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Mazda Protegé



  • rbrooks3rbrooks3 Posts: 174
    I've done the same thing myself on every car I've owned that needed a windshield replaced. Those mobile companies are very convenient. But, now that I know what is correct and what's not, it's nothing more than a matter of personal choice on what to do the next time. Like I said, the risk may be small, but it's still good to know there is a risk.
  • rbrooks3rbrooks3 Posts: 174
    Hitting "set" when the system is on makes the system try to maintain the speed you just set. Since you're in neutral the car just keeps trying to accellerate which it can't becuase you are in netural.

    Maybe I should have just said this: On the 2002 Protege, the cruise control system does not recognize if the car is in neutral. Granted no one will engage the system in neutral on purpose, but the placem,ent of those buttons certainly makes it a risk to do it accidentally.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Thanks for the explanation. I hadn't thought of it that way! But still, who would be in neutral while moving? The owner's manual specifically states not to do that. The only time I'm in neutral is when I'm stopped, and hitting "set" then does nothing.

    I think this goes under the category of people trying to make their car do something it's not supposed to do. In the same theme, I can drive around all the time in first gear and burn up my transmission -- the car will do nothing to protect me from my own stupidity there. Also, there's no lock to ensure I don't suddenly pull hard on my parking brake while I'm on the highway -- no automatic lockout there. I'll bet there's also nothing to keep me from getting up to 25 in reverse and engaging my cruise control.

    Guys, there are some things that are just common sense. Not using the cruise control while you're in neutral is one of them -- just like not flooring the accelerator while you're in neutral. Getting NHTSA involved reminds me of that person who sued McDonalds when they spilled hot coffee on themselves.

    Sorry, that's my opinion. I await the tidal wave of responses that assuredly will come.

    Meade the Outspoken
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Anyone gettin' tired of my daily reminders yet?


  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I guess accidents can happen though. I don't drive a stick, so I would never be in neutral when moving anyway. I didn't think you did that in a stick shift car either, but I don't know since I don't know to drive one. :)
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I am trying to make 3 dishes for 2 different gatherings on the same Saturday! I am starting to feel like Betty Crocker or something. :)

    I am going to probably bake a cake tonight for a thing at work tomorrow. That's a whole different thing. I then have the MAPP, which I need to make the crab dip for (hopefully, I can find crab meat). Then I need to make chicken wings and a vegetable plate for another party I am attending on Saturday evening. I have no time for this stuff. It's a mess to be popular sometimes. :)

    All this while planning my trip to Chicago as well (leaving next Wednesday). Good God, what a mess! :)
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    Right on Meade!
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Well you are to be commended. Consider opening a catering business.

    I may not be busy preparing stuff in the kitchen, but let me show you just what I've done to prepare for MAPP III:

    Two months ago: $73.15 on my AmEx card for the shelter

    Yesterday: $67 at Costco for 40 hamburgers, four pounds of hot dogs, five pounds of potato salad, bottles of ketchup, mustard and relish and two bags of charcoal.

    Last night: Put the Mazda Motorsports banners in the trunk, along with the charcoal, two coolers and a plastic tub containing my grill utensils, can opener, bottle opener, tablecloth clips, grill lighter and several other odds & ends.

    Tonight: Putting the Edmunds T-shirts in the car and giving a final wash to both cars. (Of course, it's supposed to rain here tomorrow night. Oh well, just like MAPP I. Same exact forecast. We can only hope it turns out in the sunny manner MAPP I did!)

    Tomorrow: Picking up Dale at the airport. Picking up the three dozen Virginia ham biscuits I've ordered (at $9.95 a dozen). Going out to dinner with Dale!

    Saturday: ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM!!!!!!

    (I'm not trying to rub anything in by quoting prices. This is money well spent. Just showing Paul my dedication to this.)

    This is gonna be great, guys and gals!

  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Honestly, I really didn't expect anyone to be on my (highly opinionated) side!

  • dagpotterdagpotter Posts: 71
    Where is the MAPP? Is it in the DC area?
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    that on the AT, if you are crusing at 55 with gear in 'D', and you partner accidently hits the gear lever, it can knock it into the 'N' (neutral) position.

    Guess what happens to the engine?

    u got it....
    It redlines!!!

    so is this normal?
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Dang, you are making me hungry with all that food! :) I remember those Virginia ham biscuits from last year, they were pretty good.

    I hope the forecast does turn out like MAPP I did. It was beautiful up in the mountains. I saw about the rain in the weather, and thought instantly about when we went for MAPP I.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    It's at Shenandoah River State Park, just south of Front Royal. We'd love to have you. Please go over to the Yahoo group mazdaprotege and read the homepage greeting for all the details. (By the way, there's a pic from MAPP I on the homepage now -- it was held at the same location as this Saturday's MAPP III -- check out the zoomabilities!)

    Here's the link to the Yahoo group Matthew. If for some reason you can't get in, go to the second link listed and check out Wil's mirrored information.

    Hope you can make it!


    Yahoo group moderator & MAPP III coordinator

  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    But there IS a lockout so you can't shift from neutral into reverse.

    I remember a trip we were taking in my dad's 1972 Volvo -- my mom was in the passenger seat and she leaned down to get something off the floor in front of her, and her elbow hit the shifter -- putting the car in FIRST GEAR at 60 mph! Man, you shoulda heard that engine!

    (Didn't damage it, fortunately!)

  • rbrooks3rbrooks3 Posts: 174
    You said, "The only time I'm in neutral is when I'm stopped, and hitting "set" then does nothing."

    The problem is, if you had used the system and hit "resume" while at that light, it would go to redline.

    You are 100% correct that none of this should happen intentionally. I just think that due to the risk of hitting the buttons accidentally, the system should know it's in neutral.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    The cruise control won't operate on my car below 25 mph.

  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    I think you should try it today Meade. Some people here have tried it and all have said that the engine goes to redline.
  • dagpotterdagpotter Posts: 71
    I will really try, but I have little league all day. The good thing is I live less then an hour away near Manassas, VA.
  • meinradmeinrad Posts: 820
    "Tomorrow: Picking up Dale at the airport...."

    Make sure you lift with your legs!
  • shriqueshrique Posts: 338
    Wish I could go but it's just to far away and I don't have the free cash for a flight. Anyway I would want my car there if I could go anyway. Oh well.

    I'm in Minneapolis if anyone wondered.
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