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  • gandalf17gandalf17 Posts: 348
    I'm sooooo happy you have a good sense of humour. Yah, the good old days of the Civic and Honda...just don't care for them anymore. They look like a modified Ford Focus sedan now. Haven't driven the Si hatchback yet though. Will soon to see how much they've ruined the fun driving aspect of the older engine and suspension. The Civic sedan is more like the Corolla now.

    Yes, I suppose the USA would concentrate more on the summer games. To be frank, although Canadian's love sports and athletics, we really, truly only care about hockey. It defines and rallies our country like nothing else. Americans have wars. Canadians have hockey. It is our war... :)

    Nobody here would have really cared a damn had we not won any other medals other than the ice hockey. It really was all that mattered....

    P.S.- Yes, Labatt's Blue does taste like fermented moose urine. It's not real Canadian Beer....
  • gandalf17gandalf17 Posts: 348
    and I won't ask just how you "came" about those, er, stains on your doors. The Pro really isn't built for that type of, um, athleticism. Now, the 94 Honda Civic and those adjustable headrests.... :)
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    >>>>>Question: When you were test driving the Pro you bought, or just before taking delivery, did you pop the hood and take a look at the engine bay? Just wondering how many people do that these days.

    Frankly, I didn't. And the first time I poped the hood to check the was a surprise when it didn't look like the Honda engine bay I was use to. LOL! I was expecting orange; it's yellow. I couldn't find the dipstick. Mazda hides it on the left rear side of the engine. <<<<<<<

    From where I bought my ES, the saleman was explaining where everything was under the hood....I told him I don't need to know.
    His reply:
    We are supposed to INFORM every customer where the oil,tranny dipsticks are and where each fluid container is. THAT IS A REQUIREMENT.

    What I thought was that MNAO requires that.
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    check out the Tire selection eXcel sheet that I posted at
  • chicagoprochicagopro Posts: 1,009
    chikoo: Yes, my salesguy took me through a whole tour of my car upon delivery, as well...showed me how to access the spare, open the moonroof, etc. I just wanted to get going because I'd already been there for a jillion hours, but he had to follow procedure.

    Paul: If you could see my white ES right now covered in frozen gray slush, you would definitely reconsider purchasing white. NOT the color for northern climates! Very nice when clean, though :)
  • zoomzoom79zoomzoom79 Posts: 272
    Well, fxashun actually brought up a good point. The cars that we are buying now for $13,000 aren't going to be as good as the cars we could buy 10 years ago for $13,000 because of inflation. Think about it, a 93 Civic in good condition with low miles will still get an easy $5,000 on a dealer's lot. That's only 40% depreciation in 9 years?????

    From what I have read the new Civic Si is leaps and bounds ahead of the previous Si in suspension aspects. But the engine is 1.0 second slower to 60 than the previous 1.6L but it does have a more linear power band. I would definitely miss that rush of power that you used to have with the old Si though.

    As for the stains, if you think the stains "came" about during that kind of athletic event then you definitely don't know who my teammate is (hope he doesn't read this). And besides, if that kind of event were going to be held in a car it would be the Lexus with it's heated 8 way power seats :)

    chikoo: The dealer went over it briefly to show us where everything was but he had other customers so we told him we could figure the rest out by ourselves. Just recently, for the first time since the day I bought the car, I popped the hood to make sure the oil cap was put back on after an oil change and to make sure that it wasn't overfilled. To me everything seemed pretty easy to find and all labels were clear.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    Maltb probably isn't even awake yet. I already asked him a question. He hasn't been here today.
  • chicagoprochicagopro Posts: 1,009
    I've posted this elsewhere, but since elsewhere seems to be stuck in a time warp...

    Speedypt might not have internet access this week...on vacation, back on the 10th.

    I'm sure he appreciates everyone's birthday greetings in absentia, however.
  • gandalf17gandalf17 Posts: 348
    I love the rally style shifter set-up in the new Civic Si and also the Matrix. I used to do a little amateur rallying and i prefer this configuration. Haven't driven either the new Si or Matrix yet though. I'll let ya know what i think of them.

    Yes, i would miss that rush of the older Si engine once the rev band hits high enough and you get in that optimal area. Used to love that. With the WRX you get it at about 3,200rpm once the turbo starts spooling up. By 4,000 the skin on my face makes me look years younger with all that torque slamming my head back into the seat. :) I find the 2000 PRo with the 1.8L gets that extra umph like the old Si at around 4,200rpm all the way through till about 6,000rpm. The 2.0L is out of breath shortly after 4,500rpm or so.
  • gandalf17gandalf17 Posts: 348

    Yes, the Lexus and the 8 "position" adjustable and heated seats is definately the way to go there. As for events, that just might be the only other thing than hockey that we Canadians excel at..... Huge grin. :)
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    Yesterday on my way to school, I was in the right lane. A silver 99-00 PRO ES was behind me, a gold 99-00 LX in front and a 2002 on my left. You should have seen that grin :) :) :). Unfortunately, the drivers didn't look like they were REALLY appreciating their car (ie: not enthusiasts). Maybe it was all inside???


    PLEASE no more 93 Civic discussions. I don't wanna write all that's gone wrong with it again.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Funny, I thought my 1980 Saab 900 GLi was the only vehicle that made you remove the entire engine to replace the water pump! Be glad you had yours go during your warranty period -- mine went at 70,000 miles and the pump was a little over $400, and the labor to install it was about $400 as well.

    (By the way, that was in 1985. I'd love to see how much it would cost today -- but of course, my luck held as usual -- the very next year, they changed the engine design and one major change was the location of the water pump -- no more engine removals.)

  • gandalf17gandalf17 Posts: 348

    several thousand posts ago..when i was strictly an inactive participant, i think you mentioned you have a Cuban music CD that was burned by a few locals. My wife and i were in Cayo Coco for 2 weeks in early December. Loved the music while we were there, but have never managed to find a CD or tape that we enjoy. Any chance your offer to burn a copy still holds. I'd be willing to trade great jokes if that helps... :)

    Anyway, let me know and maybe we can arrange a deal. I'd burn you some music too but i don't have a CD writer...
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Sounds like it's time to turn on our "Off-Topic Police" searchlight, Batman!!!


  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    They had to take the whole engine out to replace the water pump??? Looks like an extended warranty will be in my future... :)
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    That was hilarious!!!! :) I love it!
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    Well, the Jetta I had did have a 10yr/100k powertrain warranty, so the water pump was not my main concern. My main concern was spending so much time in the shop while I was paying so much for the car. I guess I don't know for sure that they HAD to remove the engine to get to the water pump, but I watched them do it - for whatever reason. At least they let me watch...
  • gandalf17gandalf17 Posts: 348
    sound is essential for that link. I crack up every time listening to the sound effects for the Honda......ha, ha...LMFAS. :)
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Has to be that Civic's engine from that link!! Hahahahahaaha!
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