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Mazda Protegé

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  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Somehow I just knew you were poised to make that response. Well, guess what? When I got back from MAPP I had to get the car inspected. Here in Virginia all your lights have to work -- all bulbs in all lights, that is -- or you get a pink "rejected" sticker in your windshield that only gives you 10 days to correct the problem. I told the inspector I had a bulb out in my rear light and asked him to let me know what kind of bulb it was so I could pop one in while I was there. He came back out a half-hour later and told me I must've been imagining things because all my bulbs were fine. Since then I've had the opportunity to check them myself and they all work fine, plus the car's been inspected yet again and it's passed.

    You guys must've been imagining things or maybe, since it was a stormy morning, there was something like a wet leaf on the lens itself. I've even had the opportunity to back up toward a nice, reflective tinted window here downtown and have a lookie myself, brake lights and all. All my lights are shining brightly.

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    I wuv you too.

    Meade
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    I was just kidding, hoping Dale would make a song for us. It's been a long time w/out one you know?

    And to keep this on topic, I am happy to report that after 20.000kms, the AVID Touring tires are still in good condition - it doesn't look like they lost any thread!

    Dinu
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    I finally had a chance to look at my front brake pads Tuesday afternoon. I was scared to look since I'm on the originals at 54,000 miles. What I saw astounded me -- I've got plenty of wear left on the doggone things!!!

    I wonder how much Mazda charges for the OEM replacements? Heck, I'll do 'em myself -- I've never owned a car that only needed maybe one replacement set of pads in its entire life!

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    What, are your tires made of yarn?

    Don't you mean they haven't lost any TREAD???

    :D

    Sorry, you just committed Edmunds Town Hall Stupid Similar Word Mistake No. 2 and I had to chastise you for it.

    (BTW, Edmunds Town Hall Stupid Similar Word Mistake No. 1 is people saying they have "disc breaks" or "break problems.")

    I'll be contacting Costco today to make sure they have a set of four BFG Touring T/A VR4s in 205/55/15. I need to have them installed by next Friday -- and get the car aligned -- so Zoomster (and his driver) feels safe and secure during next weekend's road trip to Pennsylvania!!!

    Meade
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    I'm frantically looking for a dictionary as I type :)

    I can't believe you have 50K+ miles on your original BRAKES. I had to take a BREAK and get my BRAKES done at 30K miles...

    Dinu
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    Did you consider looking at the Toyo Proxes TPT? They are available in your OEM size, but not your plus 0 size.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    If you guys think the tail-lamps are a pain, try changing a headlight on some Audi/VWs. You have to take the battery out to get at the headlights. Now THAT'S retarded. Also, IMO, I think the headlight design on the Protege is retarded. Why can't you just twist the old one out and twist a new one in? Why do you need to mess with those wire clips that are a pain for someone with big fat fingers?
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    I'm there with you on those clips (and I resemble that finger remark too). ;-)
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    What are you using the dictionary for? Surely you've heard of the word "venue" before???
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    There are several factors influencing my decision on which tire to buy:

    (1) Costco has superior service, stands behind what they sell, and their prices include everything -- mounting, balancing (lifetime of course), valve stems, joke tire disposal fees, etc.

    (2) Larry bought these tires a good -- what Larry -- 15K ago? And they're doing well. By comparison, my same-cost Dunlop SP Sport A2s look like racing slicks after 21,000 miles. I bought the Dunlops from TireRack, had to pay shipping, and then had to pay an installer the usual mounting, balancing, valve stem and joke tire disposal fee (can you pick up on the sarcasm there). And since I did not PURCHASE the tires from the installer I didn't get any of the usual goodies like free lifetime rotation, road hazard insurance, etc.

    (3) My Costco sells those BFGs and the whole shebang will cost almost exactly what I paid just for the inferior Dunlops themselves before installation. TireRack doesn't sell Toyo, I can't find the brand in Richmond anymore (bought a set once from Costco back in '94 and loved 'em -- too bad), and the best online price I found was more than $30 per tire higher than the BFGs and then I'd have to pay even more to have them mounted and balanced etc. I have other priorities in life and demands on my bucks right now than buying sporty, high-priced tires!

