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Mazda Protegé



  • chicagoprochicagopro Posts: 1,009
    I resemble that remark!!!! :)

    True, those cup holders are USELESS. I usually have a bottle of water with me. Most half-litre bottles fly out on the turns, and most litre bottles won't fit. And don't tell me to flip the little flippy thing (I'm sure it has a technical name, like Modulating Container Adjuster)...still not very effective.

  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Nope nobody to sign...doh. I hope they leave a note or something.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Interesting article I just found on K&N filters for anybody that has/was looking for one. I was going to install one..but not too sure now:
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Yep, chalk up another reason I'm glad I've got a 2000. My cup holders WORK! Are the new ones still two different sizes, and fold away for even bigger stuff?

    Thanks for the house comments. It's probably smaller than it looks -- only 3 bedrooms and 1,900 square feet (I don't know what that is in centimeters, Dale). BUT -- they're three BIG bedrooms. I love builders who build "four-bedroom houses" these days and the third and fourth bedrooms can't even hold a full-size bed.

    Our master BR is the entire right-hand side of the upstairs in that photo -- we have a king bed in it, two dressers, a recliner, two nightstands, a small entertainment center and another chair -- and it still isn't crowded. 17x20, I think it is. And our walk-in closet covers that "wing" to the right and it's about 8x12. Even got a window in the closet! But what I like best is our 18x23 "great room," big enough for TWO sofas, TWO recliners, my huge home theatre setup, bookcases, a 55-gallon aquarium, and the usual assortment of end tables, floor lamps, etc. And the kitchen is 23 feet long with an island and a "breakfast nook" at one end surrounded by windows.

    We have dual-zone HVAC (i.e. two heat pumps, one for upstairs and one for downstairs), attached and detached storage sheds, 2-1/2 baths and the good ol' maintenance-free vinyl siding that I'm about to get washed for $80. Talk about a car wash Dale -- when we do this, we've GOT to keep our windows DOWN, LOL!!! Oh yeah -- tilt-in, thermal-pane windows too.

    Bought it in June 1999 for $119,950 -- and with the FHA first-time homebuyers program and low interest rates, we locked in at 6.75%. County just reassessed it at $136,000. The way the housing market is booming in our part of our county right now, we could probably get $145K or $150K for it. (It was built in June 1996 and sold for $102,500 new.) Taking into account the money we put down, we've got about $34,000 equity in it now. I've got a buddy who's still paying rent and the rent on his 2-bedroom, 2-bath apartment is only $75 less a month than our mortgage payment.

    We bought the house when it was only three years old, so now it's only six -- so no roof replacements or anything like that yet. We did have to fix one of the a/c compressors last summer to the tune of $400, but that's about it for the unexpected maintenance so far.

  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Read this Re: K&N filters and that article I posted a link too...
    sascuderi "K&N Air Filters, bolt-on power?" Jan 2, 2001 6:49pm
  • gandalf17gandalf17 Posts: 348
    hopefully they leave a note.... if not, you may want to leave one for them with a number they can call to re-route directly to you.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Cup holders are just 2 holes....same size. They really really suck. FWIW, you can fold a lid over the top of them though.

    Sounds like you got a great deal on the house....and you've got a big yard....big bonus there!
  • dsm6dsm6 Posts: 813
    According to auto manufacturers, cup holders rank number 1 amongst the concerns of American consumers - we always get softer suspensions and smaller brakes relative to the European market models, but by golly, don't skimp on those cup holders.

    I guess that's why Mazda ain't sellin' too good with us 'Mericns. We all want land yachts with 64 oz cup holders. Heck, that's why I bought the Pro. Now I find out the cup holder in it isn't even 22 oz safe. I want my money back. ;-)

    Maybe I'll just glue that door shut so I'm not tempted with their Siren song luring me to my doom.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    LOL!! Bring back those '76 Cadillac Eldorado's!! Land Yachts!
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I had both 1999 and 2001 models. I liked the cup holders in the 1999 better, because I could actually put a cup with a handle in there, and it would be held. I never had anything fall out of the holders on me. Also, the '99 holder was right there for my cell phone as well. I would have to leave the cover of the 2001 holder open all the time, but it was still pretty good.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    My mother used to have a 1976 Cadillac Coupe deVille when I was a kid. That was a CAR! I used to sit up on the amrest next to her and steer it sometimes in the mall parking lot. :) Her friend used to say, "I can come out and wave bye to you and watch the front of the car round the corner, then go into the house and make a pot of coffee, drink a cup, and come back out and watch the back end round the corner". :) She truly deserved a pilot's license for driving that thing. :)

    I was like 5 years old then, and used to call the back seat my "living room". :)
  • dsm6dsm6 Posts: 813
    Light truck sales over took car sales last year. I guess maybe the manufacturers are right, in a way. Evidently most Americans do put size and cruise mobile status over maneuverability. Granted, the light trucks of today aren't as bad as the land yachts of yesterday, but still - given the choice, people are choosing size over handling. Bigger is better?

    I guess we Pro owners are in the minority. Maybe the growing crop of young car enthusiasts getting into sport compacts can help turn that trend around. I hope so, so the manufacturers will put more money into designing more nimble, more capable, safer small cars - and maybe they will stop watering them down when they bring them to the US (please!).
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Posts: 1,583
    K&N is too reputable to let a few little rumors (especially that truck one, that one's been out for years) to discredit them. I would rather trust K&N's over 30 years of documented history of making filters for competition, offroad, and street use, than some Internet urban legends :-)

    I have one, sounds great, works great too!
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    The only reason I used that is b/c my friend still drives one around!! Whenever he's parking, I tell him, "initiate docking procedure," and I always make sure to tell him, "did you remember to anchor her down?"
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Yeah....I jumped on it too quick. Ah well...c'est la vie. Anyway, you should make a recording and play it at chat tonight...I wanna see what the difference is. BTW, do you notice any other gains?
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Posts: 1,583
    I don't have a recorder in my apt, but basically the engine sound is louder (for the better!).

    other gains? hmm, when I first changed it I noticed quicker throttle response (car got a bit jumpier when stepping on the pedal). Nowadays I don't notice it as much, probably because I take it for granted now ;-)

    As for MPGs (a lot of people ask about this), I'm gonna create an excel chart of my fueling records and upload it onto the Yahoo forum and you can decide for yourself if the MPG actually improved after I put the K&N in (I'll mark the date that I put in the filter on the chart).
  • zoomzoom79zoomzoom79 Posts: 272
    vocus: fxashun just bought his 96 Civic for $4500 which he plans to supercharge. He loves that car and I'm sure the guy in the VW forum wants more than $4500 for that SI.

    I had no problems with the cupholders in my Protege. I think the best cupholders were those in my 99 & 01 Accords though. One thing I do remember about VW and BMW is that their cupholders SUCK!!! Especially the 99 and older models.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    The Jetta my g/f has doesn't have ANY cup holders!! Oh does...when she's driving, it's ME!

    ZZ79, which MY Pro did you have again?
  • zoomzoom79zoomzoom79 Posts: 272
    lol pf... that's how it was when we were in fxashun's 93 Civic. It had the factory extended center console w/ CD player which took away the cupholders so whenever I was in the car I ended up holding 2 drinks. Not fun on a trip.

    My Protege was a 2001 ES.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Lol! Yeah, we don't take her car on trips anymore... :)

    And you liked the cup holders in the 01? They won't hold anything right! Can of pop will fall over. A regular size drink from Rotten Ronnie's scratches the front of the centre console. Arrgghh!! Ah well...just another excuse for me to ban drinks and food from my car :D
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