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Mazda Protegé



  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    >>>I would, however, like to know whether or not all Pros with autoT jerk going from 1st to second and noticeably shift from 2nd to 3rd?<<<<

    Yes. They do. Let's you have the same feeling as a manual shifter.
    But, if you want, simply add about 7 oz of Lubegard to your tranny fluid and see the difference.
    I can bet u will come back and thank me for the advice.
  • rbrooks3rbrooks3 Posts: 174
    You find the opposite true as well. lexus builds a very good product, but hpow many people are going to have bad things to say about their $60,000 purchase. Sort of makes you feel dumb. My neighbor is a Lexus salesman and while service does bend over backwards to be nice, they have their share fo problems too that NEVER get disussed. For example, their former top line coupe, the SC400 had a horrible design problem with the power steering system. They placed the resevoir directly over the mucho expensive alternator. The power steering system is a known failure part on this model and what happens is the price skyrockets when it leaks onto the alternator.

    It happens with alarming frequency on the SC400. Lexus denies any problem but the dealers usually help out the customer according to my neighbor. So, what happens on the CR? The car seems great because the dealer helps out. But, it does not actually represent problems that exist with the car.

    Of course these things pale in comparison to his great stories! Like a few months ago when he sold an IS300 to a woman who ended up asking him to keep the car on the lot for 3 months AFTER she bought it. the reason? He son, for whom she bought it, failed his lerner's permit test and she wanted to wait for him to pass before giving him the car! 32k and he just got his permit!
  • dsm6dsm6 Posts: 813
    Let me tell you a little story about a friend who owned a Dodge, and a friend who owned a Toyota. The Dodge friend said she'd never buy another. When asked why, she said because it was so unreliable - the rear view mirror fell off, a wind shield wiper broke, and the auto window switch for the passenger window had to be fixed.

    On the other hand, the Toyota friend said her car was just fantastic. As reliable and trouble free as the day is long. Best car she ever had owned. Only one thing ever went wrong - she had to have the engine rebuilt at 105,000 miles (!!).

    So one perceived her car as a piece of junk, the other as rock solid - bullet proof. Now, I don't know about you, but I'd much rather have rear view mirrors fall off, wipers break, and window switches go out, then have to rebuild an engine, but to hear it from them, it would sound the other way around. Why? Because one was a Dodge, the other a Toyota, me thinks - pre-concieved notions following along with each.

    Now, am I trying to imply that, in general, Dodges are more reliable than Toyotas - certainly not. It's difficult to generalize from two data points. The majority of the data, as you well know, suggests the opposite to be true. This example merely demonstrates the dangers of applying generalizations to the specific. They don't always carry through, though they may color our view.
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  • chicagoprochicagopro Posts: 1,009
    Meade suggested a quick poll, and unwittingly gave us the topic:

    What did you listen to on the way to work (or play) this morning on your wonderful stock or fully swapped-out Protege stereo?

    Meaded kicked us off with Spyro Gyra (actually saw them perform live about 20 years ago, kiddo!)

    I'll chime in with: Snoop Dogg (from a CD made for me by a co-worker).

    Anybody else?

    Let's stay on top, people!

  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    NPR...everyday. Call me boring but I got sick of all the other rating hungry talk show hosts.

    You mean that little slot takes CDs? Hot damn!
  • chicagoprochicagopro Posts: 1,009
    Didn't we tell you to stop sticking your ATM card in there?
  • protegenicprotegenic Posts: 199
    Mine usually cranks out U2 tunes. I just never seem to tire of their music.

    Has anyone looked into the XM radio. I would be interested in hearing others thoughts on this. I know I personally would pay $10/month to listen to better radio programming, especially when I can listen to the same stations no matter where I am!
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Posts: 1,583
    I would never imagine you being a snoop dogg listener yo!

    On my way to work I had U2's "All That You Can't Leave Behind" CD in my stereo. Good band I'd say...
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Posts: 1,583
    yeah the idea of cross-continent nonstop radio sounds great, but right now the initial equipment cost is keeping me away from it (almost $400 for a removable receiver, sheesh!).

    I'll wait til someone comes out with a standard size head unit (that also does CD/AM/FM) that costs less than $300, then we'll see...
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    funny story about that.

    A couple years ago, I started the MPV after church and some smoke comes pouring out of the radio. I quickly shut it off and pulled the fuse so we could get home. I pulled that radio out when I got home and proceeded to take it apart. I found about a dollar's worth of change stuffed into the radio and one just happened to land in the wrong spot. My poor daughter put all that money in and never got a single song out of it.

    Sure glad to have a warranty on that one.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    I just listen to the radio on my way to work. Rock, pop, whatever.

    Now if I do put a CD in, it's probably going to be Metallica, CCR, or the Stones...nice mix, eh?

