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Mazda Protegé

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  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Larry, I don't see how you COULDN'T see a difference in performance. Maybe that big butt of yours is just a little too cushy. (HEY HEY, don't send me a nastygram -- we're good friends!!!!)

    :D

    I just had the whole shebang done -- oil change, brake fluid change, coolant flush, new plugs, new wires, new air filter, etc., etc. -- and Zoomster is very noticeably smoother and faster. I can already tell this tank of gas is going to get me about 2-3 mpg more than the last one.

    I find it interesting that ANYONE would replace plug wires under warranty! I don't feel 45K is premature at all -- you done good, lovetrain!

    Heh heh on what you paid -- I bought 'em myself and installed them for less than half that, and it took about five minutes. But the record time was the air filter -- anyone who PAYS to have this thing changed is nuts! Snap, snap, pull old one, plop in new one, snap, snap! I believe I completed the job -- which included a quick wipe of the compartment with a damp rag -- in about 40 seconds. Definitely under a minute.

    And to think they'll charge you a quarter-hour's labor (what's that these days, 20 bucks?) for that 40 seconds of intense work.

    Four and a half hours from a five-hour zoom to Charlotte (can you tell I'm excited?),

    Meade
  • I have a 2003 Protege LX. Hit a nail, and lost a tire. I don't like the doughnut spare, and since RE92s are expensive, and I think I'm going to replace with 2 Sumitomo tires (also 195/55/15s). Here's my question: Is the 2003 Protege LX wheel well in the trunk big enough to fit a full-size spare?
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Did you ever think to look at the spare? It's probably too narrow.

    You lost the tire to a nail? How far did you drive with it flat?

    I picked up a nail in a tire in January, have no idea how long it was in there. Noticed it was getting flat and pumped it up, then I noticed the nail. Got it repaired the next day, tire place was closed on Sunday.

    fowler3
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    Take off one of your wheels and see if it will fit in the trunk tire well.
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Posts: 1,583
    answer is NO
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    I owned a Suzuki Alto(made in Japan) from 1987 to 1997.
    No burned bulbs for all those years.
    Prior to that I owned a Morris Minor offshoot, that had to have bulbs replaced every six months or so.
  • civiletticiviletti Posts: 86
    As an unbiased observsor ['99 pro es], I agree completely with your conclusion. I just can't understand why every1 is always driving so slowly!

    ZoomZoom
  • mcap56mcap56 Posts: 48
    I was very impressed with the protege and wanted to get one but I found it was almost impossible to get one with both ABS and a 5 spd. This was January. Was this solely the result of the closeout or has it always been a little like this?
    I remember reading somewhere that it was difficult to get one with ABS. Also, the dealerships did not quite seem as professional as some of the Honda dealerships I frequented. Is this usually the case?

    Went with the Civic 04 Ex. Not as comfortable and doesn't handle as well. However it does feel rock solid, gets great mileage, has a smooth clutch and is a great car for my purposes (mostly commuting, not so much driving for pleasure).

    Still......the pro would have been a nice choice. I actually like the styling more than the 3. I don't know why all of the car makers are in such a rush to cut off the drivers vision! Protege had great visibility.

    _marc
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,327
    Only in the '99-'00 model years, and only if you removed the stand-offs they welded onto the floor of the spare-wheel well to hold up the temporary spare at the right height. This is probably a modification to the Japan-market version which could be equipped with AWD (thus requiring a full-size spare). However, Proteges for NA are FWD only, so they spec'd them with the small temp spares and welded-in the brackets.

    One of the changes for the '01 and later years was an increase of the fuel tank's capacity. They did this mainly by making the spare tire well shallower, so there's no way a full-size spare will fit into it. Sorry.
  • carguy58carguy58 Posts: 2,303
    Yeah it is hard to find ABS on the PRO. Also with Honda they have alot more customers than Mazda does so maybe thats probably why the dealership experience varied. Still, there are good dealers and bad dealers all around. Thats one thing about Mazda thats bad: crazy option packages.
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  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    I always thought the 1.8 liter engine, coupled with the lower gross weight of the 1999 - 2000 Protege ES prolly had the best low speed torque, (ZOOM ZOOM Factor) at that time! They ES didn't cost a lot (got both mine loaded for $15,250ish)and talk about shoulder, hip and head room in a small sedan.....butter!!!

