the cash to make that choice.

    :)
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    I'm gonna go to the pool NOW, all this talk of buying new cars really has me heated up! LOL!!! I got to teach my 5 year old how to swim this summer. The 2016 Olympics are right around the corner, hehe. God bless my very good friends at Mazda Town Hall.

    Zoom Zoom Zoom,
    Larry
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    My wife would probably never allow me to purchase a "hand shaker" tranny!!! However, after 17 years of marriage to me, she deserves certain accomdations, hehe. ;-)

    Soooo, if you were to purchase an auto V-6 mid-size family sedan, in the $20,000 to $28,000 range what would you need to test drive?

    Respectfully,
    Larry
  • with 20-28k budget

    for value -> 01 honda accord lx
    for style -> 01 lexus is300 base (27.5 TMV) :)
    for fun -> 01 vw jetta glx vr6 w/ sport suspension, 17 inch wheels

    -M
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    I'd have to include these two, although the Maxima can become quite pricey.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I would have to go for the Saturn L-300 actually. I know, surprise! An American car. :) I rented a Saturn L-200 when my beloved Protege was in the shop from its hit-and-run. :( I liked the car alot, but its handling was kinda boring. I read that the L-300 has sport suspension, so that might liven it up a little bit. Saturns also hold their value well, and their dent-resistant body panels help keep the car looking good, especially in a neighborhood like mine. :(
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    It really depends on the driver. If it were my wife...never mind, she's a driver also. If it were Joe Blow's wife, the Accord with it's track record would be a great car. In our house, we love manual transmissions and bumpy ride just means that the cautionary corner speed can be greatly exceeded. We aren't maniacs and with for kids, we have the obligatory mini-van, but we enjoy the drive on the side.

    My opinion(only my opinion):
    Vanilla: Accord, Camry, 626(can be fun with m/t, but extremely vanilla in looks).
    Better: Maxima, Altima, Galant, Acura TL, S40
    Exciting: Jag X-type, Passat, A4

    Obviosly, I left off a bunch but this is my take and prices vary greatly.

    :)
  • rnd2rnd2 Posts: 31
    i looked at the acord v-6 but the handeling was soft the car wanted to roll in the corners the power was good on the take off but if you are going 30 mph and you need to pass forget it ! i have a 98 honda civic coupe with auto trany this car handles great and the power is great from take off to top speed, i even pull a dirt bike trailer with 2 bikes on it ! i think honda went too far with high mpg.they gave up power new hondas are slow
  • glideslopeglideslope Posts: 37
    Did a little zooming with a 00 Miata today on the way to work . I was able to read the plate numbers for the duration of the event. I think it was a 5-speed . The dry pavement grip on my RE92's seems like racing slicks now that they are 75% gone at 12,000 miles. I thought I might break a suspension component today due to their tenaceous grip. However, they are very noisy now. Dangerous on wet stuff.

    Quite a little car this 00 ES of mine. Thanks Mazda. The wife wants to look at MPV's to replace the Quest. This could be the beginning of something?

    Mark.
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