    H said what I was thinking....Never figured Dale for a Snoop Dog fan!! I hope this doesn't want to make her bust a cap in my...uh...posterior? :)
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    How does Hello Kitty fit with Snoop Dog?
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    But I don't think I need ONE MORE DOGGONE MONTHLY PAYMENT in my life. Even if it's only 10 bucks. Geesh! (Well, plus the receiver's like $300 -- which I ain't got right now.)

    BTW Dale, I helped organize a Spyro Gyra concert right down here in Kanawha Plaza (outdoor amphitheatre next to an old canal in downtown Richmond) last summer. Saw 'em then. BLAAAAHHHH. But I've been listening to their music and buying their albums since 1982, O Young One.

    I'm a frequent U2 listener as well, and (as you're about to read) I have very diverse listening tastes. I'll listen to (and own) just about everything from classical to contemporary Christian to rock to jazz. But lately I've taken a turn toward country music. Don't ask why -- I kind of "discovered" it about a year ago. Now I've got almost 20 CDs from artists like Alan Jackson, Toby Keith (saw HIM in concert last fall -- GREAT CONCERT!!!), Dixie Chicks, Phil Vassar, Mark McGuinn, Rascal Flatts, John Michael Montgomery, and several others.

    I'll also go out on a limb for potential ridicule here (but I warn you, don't knock him if all you've heard is the early '80s "elevator music" stuff), I am a hardcore Dan Fogelberg fan.

    And I'm warning you -- don't knock him unless you can name one of the albums he's produced in the last 10 years WITHOUT going and looking it up on! I've been to two of his concerts, met him and talked with him. What a fantastic artist and person in general.

    Anyway, there you have it. On any given morning you'll hear nearly anything but rap and heavy metal emanating from my Protege.

  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    I didn't drive today, I took the public limo. I listened to a local morning show on my headphones. It was the KQRS morning show for all you Twin Citeans out there. Bobcat Goldthwait (sp?) was on the show interviewing Sybil Sheppard. Bobcat was complaining because he is a "junior varsity celebrity" and he slots himself somewhere in between Scott Baio (sp? again) and Pauly Shore. It was hilarious.

    XM radio? It's cool if you didn't have to put that stupid looking antenna on your car.
  • meinradmeinrad Posts: 820
    "Remember What Bye Means", one of my many musical compilations. A few selected tracks from this one are, True Faith - New Order, Solsbury Hill - Peter Gabriel, I Don't Want to Know - Fleetwood Mac, A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall - Edie Brickell. Along with 14 others it makes up a delightful little cd.

    ps. Dale and Snoop Dogg sittin' in a tree......
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    I bounce back and forth between "Bob & Sheri" and "Imus" on my mornign commute.
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Posts: 1,007
    I guess you missed the (quite) helpful 'Used" link at the top of this (and every other) web page.

    Your questions about 94 through 97 Proteges ...
    94 was the old (blocky) design with very limited interioir space, but rich on features and content. Motorised seatbelts but no airbags. 95 was a redesign year - the Protege (exterior) shape was changed, they got VERY roomy inside (more so than supposedly larger cars like the Honda Accord!) and the base engine (1.5l in the DX and LX) was made smaller, while the high end ES engine was improved. Both drive quite well and happily chug along with a full complement (that's 5 occupants, not 4).

    Try to look for a 95-97 LX or ES, if you like the goodies, or a DX if you want to save some moolah (I drive a 95 DX ;-) Avoid the 94 because of the old design, small interior and (potential) difficulty selling it down the line. Although the same logic would imply you should save money on buying one now! Reliability concerns are a non-issue with all of them (pre 95 as well as newer)!

    If the edmunds "Used" section doesn't have enough info for you, try the reviews of old cars at

    Good luck, you can't go wrong with (most) used Proteges! Knock on wood, mine has been flawless so far (2+ years)
  • gandalf17gandalf17 Posts: 348
    Limp Bizkit singing Rollin, Rollin' Rollin' on the drive in this morning. Then switched it over to Sarah Brightman becasue the wife thought I was driving too fast......
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Posts: 1,007
    I cant get over the fact that you need to put a butt-ugly antenna on the outside of your car. I have been tempted by the IP-bus ready Pioneer XM unit (only $199, and easy to install it oneself), though - because I have an IP-bus capable head unit and CD changer already in my car. However, there is some ambiguity over whether my (old) head unit can handle XM radio or not.

    Also, having the 6 CD changer and being very tolerant of many styles and genres of music implies that i am never at a loos for something to listen to, in my car.

    Not to mention that it may not be a smart investment because
    1. XM has competition, and no one knows which one will outlast the other and become the standard
    2. I may keep my car for less than one more year (!)
    3. I don't like the idea of paying money for broadcast radio, and not having a choice about what I get to listen to.
    4. Some of the channels are ad-free, some still have targetted advertising - and considering XM's privacy agreement, and the fact they can tell what station you listen to, this does not bode too well!
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