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Mazda Protegé

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  • protegenicprotegenic Posts: 199
    and another year wiser. I actually hit 39 yesterday. Best gifts were the dart board and the U2 Elevation DVD. Asked my wife to cook some Texas chicken fried steak as I am sick of going out to eat lately. Life was good. Today it is back to reality.

    Paul, my Millenia has a persistant rattle in the roof somewhere. We have been trying to get this fixed for months and seemed like we had, until recently anyways. Of course when I take the technician around, no rattle. Another example of Murphy's law. Hopefully we can take it by again soon when it is acting up and see if they can track it down.
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    It's true that the Mazdaspeed uses a Garret ball-bearing turbo. However, Callaway is the company that put together and tuned the package.


    As far as I am concerned (and anyone who follows the auto industry as insanely as I do), the most exciting name to be thrown around in this package is not Callaway, not Garret, not Tokico, not Racing Beat... it is Mazdaspeed! Mazdaspeed has been around since 1967 as the premier tuner of Mazda vehicles and was used by Mazda to enhance their very successful racing programs. A couple of years back, Mazdaspeed was absorbed into Mazda. What was Mazdaspeed's biggest accomplishment? The Le Mans winning 787B in 1991.


    Check out this link for a brief history of Mazdaspeed. It's in PDF, so you need Adobe's free Acrobat Reader software to read it (most computers have it).


    https://www.racingbeat.com/pdf/history.pdf

  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    I never said anything is wrong with Garrett. Almost all manufacturers don't make their own turbos. Mitsubishi is the only one I can think of that makes their own. From what I can remember, Mazda has always used IHI turbos.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    is pretty much a project of Mazda North Amerircan Ops and not Mazda Corporation Japan. That's why Callaway/Racing Beat are so heavily involved. While everything needs to be approved by Mazda Corp, engineering and supplier arrangement is done over here.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    That brings up a question. Are MS3s built in Japan as regular Proteges, shipped here, then modified by Racing Beat/Callaway?
  • shriqueshrique Posts: 338
    I wish they would get back into racing. I would love to see a rotary kick butter.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    butt kicker
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Wrong with kicking butter? LMAO!!!! :D
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    Who knows where the MS3's final assembly will be?
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    Bueller? Bueller?
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Well...where was the MP3 done?
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    Yeah, FINAL assembly. Are MS3s produced "as is" in Hiroshima, or are the turbos, etc. installed here in the states at Callaway?
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    My other question: Where was all the MP3 stuff installed at (ie. Racing Beat stuff, suspension, etc.)?
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Is pretty much done but gets a few mods here. The MP3 had the exhaust, audio and appearance stuff added here.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    "the car...Is pretty much done but gets a few mods here. The MP3 had the exhaust, audio and appearance stuff added here.

    Ok...but does that mean the place of FINAL assembly was Japan or USA? To me, I would still say Japan, but is that right?

    Also, does that mean that the MP3 has LESS Japanese content than the P5/Sedan?
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    The car is completed in Japan, so yes.

    The mods are most likely not Japanese so the content %ages are slightly different than the ES.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    Are the turbos going to be installed here also? At Callaway? The turbo, beefier clutch and stronger half-shafts are quite a bit more involved than the exhaust, audio, and appearance stuff. Basically, what I am asking is whether or not the mechanical stuff is installed at the factory, or here?
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    is that the turbo happens here while the drivetrain stuff happens over there. Not sure though.
  • hjnhjn Posts: 1
    I believe the 2002 Protege ES is the Mazda for me but am uncertain about the choice of automatic transmission. Is there a major difference in performance and reliability between the standard and sport automatic. Sorry if foolish question but I don't feel that I have yet received a good explanation.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Read this reveiew:

    http://www.protegetech.com/Ed_Review/2002midyear.html


    He talks about the "sport-matic" tranny. Hope that helps.

  • rbrooks3rbrooks3 Posts: 174
    I don't think there is any physical difference in the mechanical contents of either tranny. Even Mazda's website does not differentiate between the two for gearing figures. The sport is the way to go. One, you get all the 1/2 year updates with the car and you also get the addition of leaving it in "D" or clicking away yourself! The best of both worlds! I have a 5 spd ES and in its price range its the best. Let us know when you start zooming!
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    If there's no real difference, then get the sport shift. That way, it will act like a regular auto unless you do want to "shift" yourself. Just my $.02
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    you have a choice unless you find one built before or after Feb/March 2002. Built through Feb it has the standard auto. March and later is sport shift. In 2003 all autos(LX,DX) will be sport shift as Rich said.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    I think the issue was probably between choosing an '02 pre-refresh or an '02 refresh.
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Posts: 1,583
    totally non Protege related, but figure someone might be interested...

    #872 of 877 Colors... by ickes_mobile Jun 20, 2002 (08:51 pm)
    The MAZDA6 will be available in 10 colors: Grace Green, Deep Blue, Gun Metallic, Sparkling Silver, Dark Red Metallic, Black, Star Shine, Snow Flake Pearl, Classic Red, and Sunny Yellow.

    Source: Mazda USA website...
  • th83th83 Posts: 164
    but it isn't a Protege. I picked up my '02 Honda Accord on Tuesday and I'm loving it. It doesn't handle nearly as well as the Pro but it does ride better and is very comfortable. I'll continue to "lurk" around this topic but I'll mainly stick around the Accord topics.

    Later!

    Tom
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Did you trade your Protege for your Accord, or what? Just wondering.
  • chicagoprochicagopro Posts: 1,009
    ...even if it isn't a Protege :P

    :) :)
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