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Here's some of what this 53 year old is carrying in the car now: Lynyrd Skynyrd (pre-airplane crash); Fleetwood Mac, Jethro Tull, Crosby Stills,Nash and Young, John Fogerty, Blues Bros the movie soundtrack, Janis, Z.Z. Top.
I sure hope duh_ster gets his problem squared away. He got jacked around royally.
Larry: Thank you for posting a question for us non-gearheads.
In the car right now are the following CD's: Stevie Wonder, Sly & the Family Stone, way old Aretha Franklin, Cranberries (Irish rock), Proclaimers (Scottish rock), Elton John, Leisure Dynamics (my brother's band), Jane's Addiction, Bach cello concertos, and the new U2 album (which I didn't like at first, but the darn thing is like crack--the more I listened to it, the more I wanted to listen to it, and now I've got practically all the songs memorized, even though some of them are just plain dumb!)
Regarding the stereo: Don't have a lot to compare it to, but I'm very pleased with the sound in my 00 ES. While it was in the shop a couple of months ago, rental place gave me a freakin Stratus. Now THAT'S a sucky sound system!
I got my first speeding ticket today in my 2001 ES! I am soooo mad! I was caught going 85 in a 55 zone. The cop also blamed me for trying to illude him (I stopped literally 30 seconds after he turned on the lights), and said I was driving negligently. He only wrote the ticket for 66mph and not 85 though, and said it would be $70 and 2 points. UGH! Yeah, I need my insurance to go higher. It's already $200 a freaking month! I know, I know, slow down.
I can't hear stereo, deaf in one ear, but do like it as Hi-Fi. What I hear mostly in the Protegé is the speaker in the right door and a little of the back speakers. The bass sounds good in the Pro I think. Much better than Honda audio, I agree.
When traffic gets heavy, rush hour stuff, I turn the audio off. Have to listen for somebody's horn; watch for cellphone users looking out the top of their windshields; and lane-change dudes making left turns from the far right lane.
fowler3
fowler3
Honda paints underside surfaces the same as the external ones. If it's a metallic paint the undersides are also metallic,but not as glossy
as the external finish.
fowler3
I recently purchased an LX 2.0 Auto w/ luxury package. Currently it is 2.5 months old, and has approx. 2200 mi on it. I havent exactly babied it in that Ive done alot of around town driving in it since I got it at 2 mi. brand new. The roads in Ohio can be pretty rough so theres plenty of hills, turns and just rough roads. I dont know what the deal is but since after like 1500 mi. it really has no pep at all between 1k and 2.5k rpm's. I havent really been pushing the car that hard. Ive hit the passing gear a a couple times just to see what it has. I have not been really that impressed at all by the cars power.
Its not NY or anything here but traffic is heavy here and like I said the roads are brutal. I need this car to perform and it just hasnt lived up to the zoom zoom that its billed as. Saturns, old American mades and even Corrola's seem to blow right by me. Possible reasons-I changed the oil early(1500) as it used like a quart in the first 1500 to Castrol GTX. That might have been a mistake. The dealer said the car is shipped with Quaker state. I think I might change it again now with quaker state. Ive also been using shell premium gas.But Just recently put shell 87 in it for the first time. I dont know but I may be crazy but I just think the car is losing compression already and the auto tranny seems weak. I hope things work out with this car as I got the extended warranty and planned on keeping it a while. If not. I will mostly likely move back to Chevrolet for good.
In regards to the factory sound system, I like it a lot. I never turn it up past half and I think it sounds good.
Duh: My fingers are still crossed for you.
PF
I've got the six-CD changer, which I invested in because I get tired of songs quickly. I like retro alternative (alright chicagopro and jpd58!),
also Dave Matthews Band, Barenaked Ladies, Tragically Hip, Bjork, Sinead O'Conner,... and older stuff like big band recordings, Gershwin, Peggy Lee, etc. Anything but pop - I cannot listen to any radio station that plays N'Sync, Brittany Spearhead, or whatever. Apologies to the many fans of pop, it just isn't my scene.
I hope to become a proud Protege owner like the rest of you!
Thank You.
Be brave and push the gas pedal a bit harder....above 2500 rpm....you will not regret it....believe me.....I have 31,000 miles on my '99 ES.
I mean, I love this car. Its black, has the spoiler,sunroof and power everything. I think its styling blows anything in its class away. I mean, you look good in these cars!No doubt!
I just thought I have overworked it or something in the early goings because it seemed much peppier when I drove it off the lot. I thought I broke it in right. I guess Im just worried about it too much because I love the thing and want it around for a while!
Does anyone use and have opinions of Castrol GTX oil?? I think it runs a little thin. I had always used quaker state before and plan on swithching back over for good. Do you think Tranny service would be too early at say 6500 mi.?
In the mean time , I'll try to keep up the zoom zoomin.
Thanks a bunch!
I don't know if using premium gas could be the reason for bad acceleration/performance, but the computer chips that 'learn' the right air-fuel mixture and ignition timing, are meant for and set up to be used with ONLY standard gas. High octane (premium) fuel ignites more easliy, and the ignition timing would be way (or atleast somewhat) off ideal if the system expects standard gas!
