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2014 BMW 2-Series

Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,897
edited May 12 in BMW
New model for 2014 - talk about it here.
http://www.edmunds.com/bmw/2-series/2014/?sub=coupe

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  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,550
    Thanks - the M235i is on my radar
    for my next purchase...
    - Ray
    Always looking!
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,550
    edited December 2013

    Based on the Order Guide & Price Guide, this is my config.

    Base $43,100

    Metallic paint [ red, blue ? ] 550

    ZCW Cold Weather Package $ 550

    ZPP Premium Package $ 2,300

    Dest & handling \ Delivery $ 925

    Total = $47,425

    • Ray

    Hoping to see one at a dealer soon...

  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490

    Just "pre-ordered" my M235i today. Mineral gray exterior.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,827

    Nice..

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  • sidnigansidnigan Posts: 2

    Comes with LSD or is that an option on the M235i?

  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,550

    From the BMW release info: 'The BMW M Performance limited-slip differential will be available as an accessory for the M235i Coupe.'

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,673

    I'll wait to drive one. I hope the steering is substantially improved over the F30.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,673

    3500 lbs is fairly heavy- about what my E24 M6 weighed. And no optional limited slip? Moronic; it was an option on my Club Sport and standard on my MS3. Even the latest GTI has one. A Z4 M Coupe or CPO Cayman S looks better all the time...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261

    3500 lbs is a bit of a porker--that's heavier than a 1965 Chevy Impala! But I don't think most drivers will miss an LSD do you?

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,673
    edited January 19

    I'll miss an LSD, and more than a few will see the track- where lack of the proper diff will be a major hindrance. For years BMW offered an LSD across their model range- why can't they do it now? It's not like the an LSD requires additional safety or emission testing/certification. Mazda and VW do it- either offering it or making it standard on cars that cost less than $30k. How much trouble would it be to at least make it an option on top of the range Bimmers?

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261

    Well you know German engineers--I'm sure they have a complicated answer for this. But really, unless you're doing autocross, not having an LSD is fine for street driving. Still, you'd think for a car in the mid-$40K range......

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  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,550
    edited January 20

    My view of the M235i, as of today:

    Weight –

    It appears likely to be a weight comparable to the 335iS that I leased in 2011, though I have seen no independent verification of a US spec. weight. Having recently driven a 3,500+ pound BMW for close to 30,000 miles, and given the size, level of performance & equipment – I personally have no issue with the weight.

    Price –

    2011 335iS - $53.5K with 7-speed auto \ DCT

    2014 M235i - $44.0K with 8-speed ZF sport automatic

    [ Edit: I initially reversed these 2 - oops ]

    Performance –

    It appears that the acceleration will be slightly better than that 335iS. With the tires & suspension specified, I expect that it will handle & ride incrementally better.

    Size –

    It appears to have enough interior and luggage room – for me.

    Efficiency –

    The EPA city MPG rating is 30% better than the 335iS.

    The EPA highway MPG rating is 33% better.

    In fact, the M235i highway number is 1 less than the VW GTI that I now drive.

    Initial published reviews [ based on track & street driving in & around Vegas ] have been quite positive.

    So – pending instrumented tests verifying the above – and my own test drive, the M235i is high on my ‘short list’ of contenders for my $s, next time around.

    YMMV.

    • Ray

    Likely very late this year, or early 2015.

  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,550

    Edmunds has now published their 'first drive' review...

    http://www.edmunds.com/bmw/2-series/2014/road-test.html

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,673

    If the steering is as dull and lifeless as the F30's rack, I'm not interested.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,550
    edited February 28

    Since I can not figure out how to place a link to another post, this is a copy of what I posed on the CCBA forum...

    My BMW M235i test drive – first one available to drive here near Atlanta. [ Will probably drive another one within the next week or so. ]

    Equip. = ZF A8 automatic, Blue over black, Premium Pkg, Tech Pkg & heated seats. MSRP = $49,525 Not cheap, of course, but comparably equipped it would be several thousand less than the list price of the 2011 335iS I had.

    Very quick. Feels about as quick as I remember the 335iS to be. [ R&T test numbers bear this out. ] Sounds great. It is quieter in Normal Mode than the 335iS was, though that distinct, straight 6 cylinder sound is clear & obvious - but not intrusive. The gearing [ 80 MPH in top gear = approx. 2,000 RPM ] means any engine & exhaust noise fades away completely at highway speeds. [ This also likely contributes to that EPA Highway rating of 32 MPG. Much better that the 335iS with DCT. ]

    Comfortable and supportive front seats. I had no issues with the interior materials, fit or finish. Overall, the interior is much like the 335iS I had – nothing jarring there, to me.

    I like the looks of the exterior. Styling is largely subjective, of course, but I just never warmed up to the 135.

    The ride and handling compromise with the non-runflat Michelin Pilot Super Sports is excellent, as one would expect. Firm ride, certainly, but reasonably compliant. Ultimate handling capability is impossible to explore on a 10 minute test drive on public roads – I leave that to the automotive journalists and professional test drivers. [ Closed course, etc. ] 18” 225/40 fronts & 245/35 series rears. It looks to me like a spare wheel and tire would largely fill the trunk. I wonder is one would fit behind the passenger seat? [ Shrink wrapped, of course. ]

    The automatic is excellent, in normal mode. I really like the fact that the paddles are always active. I use them a lot, for both up and down shifts – often just for fun. Shifts were quick & smooth, with no slop. I will try Sport \ Sport+ Modes at some point.

