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  • I haven't had any hands-on experience with the 626, but I have heard some bad things about the automatic transmission attacthed to the 4-cyl engine models. I think they fixed the reliability issue with them for 1998, when it was redesigned, but I would go ahead and fork over the extra grand or two and buy the V6 model, for the added power, anyway.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    I've had a '98 4cy 626 and '99 6cyl. both manual trans(me no lika auto trans). The 4cyl prior to 2000 has poor suspension and the power leaves much to be desired. All 2000 models received the upgraded suspension and steering. As general rule, try to avoid the 4cyl auto. Besides, as a previous post states, get the extra power of the V-6. I'm not sure this is the right forum for your post, but be more specific about what you are looking for.

    :)
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    These folks are being very helpful here. You will also want to look into the discussion at this link: Mazda 626 - Part 2. There is lots of good information there.

    Good luck!

    Pat
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  • Does anyone know how much the invoice is for a Pro ES (auto w/ prem pkg.) in Canada, and then for how much I should ask? Where might I find such information myself?
  • Well it looks like we will be getting a 626... but I keep coming back to this board ;) - there sure is something about the Protege (and the Protege owners' enthusiam!!) Any one want to rescue me before it is too late!?
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    I'll try to "rescue" you even though I don't own a Protege. You can start by telling us why you chose the 626 over the Protege. Have you driven both? Is shoulder room important?
  • I am picking up my new 2001 Protege ES tomorrow. I am getting the Sand Mica with ES package and all options (cassette, 6 CD, alarm, automatic). I test drove last weekend and last night and it handles very much like its little brother (the Miata). This will be the 5th Mazda that I have owned and I swear by them. I have had two cars for many years and finally am getting rid of my old faithful 1991 Mazda 626....it has 124,000 miles and it was getting to cost more to maintain than it was worth. I have owned a 91 626 DX (auto), 92 Protege DX (5 speed), 93 Protege LX (5 speed), 96 626 ES (auto), and now 01 Protege ES (auto)....I was going to get 5 speed but the 2.0 engine is more than adaquate to quickly propel the Protege...when I asked sales manager at dealership about S-plan he indicated that Protege and Tribute were not covered under S-Plan. This was only ES they had in stock and no one had a white or silver to dealer trade. So I jumped at getting the Sand Mica ES....I got a very good deal considering it was the start of a new model year for Protege...

    I love the commerical on TV for the Protege....ZOOM ZOOM

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  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I couldn't pick up my new 2001 ES 2.0 today because we had bad weather today in Maryland. Ugh! :( I have to go tomorrow and sign the paperwork for the car. The dealer told me it's sitting on the showroom floor, and everyone's coming in and wants it. They can eat their hearts out! :)
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    Have a safe trip north, my friend. I hope all goes well with the new job.

    -Larry
  • I have nothing but good things to say about this car. I love how quiet it is when running. I did not some road noise when driving on the freeway but it was acceptable but did not hear any wind noise. Just got back from driving around Irving. Had lots of lookers and one had never seen one before and was impressed. I want to drive this puppy to its full potential but I know it has to be broken in first. Whats everyone's opinion about driving it on Highways faster than 75 MPH? It is safe with it this new or is there an ideal MPH I should be going? I read parts of the manual and it said not to go a long time with constant speed. I make sure to keep it under 4000 RPM's. One of the guys I work with is bringing his digital camera to work so I may have some pictures up soon (if it doesn't rain all day). CAN'T WAIT!
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    CONGRATS dude! I am so glad you finally came to your senses and got away from the BONEville. (You're not that old yet!)

    I had to stop by my Mazda dealer in the snow yesterday afternoon (our offices closed early due to the same weather you had) and have my new CD player installed. Word to the wise ... DON'T PUT ANY CD WITH A LABEL AFFIXED TO IT IN YOUR CD PLAYER. IT'LL NEVER COME OUT!!!

    Anyway, I got to see some new Proteges and pick up a brochure while I was there. Now, Paul, I'm gonna be like you were when you compared your '99 to our '00s a while back -- I absolutely detest the orange-on-white gauges in the '01. Other than that, nice, nice car!!! I was feeling a little jealous until I ran into my mechanic there (we've become friends over the past 10 years I've been a customer). He said I shouldn't be upset; the '99s and '00s are state-of-the-art cars and that Mazda's 1.8L DOHC 4-cylinder is one of the best engines Mazda has ever made. There. I feel better now. (Besides, with the baby on the way, like you Paul, I've gotta keep loving my Protege for a few years!!!)