And its quite a fallacy that the use of higher grade gas does the engine any good, by washing or cleaning it out. All grades of gas have the same additives and cleaners, with the only difference being the octane rating.
In addition, I agree with veryone else's opinion about the engines in the Pro ES (and LX 2.0) being rev-happy and I encourage you to push down a bit harder with the right foot! Especially because I have a 95 DX, with the 1.5l engine (a bored-down version of the 1.8) and have yet to have ANY other econobox blow me away! Especially not a Corolla!
In my area the ES seem rare now, especailly 5 speeds. There seem to be more LX 2.0s around.
Hope you find your ES to take advantage of the 0% for 48. Good Luck!
Pete
When I first got mine I was concerned about passing performance given its hp. This because up here in the U.P. we have only 50 miles of Interstate hwy, the rest being two lane roads. I was pleasantly surprised to learn it just wasn't a problem. I put it to the floor and don't lift til I'm back in my lane.If I think about it I usually crank the volume just before putting the pedal to the metal! ) You have to rev these to get the performance you want but they're designed to take it so fear not. Drive it like this for a week and see if you change your mind about it. Having said that I truly wish it had about 20 more hp, but not because I need it. IMO they should start offering at least 170 hp. Oh Lord would this little beauty scream. Sigh.
I agree with fowler about stray animals liking our cars (they know good design when they see it . I've caught squirrels hanging around the ES; found nut shells under the car, and scratch marks on some of the rubber.
Generally speaking, cats and squirrels will leave a SET of parallel scratch marks, like two or three in a row, as opposed to long, single marks (like from a key). When the claws come out to climb up or down something, they ALL come out. Not impossible for them to leave single scratches, of course, but as a cat owner (with the scars to prove it), this has been my experience.
I just purchased an 01 last Thursday and a car carrier was off loading a half a dozen 02 Proteges. This was their first allocation.
Pete
Any comments or suggestions on what to look out for at delivery?
I might just have to drive 500+ miles to get my protege ES. Thanks again for all your info.
Respectfully,
Larry
Your friend will do better putting $14700 in a 6% money market for 4 years and take the 0% financing.
Just my 2 cents!
Pete
Hey, what does the new badging on the 2002 Pro's look like?
twist
My music: Nirvana, INXS, CALO (mexican pop/rock), Aerosmith, The Outfield, B 52's, Midnight Oil, ...........
Quaker state has lots of WAX...there for feels thick..not good for the engine...build lots of sludge.
Tranny service at 15,000 is the personal opinion of my service foreman...he does it on his car.
I've used lots of castrol gtx and found it fine. I've been warned by several people about Quaker State, but don't know of any documented shortcomings
PEACE
LARRY -- my "friend" -- I was just reading through the 210 messages that have appeared since I left, but when I got to the off-hand "tartar sauce and lemon wedge" remark by a certain PERSON, I had to jump forward and post this! Yes, I'm a big honkin' fella! But let's turn the mirror around and look backatcha! Man, if that ain't the pot callin' the kettle black!!! I wear my tonnage proudly; it took three laborious, slave-waged years as assistant manager of a Domino's Pizza to pile on my layers! At least I got out of the food biz! I forgot, what do YOU do for a living ...?
Hey everybody, I received a few more e-mails from prospective MAPP II attendees while I was on vacation. Give me a few hours to catch up on what's going on around here at work, and I'll shoot off an e-mail update to everyone. If anyone else wants to be let in on the fun, e-mail me at:
mdaffron@the-rma.org
Zoom zoom zoom!!! (Now, back to catching up on messages ...)
Meade
The 2.0's torque peak is at 4000 rpms, the Horsepower peak is at 6000 rpms. I find that I need at least 3000 rpm's for brisk acceleration. Also, take ashutoshsm's advise and stop giving it more octane then it's designed for. I think we'd all agree that putting in a LOWER grade then recommended is bad, so why do we insist that putting in a HIGHER grade is bettter? :-)
Cars are designed to run on certain octanes, the computers, how hot the plugs burn, etc. are all designed for that octane. So going with a different one "can" effect performance, as well as the life of your engine.
As far as the oil is concerned. As long as you are using a quality brand, in the CORRECT WEIGHT, there should be little to no difference in engine performance. That said, I still prefer Mobil1 products as I have had nothing but great experiences with them, both dino and synth.
btw-- your Bengals beat my beloved Patriots this weekend. congrats.
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TireRack sells a package that uses 15" steel wheels with 195/55R-15's. That's what I'm going with for my Pro5, using Arctic Alpins.
I notice that turning on the AC in the ES when driving sucks a noticeable amount of power from the engine. I can feel an instant kick, especially around 4000 rpm, without the AC running.
I stopped at the local Mazda dealership on Sunday to peruse their lot, and they have a loaded P5 there with auto., sunroof, ABS, and even alarm. It was the dark blue color. Glad it was not red, silver, or yellow or I might have been there today after work inquiring about a trade.
I really don't want to run 50-series tires in winter. I'm in VT, so we get a lot of snow, slush, ice, mud and bad roads for 3 or 4 solid months.