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Mazda Protegé

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  • demmicondemmicon Posts: 2
    looking for a general idea of how protege drivers feel about them. i am looking at a '92 with 77k miles, seems to be in good shape and reasonably priced, but i would like to know this cars' reputation for reliability, average life span, problem areas etc... so if anyone has owned an older protege and can let me know what to expect, whether or not it's worth buying i would appreciate it... thanx
  • cwp2cwp2 Posts: 19
    Just bought a 96 LX for my daughter who turns 16 in a couple of weeks. This will be our 4th Mazda. This seems to be a good car, but I don't know much about the Protege. It has remote locks, security system, spoiler, CD, and gold emblems. Do the gold emblems mean it is a particular package? Also, the side body moulding is not black, it matches the gold paint. Does anyone know about this type of package. All the other Pro's I've seen didn't have all this stuff.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Sounds like you have an LX model. They come with power everything, CD, and body color moldings. The security system was probably added later, and the gold emblems are an aftermarket/dealer installed package.

    One of my co-workers has a black 97 Protege with the gold emblems on it. She likes it alot, she's had it for about 3 months now and it's given no problems.
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    They are a form of real gold. When you wax the car do NOT get wax on the gold! Wax turns the gold black and there is no way to clean it. This is probably why we see fewer cars and SUVs with the option.

    fowler3
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    That, and the fact that they look hideous...
  • cwp2cwp2 Posts: 19
    Thanks for the info. We will be picking it up on Monday after it gets detailed, then its off for tinting. It should look pretty good by Tuesday.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    That took me awhile, but I finally read all the posts to catch up. Sorry for my absence, but I've been busy as of late and can't post during the days anymore :(

    Anyway, my Pro just hit 48000 km (30000 miles) and is doing great. I changed the spark plugs (btw, thanks for the help again Hank!) and the engine feels much better. I couldn't believe how corroded the old plugs looked.

    Great to see so many "regulars" still kicking around, even though so have moved onto 6's (which I'm thinking about... :D).

    Anyway, just wanted to say "hi" to everybody, including some newcomers!
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Mixed metals don't look good on a car, it's even questionable as jewelry on people, though many do wear the combination.

    fowler3
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Posts: 1,583
    you're still alive and kicking Mike!
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Me and ol' Zoomster drove 589 miles between Friday and Sunday! Friday alone was 391 miles! Zoomster (er, an '00 ES for those new to this forum) really enjoyed the MAJOR twisties -- some were hairpin switchbacks with "Maximum Safe Speed 10 MPH" signs! I did notice a little pinging on hard -- and I mean hard -- acceleration as I climbed some steep grades and passed less zoomworthy vehicles. At one point I had to come to a full stop right in the middle of an uphill switchback to get around a Ford F-250 and trailer combo whose radiator had succumbed to the stress.

    Spent the weekend at Cass Scenic Railroad State Park, where we (my dad, my two brothers and I) rode the restored logging railroad line to the summit of 4,800-foot Bald Knob, the second-highest peak in West Virginia. Our "little engine that could" was a pair of gear-driven Shay locomotives, the first of which was built in 1901. Really, really cool. (And it was cool up on Bald Knob, in the sixties at 2 p.m. on a summer afternoon when it was 92 back in Richmond!)

    Sunday we drove the five miles from Cass to the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in Green Bank, WV for a tour. It was cool to tour this place again since I was 12 (er, 26 years ago) the last time I did it.

    Sunday afternoon, Zoomster and I turned east on U.S. 250 and sang, "Take me home, country roads!" (Apologies to the late Mr. Denver.)

    All in all a great weekend!

    Now, about that slight pinging -- I'm not going to worry about it until after I have my 60,000-mile service done (I'm at 59,940 miles now). If it's still there after new plugs and wires and all the other stuff, then I'll pursue it if it gets worse. After what I've just read, I'm awfully glad I've got that 100,000-mile warranty with a $50 deductible!

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Where is everybody today? Too nice a day for zooming to be cooped up at the 'puter?

    Meade
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    a lot of traffic to the M6 and M3 boards...

    I definitely post in those discussions more than here.

    The PRO is doing great BTW :)

    Dinu
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    But most of us still OWN Proteges! I'm gonna be true to the car I own!

    Yes, my next car's gonna be a 3 hatch/wagon, and I lurk over there (there's a great post by a Canadian about features in the last few days over there), but I'm still zooming happily in my Protege, which by the way turned the big 60K this morning, and I plan to zoom with ear-to-ear grins -- and post here with the biggest grins that Pat will allow -- for at least a couple more years!

    That's not a threat Pat!

    Meade
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    Did you see the big 60.000 this morning?

    Dinu
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Had it on Trip A! Suddenly remembered to look, and only got to see 60,002!!! ARGGHHHH!!!

    Meade
  • sfratsfrat Posts: 205
    Why in the world has mazda got their site down for scheduled maintenance in the middle of the day!?

    BTW, anyone know a wire I can tap into that gets continuous batter power behind the dash. I'm putting in a hands free kit and it requires an always on battery source. Otherwise I think I'm going to have to run something to one of the wires coming directly off the battery. Mazda would not fax me a wiring diagram and said instead I had to buy one for $50. For that, I could have paid someone to do this.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    I ran a lead straight to the battery (fused, of course) and found a grommet to run it through on the firewall just above the passenger's left foot, about two inches above where the carpet ends. I will say it was a real chore getting through there; Mazda didn't leave us aftermarket afficianados much room to get our arms in there on either side! If you go this route, be prepared for some skinned knuckles!