    (BTW, did anyone notice that Mazda has "Daewoo'd" the front bumper of the '01 Protege where it meets the fenders? No gaps! Our old buddy jkobty oughta be beaming with pride! I just hope no one has the slightest front-end fender-bender in an '01 Protege, since the bumper now has no travel allowance at all -- looks like it'll dent the fenders in the slightest front-end collision!!! The insurance companies should be as happy as jkobty!!!)

    Meadeball
  • ed110ed110 Posts: 2
    oem tire size is 195/55-15. I want to replace tires with a size down.possibly with 195/60-15 or 185/65-15.These sizes are alot inexpensive than the 195/55-15's.Would these sizes fit this car?
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I didn't like the fact that the Bonneville that I am driving squeaks and rattles like hell at only 75K. That's not a good omen. Plus, there are steering and suspension problems with it too. Going tonight to get my car though, and CAN NOT WAIT!!! :) I am going to probably spend most of the weekend driving. My roommate (who came to the MAPP for those who were there) says, "It's only a car. Why are you so excited?" He doesn't know any better, because he drives a Neon. :) But yet, he wanted me to sell my Protege to him and trade his Neon. Uh-huh, just a car eh? :) Anyway...

    Meade, hope everything is going well with the new baby on its way. When is the baby due anyway, just to keep me up to speed?
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    The two sizes you mentioned has a diameter of about an inch larger than the 195/55R-15.
    Try Tire Rack.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Are you sure you want the 626?
    When we had our third child the Protege was just too small so we went to the 626. We had a loaded '98 Protege that was a joy to drive, but the back seat doesn't do well with two car seats and the boy in the middle. If you have two or less kids, my suggestion is the Protege. I've had 2 626's but I'm just not too hip on them. Maybe when I get into my 40's my taste will change.

    Comments about the S-plan:
    Sometimes an overlooked issue on the S-plan is that there is no barganing over the sales price. Also, the dealer is not allowed to charge for bogus fees like dealer prep and documentation.

    :)
  • sfratsfrat Posts: 205
    gamejunki: I wouldn't recommend going over 3k rpms, I think that 4k is just a bit too high. Best to be on the safe side I think, maybe others can comment. Also, with regards to speed, if you travel 75 miles per hour on the highway, that would also cause your car to be reving continuously at or very close too 4k rpm. Although I didn't see anything in the manual about a highway speed limit, you still have to watch the rpms. My salesperson told me not to drive above 55 during the break in period, which I've been observing except for the ocassional burst at 60. I would limit to driving your new car to strictly around town for the time being. If there is a back road you can take, non highway to your destination this weekend, do that. Otherwise you might want to find another car to take. I know its tough, but mistakes now could mean big and expensive problems in the future.

    Hope that helps you out.

    Steve
  • nikecarnikecar Posts: 460
    Meade no lie.. I can't feel abit jealous at the wave of 01's.. but we still have a great car in our 00 ES's.


    ed110 Tire Rack is a good site to see tires and reviews, but here are some other sites.

    the first one will give you various sizes that fit your car (or any). just enter the type of car and it will go up as large as your car can take. http://www.discounttiredirect.com


    Next one will give you a graphical overlay of the oem size and and aftermarket tire. Good to see what it will look like. http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html it also gives comparison sizes


    last one does the same as the above, but instead of showing the image or % speed off, it lets you input any speed and gives you the new actual speed you will get. http://pw1.netcom.com/~sgalaba/tiresize.htm#ustires

  • nikecarnikecar Posts: 460
    also Ed110.. why would you want to get a larger tire like that? they are more inexpensive but where you gain price and maybe some ride comfort, you will lose handling.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I have to drive my new car on the highway, because I work 30 miles from home. I am going to have to keep the speeds down too. No cruise control, engine speed under 4000 rpm, no hard stopping (unless it's an emergency), no rapid take-offs, and change the oil at 1000 miles too. What do you all think about the 1000-mile oil change?

    Also, the tachometer on the 2000 ES I drove for one day was at 3000 rpm at 70 mph, so I wouldn't chance going to 75 mph in it. It would probably be like 3500 rpm or so.

    626 vs. Protege: I sat in several 626s, and they have this small, shut-in feeling in the front seats. The recent review (July 2000 I think) in Consumer Reports even said that. I prefer the Protege's much airer interior. And actually, the sizes between the two aren't that much different either. I would trust the Protege's reliability more though.
  • Pygmalion:


    Check here for reference and links to a site that offers Canadian invoice. The information is not, free, however. It is impossible to get invoice prices in Canada without paying... I believe the site charges $15 for prices on up to six cars.


    http://cars.about.com/library/weekly/blnew_products.htm

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