    (4) Time is of the essence. My fault, yes -- but I've got a several-hundred-mile trip to make next weekend, and I don't know what the weather's going to be like. My Dunlop SP Slick A2s are still OK on dry pavement (though loud as hell, wouldja believe it Dale) but absolutely suck petunias in the rain. I don't wanna try unknown interstates in bad weather with 'em. And definitely not DC traffic.

    (5) I actually think I will prefer the taller sidewall on these touring tires. At the middle-aged age of 38, where most of my zoomin' is done to and from work or out to shop with the occasional long highway trip thrown in (potentially a couple thousand miles later this summer), comfort is starting to slide into prime importance over like-on-rails cornering ability. Touring tires seem to have a good amount of comfort and much lower noise while retaining a good amount of handling. And these BFGs are still V-rated, meaning they might even handle better than the SP Slicks which are only H-rated yet have been a fine (albeit fast-wearing) match for my driving style.

    There, I think that about sums it up. I'm tired.

    ;-)

    Meade
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    I confuse them sometimes...

    Dinu
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    What, too scared to take me on here? Gotta post your little sarcastic remarks about "I knows a leaf when I sees a leaf" somewhere else, huh? Uh-uh! This thread is about the design of our Proteges and it belongs here!

    Now everyone, since Dale has taken it upon herself to challenge my statement asserting that my bulb is fine (like she'd know up there in Chicago), here's what I just said in response to her claiming I might have had a "loose contact" in my rear light assembly on the way to MAPP III A YEAR AGO, brought HERE where the thread is taking place:

    "But I think it's equally if not more mysterious that a 'loose contact' would magically heal itself and stay fine for a year after this so-called outage ... keeping in mind that according to y'all in the chase car, the light was completely out for the entire four hours and hundreds of miles that day ... and now it doesn't even flicker? Sound a little weird to you, O One Who Claims 20/20 Leaf Vision at 200 Yards Yet Who Can't See When Her Windows are Open at a Car Wash?"

    Too-shay, Ms. Branch!

    Meade
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    I raised a question, and that question was:

    "Why is Dunlop charging so little for such a great tire?"

    I think now not only you, but we all know the answer.

    An btw, I have @18,000 miles on my BFG...and they have no more and no less grip than when they were new and tread is still more than 3/4 left.

    So there.
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    In case you ever change your mind, here are 2 places that sell Toyos in your neck of the proverbial woods:

               TCI
               326 EAST 6TH STREET
               RICHMOND, VA 23224

               Colonial Tire
               1833 COMMERCE RD.
               RICHMOND, VA 23224

    Hope you like your BFGs.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Not that you'd know, but now you will ...

    Those two places are in areas that are, hmmm, how shall I word this in such a way as to not receive a Pat-O-Gram ... well, let's just say I wouldn't DARE send my wife through that part of town or go for a walk there myself in the middle of the day. I could also say that while I might get new tires there, I probably would have to clean out my glovebox and center console, remove the stereo and floormats, replace the alloys with steel rims and make sure I only have only enough gas in the tank to make it to the nearest gas station when I drop it off.

    In fact, my Protege would probably be the only non-'70s Lincoln or Caddy in the shop that day.

    Too bad for Toyo. They obviously don't know Richmond either.

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    How is talking about the design of the lights on the rear of the Protege NOT on-topic? If you DO honestly feel that the turn the conversation took to my taillight during that trip took it off-topic, then please take note that it was YOU who did so by bringing it up, and you brought it up HERE! The topic of this thread of discussion is Protege taillights and how they're designed. Yes, there was a question (well, from you and my wife) about the appearance of one of my taillights last Spring. The issue was never duplicated and has not been noted during two state safety inspections since. So either the ghost of Thomas Edison was fooling around with us, you guys were smoking something illegal back there in Tam's P5, or (the most likely answer) something was either smudged on the lens or obscuring that one bulb in some other way. But I honestly think that if there was enough of a short THEN to leave a bulb completely OFF (you never said it ever flickered or came back on and off again) for hundreds of miles and hours on end, then I would've experienced it ONE MORE TIME in the 12 months since you claim to have seen it.

