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Mazda Protegé

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  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    The ES is only like $700 more compared to the LX 2.0 and the wheels alone are worth it IMO. Keyless is an option on the LX too, so you could go that way if you wanted to.

    I might try to get lucky and find a leftover 2000 ES model instead of the 2001s. I sat it that one and it was okay, but there was something about it I did not like. We shall see though.

    Nike: You are right.. The clear cornering lamps will not fit the 2001 because of the revised front end.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Not that it's tough to do, but I'm stumped. It seems like it could have to do with the throttle position sensor operation. If you can't get help from one dealer, try another.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Thanks for the advice, but I have tried several. Of course, the "thing" was not as frequent back at 10,000 miles (when I took it last) as it is now. Maybe I will be lucky and it will do the "thing" for the dealer.

    What is funny though, is that I took it to the dealer with 6500 miles on it for the tranny thing. I came off the highway exit off the Capital Beltway and turned the corner. The tranny did the "thing" 2 BLOCKS from the dealer! Well, I drove like 5-10 miles with the service guy with me and it never did it ONCE! Oh well.
  • leomortleomort Posts: 451
    Thank you for all the responses regarding the Protege.

    Glad to hear parts (engine and otherwise) are not that expensive ($90 for set of plug wires is cheap compared to my toyota), I doubted that Mazda would hold it resale value as well as Honda or Toyota but was hoping that since was a Japanese car that something would rub off for it. Yes, I undertand that at the high mileage I expect from my cars that trade in value is going to be none exsistant.

    I like the 2.0L engine. 130 hp and 135 ft-lb torgue. That's gotta be one peppy car!! Gas mileage is good too!! But there must be a mistake. The rear seat legroom was marked as 35.? inches. That's more rear leg room than some/most mid siz sedans. Perhaps a typo? Those figures would make the Protege very roomy for a compact. OK. this car sounds too good to be true, what's the catch? Better eninge than either Civic or Corolla, bigger interior, plus cheaper price than either? Plus good reliability. How come I don't hear more about the Protege? At least this can work to one's benefit. You can probably negotiate the priced down and still get good financing. This car is a sleeper and sounds very good.

    Leo
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    I don't know about dealers in Baltimore, but Congressional Mazda in Rockville has (had?) at least one '01 Protege. It's an ES/dark green/auto/Premium Package. They told me it'd be March before they get '01's too when I called a couple weeks ago. postnobills bought one from Rosenthal Mazda in Virginia.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    You guessed it right!

    It's a heck of a car, especially with the incentives Mazda is running right now. As far as why you don't hear about it much: Mazda does a great job building cars, they just don't know how to market them. Look at the Millenia. The magazines always say it's Mazda's best kept secret. Go figure!

    :)
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    I don't know about dealers in Baltimore, but Congressional Mazda in Rockville has (had?) at least one '01 Protege. It's an ES/dark green/auto/Premium Package. They told me it'd be March before they get '01's too when I called a couple weeks ago. postnobills bought one from Rosenthal Mazda in Virginia.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    As I found out the hard way, don't get a Protege if you want a car with high resale value. They don't hold their value well, only because their price when new is so much lower than on the competition. I would rather save the money when new though. That makes sense to me.

    I want to check out and drive a 2001 ES 2.0 before doing anything. I might probably just end up getting a 2000 ES if there isn't that much difference. They still haven't fixed the TWO things I wanted: A lighted ignition key bezel, and variable intermittent for the wipers. Oh well.
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    35" (actually 42.2"/35.4" front/rear) for rear legroom is not a typo. The '01 Civic sedan has 42.2"/36.0". OTOH the 626 has 43.6"/34.6" and the Corolla has 42.5"/33.2".
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I am going to College Park Mazda on Route 1 in Laurel on Friday afternoon to look for a 2001 Protege just to see if they have one. I drove past there a few weeks ago and didn't see any. They have limited space though, so they would probably have it on the back parking lot. I am anxious to drive one though to see how it differs from the 1.8 2000 ES model. If there isn't a big difference, I might just settle for the 2000 model at a much cheaper price.
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    As I said in an earlier post, if you go with the S Plan, it's a straight 1.5% under invoice for both model years. If you take the rebate, then you'll save $750 by going with the '00 ($1,500 rebate on the '00's vs $750 on the '01's). Plus another $350 since the '01 is more expensive. But if you go with the 0% financing for 48 months, the $750 difference in rebates is gone. Also, if you want the ABS/SAB but not the moonroof, the '01 gives you that choice.
  • The new protege 2.0 has 130hp vs 122hp on the ES. And the new protege looks a lot better in and out.
  • speedyptspeedypt Posts: 200
    The Mazda website lists a "ignition key illumination" as standard on all trim levels for the Protege. '01 Owners...is it really there?