    -Larry
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    You say you needed butter to get into the car?

    Meade
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    Anyone else know if there are any benefits to using a K&N Air Filter over the stock one? The thiev...I mean employees at Mazda tried to put a $30 air filter in my Pro last week when I got an oil change. After I refused the air filter, suddenly my 15 minute oil change took over an hour as they were "waiting for a part."

    anyway, any word on the K&N filter for the Pro?

    Also, kinda off the mark but are there any reliable, warrantied turbos or superchargers for the Pro? My engine's lack of punch is driving me nuts suddenly.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    Thanks for the info.
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Chikoo: I had a 1951 Morris Minor when I was in the USAF in Europe, long time ago. I don't recall replacing bulbs. What English cars in the 50's required was complete engine rebuild at 50,000 miles. I am glad they "don't make them like they use to." The engine was 51hp. Tires didn't last long either, but they were cheap -- like $25 to $35 each. I use to buy retreads for $20 plus the tubes.

    fowler3
  • speedyptspeedypt Posts: 200
    blueguydotcom,

    Main advantage is the reusability/economy of the filter. I have one since my 2000 ES was new and the power claims and gains are minimal. If you are doing it for the HP, get a AEM short ram for ~ 189.00, you'll pick up about 5 hp, the K&N filter alone is roughly 1-2 HP.

    Regards,

    Pete
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Chikoo, please check your email - thanks.
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    It seems I missed some good posts since we're missing a few :)

    BTW, Hi Pat! :)

    Dinu
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Where is everybody?

    Hi Pat_HOST!

    fowler3
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Hi to you also. As to where everyone is, I found you two over in Mazda3 talking about the Protege as a matter of fact. :D
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    Pat's been spying on us lately :)

    Dinu
  • civiletticiviletti Posts: 86
    Yep, they come out with a new model and nobody cares anymore.
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    It's going to be 73F here today. Good time to zoom.

    fowler3
  • meinradmeinrad Posts: 820
    Went out for lunch today and took and additional 10 minutes to Zoom. Haven't done that lately but it was sunny and nice so I took the long way around.

    I can't wait for the roads to get cleared of all the winter gravel. As it is now, all my back roads are a bit dangerous.
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Posts: 1,583
    when I bought my Protege they simply added the $500 grad rebate along with the $1000 cash back they were running back then and subtracted from the final sales price.

    I got all the discounts in before I even drove it off the lot!
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    when I bought my Protege, the $500 grad discount came off the final sales price. I always thought that rebates and discounts came off of the price right away, at least that's how it's been for me with the Protege and Mazda6. I've never heard of anyone getting a check in the mail for rebates or discounts on vehicles.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    Signed up for Rev It Up at Arlington on Sunday.
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    at the time of the deal, you won't get it. Mail-in rebates are for cameras and computer stuff and on those they hope buyers will forget to send them in.

    fowler3
  • meinradmeinrad Posts: 820
    it's time to go.

    I just couldn't get over the ragtop bug that's been pestering me since I gave up my Sunfire for the P5.

    Last night the wife and I drove past the Chrysler dealership and stopped in to see the PT ragtop. We had liked the PT back when we bought the Protege and now that it doesn't have a roof it has become that much more appealing.

    So we drove it, pulled it in the garage to put the top down, and started dealing. Much to my surprise they were easy to deal with and we ended up signing the papers.

    We'll be picking up our Midnight Blue Pearl GT ragtop Saturday morning. I'll miss the P5 but only until that first sunny day when I'm cruising topless!

    And before you ask, yes I was upside down in the Progege, but some decisions aren't based purely on money.
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