    Meade
  • nitroladynitrolady Posts: 14
    I am currently in the throes of car-buying decision-making. One of the cars I am considering is the 03 Protege LX (gave my brother my 93 Protege DX a few years ago which is still running great!). I want ABS on my LX, and I asked the sales mgr. at the dealership if it comes with 4-wheel disc brakes when ABS is added (rather than the standard front disc/rear drum setup). He checked somewhere (put me on hold), came back and said w/ABS, there are still rear drum brakes and not discs.

    I know the ES has 4-wheel discs as standard equipment, but I do prefer the LX.

    Having drum brakes in the back sounds strange to me since other cars I have looked into go to 4-wheel disc brakes when you get ABS. Anybody have any info on this? If you have an LX w/ABS and discs in front/drums in back, does the car handle well when ABS kicks in (in snow, wet, etc)?

    Thanks,
    Nitrolady
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    Can either of you guys help nitrolady out? Disks? Drums?
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    I have an '01 LX 2.0L w/ ABS that has front disks and rear drums. I'm up in Canada and my ABS has gone off lots in the winter. Brakes work great and still handles well. If you like the LX, I don't think it should be an issue...at least in my opinion.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    According to Mazda's own website, 4-wheel discs are only on the ES model.

    I found a difference between the rear drum brakes on my 99 Protege DX and the 4-wheel discs on the 01 ES I had, but mostly pedal feel.
  • demmicondemmicon Posts: 2
    it's cool... i wasn't really looking for any help from some more expirienced people at all... i just took the time to register and post a question 'cause i was bored, what with having so much free time trying to find a new car and all.
    yeah, thanx guys...
  • chicagoprochicagopro Posts: 1,009
    E-mail me.
  • sfratsfrat Posts: 205
    for the tip on the firewall passthrough. The guy at Mazda South (Mazdastuff.com) emailed me a copy of the wiring diagram after I called to see how much the shop manual was. Super nice of him. If anyone else needs it or wants it (2001) shoot me an email. They will definately get my business in the future when I order those kenwood speakers....

    Meade, if I may ask another question, want guage wire did you use to power the radio? I'm concerned that since it is in the engine bay, I need something fairly substantial. I guess what a stereo shop would use to wire a sub would be ok, no?

    Steve
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    No prob, dude. And I would like a copy of that wiring diagram, if you'd be so kind! I think you know my e-mail address or where to find it; if not, just shoot me another message here and I'll get it to you.

    I used the wiring that came with the transceiver. It's good and thick red-and-black power cable; if I had to guess I'd say it was 10 gauge or so. Radio Snack sells a 25-foot spool of it for not mucho dinero. It had to be capable of powering a 50-watt output transmitter that draws about 12 amps when transmitting. (Another reason I don't like using the fuse block for these things.)

    I'd think a car stereo shop could tell you what you need.

    Meade
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    ...have some assistance for demmicon Jul 19, 2003 5:13pm?

    Demmicon, we do try to help, but it's likely that the folks who might have suggestions haven't been by to see your question since you posted it. And I think that the folks who have seen your question are not the right folks, so they haven't had anything to offer.

    That's really all there is to it - please don't take it personally.

    It's always worth asking again, so let's see if anyone can help you this time.

    :-)
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    Dn;t have experience with older Proteges, but as far as reliability they are as good as any Honda or Toyota w.out a doubt. mdaffron had 2 PROs from that generation and was veery happy w/them.

    Good luck!

    Dinu
  • oskwioskwi Posts: 88
    I have a 2003 Mazda Protege sitting in my garage as we speak...the ES has four wheel discs while the LS has only front...I drove both before deciding on the ES version. I'm the one who actually pointed out the brake difference to the salesperson. However, both versions I test drove did have the ABS. I would assume both handle competently. My decision was primarily because of the color...ES was white while I could only get a loaded LS in green, and secondarily, because of the fog lamp and six speaker package that came with the ES.
  • nitroladynitrolady Posts: 14
    Thanks for your quick responses. My reason for wanting the LS is also because of color (want beige interior since I have a beige dog), and charcoal (ES interior) wouldn't work at all, unless I wrapped the dog up in saran wrap prior to letting her in the car ....

    After all this, it turns out that the dealer can't locate the car I want (LS, beige interior, any color except black or white, ABS package, 5 speed). So I'm off to the Hyundai dealer for an Elantra (no flames, please-- I do love the Protege!) since that was my second choice.

    Thanks again for your input.
  • nitroladynitrolady Posts: 14
    Didn't see your first post since I'm new to the board, but I did have a 93 Protege DX which I gave to my brother. He still has it and it has given him no problems whatsoever, which is amazing considering the fact that he lives in Phoenix, and the heat is very hard on cars. I gave it to him when it had about 70K on it and I think it now has 90K or so. I gave it to him about 3 years ago.

    The only thing I can think of is that he is noticing a rhythmic and repetitive clunking (or clicking?) sound when he turns hard to the left, and a friend of his who listened to the sound told him that the 'half shafts' probably need replacing and this is common on FWD vehicles of this car's age/mileage (I personally have never heard of half shafts).

    The car was wonderful to me when I had it, never had any breakdowns, failures or anything, though I did make sure to change the oil pretty religiously at 3k, and did tune-ups, and other scheduled maintenance as recommended. I also had a good mechanic who did the timing belt at 60K or so as well as resurfacing rotors, new pads, new hoses & belts, flushed radiator, tune up, etc., etc. Was a bit expensive for all that (I think $700 or so), but as I said, the car never failed me.

    The car is still on it's original starter & alternator.

    Hope this helps.

    Nitrolady
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