    Pete
  • If you close or open a door it lights up ( green color ).
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    Not a big deal but it's on the '01's (at least on the ES).
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    2000 vs 2001: Think content!
    2001 gives you more including a better handling, more power, free loaner for warranty service, rear spoiler, fog lights, white guages(YUK!), LIGHTED IGNITION SWITCH, sticky tires & more.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Hey guys ... don't go to your Mazda dealer for plug wires! Get a good set from NAPA! I got a set for my '92 LX from NAPA for $45 -- much cheaper than the $75 my dealer wanted at the time! And they actually looked more substantial than the OEM wires I replaced them with.

    Paul buddy ... I've been reading your posts over the past week or so, and it appears that since you've fallen in "love" with the Bonneville, which occupies an entirely different class, you have done nothing but find fault with your Protege. Not too long ago (and not too many miles ago either -- maybe 5,000?) you were extolling the praises of your Protege. Go back into the Ford Focus topic only about a month or so if you've forgotten. Gee -- only two or three months ago, we were all trying to talk some sense into you because you were trying every way possible to get out of your '99 DX and into an '00 ES!

    If you're really having the problems that you claim to be having, I don't understand why fixing them is so difficult. First of all, you still have a warranty. And second, your state has a lemon law. Check it out -- if your dealer can't identify and fix your problem after the specified number of attempts, you may have a case.

    All cars have problems at some point. That's why there are warranties and service departments. My Protege is currently awaiting a new CD player because I -- yes, I -- made the mistake of putting a CD with a label on it into my CD player -- a practice that the owner's manual warned about, stating the CD might get stuck. Well, it did. But my service department is replacing it under warranty. Does this mean my car sucks? NO! I also had a door rattle. I took it in, calmly explained my problem, and my service department fixed it. Does THAT make my car a piece of crap? Not at all!

    Give your Protege some slack. You've driven it long enough to find some quirks. Has your transmission died on you? No. You should tell your service department that you want to make sure they've documented all of the times you've complained about the "jerk," so they'll know you complained if something ever does happen. With my '94 B2300 pickup (built by Ford -- really a piece of junk), my dealership kept taking stabs at an engine pinging problem until I traded it for the Protege at 114,000 miles. I only had the base 3 year-50,000 mile warranty on it, but I never paid a dime for all the work they did after my warranty expired. I'm just trying to prove that there ARE special circumstances sometime!

    Like I said several months ago, my 1992 LX automatic did the same thing you're describing. They said it was normal, and sure enough, the car was still doing it at 83,000 miles when I traded it in on another vehicle. I never had one transmission problem. Remember, your Protege is a tight little car, and any little transmission jerks will feel much more pronounced than they would in a big, wallowing Bonneville!

    You've still got a warranty. Relax and take the car in with a laundry list, and turn 'em loose on it.

    And keep the receipts.

    Meade
  • nikecarnikecar Posts: 460
    think with your wallet. Whatever you can afford. I would have loved a 01, but with the incentives we got with the 00 we got a slightly cheaper car that will have about the same warranty (ours expires in Dec03 while the 01's owners here will have theirs expire 1-2 months later.

    same diff. I would have loved a 16" tire, but you can get those afterwards.

    think what you can afford.
  • nikecarnikecar Posts: 460
    and considering the Protege's 35.4 vs the Civic's 36"

    the Civic adds that in since they've removed the center hump in the floor. so the Protege still has more space where it counts. right behind the front seats.

    The space in the Protege is what got us to buy the Pro over the Sentras. We liked the front seat area of the Sentra more, but the rear was just too terrible to overcome.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I like the fog lamps and spoiler of the 2001 as well as the lighted ignition cylinder. But, I like the audio system in the 2000 better, from the way it looks. I also like the front end a little better. I might just look for a 2000 ES with the fog lights and rear spoiler installed already. I have to get some things straight first before considering a car though, so by the time I am ready I might have a choice but a 2001. I am definitely going to join the EAA to take part in the S-Plan when purchasing next time.


    The address: http://www.eaa.org for those who are interested.

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