    'Nuff said.

    Discs vs. drums anyone?

    Meade
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    There is always a Colony Tire in Colonial Heights, and no less than 5 dealers in Ashland. Anyway, let us know how you like the BFGs.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    You guys got a BFG problem???

    Meade
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    I just tend to encourage others to try what I have found that I really like, and I really like the Toyo tires I have purchased in the past. So much so that I already know that I will be putting Toyos on my P5 and my Miata when the time comes.

    I understand you not wanting to spend the extra money. I tend to go overboard sometimes in my search for the perfect tire or whatever it is I am trying to find. I am perhaps too willing to spend an extra 45% to get a 5% improvement. I hope you like your BFGs. I'm sure you will let us know.
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    the reason why I like BFG V4 is COMFORT.
    while they still retain quite good handling, they do not make a harsh ride over road cracks, not to mention they are extremely quiet when cruising at high speeds.
    And did I mention that they are M+S rated?
    Worked very well in the snow this winter. Never spun in the snow, even on inclines, unless I just stomped on the pedal like everyday.

    It is just the preferences. Certainly the cost did make the final say against the Yokohama Avid V4 which would have costed me ~$200 more.
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    Sounds like a great all-around tire, but then so does the Proxes TPT. I'll let everyone know what I think when I get them on the P5 -- except for snow traction anyway. I can't give a real world review of them since I haven't tried them yet, but on paper they look pretty good.
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    but when I went to find them, the cost difference and ease of installation just made me shirk away.
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    You don't install them yourself do you? ;-)
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    the nearest Tirerack installer was 12 miles from my place. The nearest Toyo dealer was 18 miles from my place, who btw did not have my tire size.

    The BFG V4 were available at BJ's warehouse that is only 3/4 mile from my place.

    Hence the ease of installation.
  • alternatoralternator Posts: 567
    Right here at the Edmunds web site are several reviews of the 2003 Toyota Corolla that provide more than a few reasons for buying Proteges instead of Corollas :

    http://www.edmunds.com/new/2003/toyota/corolla/100074066/roadtest- article.html?articleId=96986&editorialpage=page003
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    "At this point I'm just thinking out aloud thinking I should trade for something quieter so I don't have to turn the stereo up at highway speeds but I don't have spare cash to take a loss buying and selling."

    If I got a car that rides as smooth as I would like I would fall asleep before I got a city block. Firm suspension and seats help to keep me awake, along with some of the Triad's rough roads. Oldsters are always sleepy. When they were servicing my Pro I didn't hear my name called over the PA, I was asleep in the waiting room.

    One year left on warrenty, I'm getting anxious to trade.

    Maybe Mazda will use the same suspension on the Mazda3s they used on the 6.

    meinrad, thanks for the greeting. No, I am not working these days. Wish things would pick up.

    I guess the first thing buyers should ask when looking at a new car is how easy can one change the taillamp bulbs? Glad to hear that dinu01 isn't wearing a surgical mask when he types. ;)

    Meadball seems in top form as long as he stays away from the Churchhill area when buying tires. The church on that hill is where Patric Henry said, "Give me liberty or give me death, but I will settle for a set of Toyos." LOL!

    fowler3
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Church Hill is in the throes of a renaissance. Younger folks are buying up the old houses and renovating them (some of which are antebellum) and the area's starting to rebound very nicely. No, it's the area south of "The Rivah" and east of downtown that's still the kind of place you wouldn't want to hang around at night and, if you must travel through there in daylight, you keep your windows up, your doors locked, and your eyes on the road. I'm sure every town has an area like this ... very blue-collar industrial with cracker-box houses, housing projects and "special police precincts." I prefer not to revert to survivalist tactics for a set of tires, no matter how good they are!

    Meade
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,327
    I notice they don't list the Protege as a "similar" car at the bottom of the Corolla driver's comments page.
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    ROTFLMAO! You've made my Friday.
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