    The steering was certainly OK to me. Though now electric, again, it felt very much as I remember the 335iS. No problems here for me.

    Gripes = minor:
    I would prefer a slightly larger fuel tank – only 13.7 gal - really? 12 gal [ leaving a reasonable reserve ] times 30 MPG = 360 miles range. OK, I guess. I would prefer the option of a spare tire & wheel – and a place to put it. That is about it.

    Unless something changes drastically in the automotive world over the next 12 months [ or I win the lottery ] I think this will likely be my next purchase.

    Cheers,

    • Ray

    Back to BMW??

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,827

    Ray..

    The link is in the time stamp (or date stamp, if it's an older post)

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  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,550

    Ah - thanks you!

    [ Not obvious to the uninformed... ]

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,827

    @rayainsw said: Ah - thanks you!

    [ Not obvious to the uninformed... ]

    Not obvious to anyone.. lol

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  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490

    @rayainsw said: Since I can not figure out how to place a link to another post, this is a copy of what I posed on the CCBA forum...

    My BMW M235i test drive – first one available to drive here near Atlanta. [ Will probably drive another one within the next week or so. ]

    Equip. = ZF A8 automatic, Blue over black, Premium Pkg, Tech Pkg & heated seats. MSRP = $49,525 Not cheap, of course, but comparably equipped it would be several thousand less than the list price of the 2011 335iS I had.

    Very quick. Feels about as quick as I remember the 335iS to be. [ R&T test numbers bear this out. ] Sounds great. It is quieter in Normal Mode than the 335iS was, though that distinct, straight 6 cylinder sound is clear & obvious - but not intrusive. The gearing [ 80 MPH in top gear = approx. 2,000 RPM ] means any engine & exhaust noise fades away completely at highway speeds. [ This also likely contributes to that EPA Highway rating of 32 MPG. Much better that the 335iS with DCT. ] Comfortable and supportive front seats. I had no issues with the interior materials, fit or finish. Overall, the interior is much like the 335iS I had – nothing jarring there, to me.

    I like the looks of the exterior. Styling is largely subjective, of course, but I just never warmed up to the 135.

    The ride and handling compromise with the non-runflat Michelin Pilot Super Sports is excellent, as one would expect. Firm ride, certainly, but reasonably compliant. Ultimate handling capability is impossible to explore on a 10 minute test drive on public roads – I leave that to the automotive journalists and professional test drivers. [ Closed course, etc. ] 18” 225/40 fronts & 245/35 series rears. It looks to me like a spare wheel and tire would largely fill the trunk. I wonder is one would fit behind the passenger seat? [ Shrink wrapped, of course. ]

    The automatic is excellent, in normal mode. I really like the fact that the paddles are always active. I use them a lot, for both up and down shifts – often just for fun. Shifts were quick & smooth, with no slop. I will try Sport \ Sport+ Modes at some point.

    The steering was certainly OK to me. Though now electric, again, it felt very much as I remember the 335iS. No problems here for me.

    Gripes = minor:
    I would prefer a slightly larger fuel tank – only 13.7 gal - really? 12 gal [ leaving a reasonable reserve ] times 30 MPG = 360 miles range. OK, I guess. I would prefer the option of a spare tire & wheel – and a place to put it. That is about it.

    Unless something changes drastically in the automotive world over the next 12 months [ or I win the lottery ] I think this will likely be my next purchase.

    Cheers,

    • Ray

    Back to BMW??

    Sounds like the same exact vehicle my dealer received last week. I have a M235i already on order, but I did a quick test drive and liked how the car felt.

    The dealership also received a couple of 228's, a white one with tan interior and a red one with black insides.

    I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get a lot of enjoyment out of the car when it finally arrives...

  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,550

    busiris - When is it due?

    Please report here once you have driven it a while?

    Thanks,

    • Ray

    Excited for you . . .

  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490

    As I understand it, BMW issues its next (2nd) 2-Series order allotment in early March. The 1st allotment was pretty much used up by BMW getting cars out to the entire dealership base.

    I was told that I'm at the top (#1) for the dealership's 2nd allotment, and to expect delivery in May.

    I'll report back as the order progresses through the system...

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261

    Just click on EVERYTHING.

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  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490

    I'm scheduled for delivery of my 235 on May 28 at the Performance Center. Should be an excellent day!

  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,550

    Nice!

    Please post impressions here?

    • Ray

    Waiting now....

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,673

    On the BMWUSA site I just saw that a "Moonroof Deletion" option has been added. Good show, Munich- now just make the LSD a factory installed option...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • kabbalahkabbalah Posts: 41

    I leased a loaded M235. Traded in 2010 135 drop top. Paid full sticker $51350 on a 3 year lease.

    Mineral white/coral red
    Drivers assistance pkg Premium pkg Technology pkg Heated front seats harmon kardon premium sound

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