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Acura CL



  • Get a Toyota Solara SLE. The JBL system provides you bass you can feel, and that is without cranking the bass up to full output.
    A good sound system is a MUST for me in a car, and I am extremely disappointed with the Bose system in the CL-S, enough that I may not buy the car unless improvements are made in 2002. I mean, yes the 260HP is awesome, but if you are stuck in traffic the majority of the time during you daily commute (like I am), you will get more use out of the stereo, than the engine.
  • ineto6ineto6 Posts: 161
    I had several fairly large sized people in my car's front passenger seat - I've asked and got no complains. Although, I want more lower back support. Maybe more side bolsters for more fun during turns.

    The sound system is ok to me since I don't listen to just the bass. If I want bass, then I'll crank up my home system. I'd rather listen to the engine sings. Side mirrors are fine and not blocking my front views. Although the large A-pillar tend to block my view a little when turning.
  • ineto6ineto6 Posts: 161
    another thing - I've read that the RSX's bass is probably better than the CL - shessssss... so let's all hope that the CL's future stereo will be better for all to stop whining :D
  • canadianclcanadiancl Posts: 1,078
    Stiff steering is good. The CL-S steering has very good "feel". I've come to really appreciate the CL-S's steering after recently test driving a couple of Infiniti I30's. The steering on the I30 seems inprecise with a vague on-centre feel by comparison. (The I30 seemed underpowered in comparison too!)
    It's normal that the front tires look underinflated due to the weight over the front, the low-profile tires and the radial "bulge".
  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,482
    Mr. Canada ;-), I work for an AV install company that is an authorized dealer and installer of Bose Professional products. I talked to the N. Cal rep, and he hooked me up with their automotive division in MA. They're very interested in what people are saying here and in the forums on I'm going to email them with the URL's. They are very sensitive to the brand value of the Bose name, and don't want to see anything negative associated with it.

    I'm not looking for super bass - just a normal supply of low end, which is just not available from her CL Bose system, currently. However, I did stop by an Acura dealer during lunch and listened to one on the lot. It sounded much better than hers, so it might just be defective speakers, amp, or maybe they wire some of them incorrectly at the factory. Sometimes the dealer staff cranks the stereos while they are detailing. Maybe they blew the woofers.

    I notice that some people are complaining about the seats. I find them to be quite comfortable. We have the standard CL, not S type, and find the smooth leather to be much more luxurious than the perforated type in the S. I also prefer the softer ride and steering over the S.

    The only other negative that I've found, if you can call it that, is the extremely light weight steel used in the trunk and hood, almost bordering on flimsy. It doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the car's rigid structure.

    Overall, though, the CL is an excellent value at under $26,000.
  • ineto6ineto6 Posts: 161
    Yes, I like the steering on the CL Type S as well. It is easy to park in a parking lot, unlike the looser feels of less sporty cars. Although, I wish the steering is a little tighter at high speeds. Going through a turn at high speed and you'll appreciate tighter steering.

    The bad thing about perforated leather is when you have to clean them - need a toothpick to get the conditioner out of the holes or just let it sit like that.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273

    Thanks for the info. I have a 2001 CL-S that I purchased on 3/28/01. I love this car compared to the 1999 Motor Trend Car of the Year that I drove before this. As a matter of fact, I got rid of that car 3 months early because I did not want it in MY name at 36,000 miles with no warranty.

    Anyway, I digress, as usual. Years ago, to me, a stereo was a stereo. I'm no audiophile. Then, I bought a 1994 Infiniti J-30 that had a BOSE radio! WOW! Could I notice the difference in sound! Beautiful. This is my second car with a BOSE system. I don't think this one is as good as the one in my Infiniti. It's HEAD over heels better then the 360 watt, 11 speaker, Infinity upgraded system that was in my 300M, but the CL radio doesn't seem the same as my Infiniti J-30. It's true- there is no "boom-boom" bass sound. I don't usually listen to music booming like that, but I think it's needs more bass too. Do you think BOSE knows this and just builds the radios to Acura's specs or do you think there is something that they can do to improve this "problem"? My car has NOT been to the dealer yet, so they couldn't have blown any speakers or anything. I could live with it, but if it could be made better, that would be nice. What would you suggest we do? Do the Acura dealers have BOSE "specialists" that could check this out or should we call/e-mail BOSE?

    I know that many people in the forum complain about the lack of bass. They can't all have defective radios or blown speakers!



  • jrentjrent Posts: 15
    I traded my '96 J30 in on the CL/S. I also noticed a big difference in the sound system, J30 was much better. My solution has been to leave the windows down Bose OFF and listen to the engine, of course this may change as the newness wears off, I've only had CL/S since March 15
  • obiwankenobi1obiwankenobi1 Posts: 290
    Hey, what can we say? My dad's J30t is still the only car in our family that had the best stock stereo ever. I used to sit in the garage and listen to CD's in the car because of how great the sound was.

    I will admit, I put an aftermarket Nakamichi In-Dash CD player in my 90 BMW M3. Now THAT system sounds better than my 99 Acura CL ever was. Honda/Acura and Toyota/Lexus have always had crappy sound systems.

    1990 BMW M3 Alpinweiss II
  • rickas47rickas47 Posts: 2
    I went looking for new vehicle last weekend. We drove a CL-S and pretty much fell in love with it. We never considered an Acura, the nearest dealer is 145 miles away. What is the general consensus on unscheduled maintence problems early on. Would i be making the trip every other week to resolve problems? Can (heaven forbid) the local Honda dealer service an Acura (didn't think so).
    I'd probably have similar problems with any of the other cars that we are considering. Also one dealer was offering $2800 under MSRP. Is this a usual offer or is it year end clearance price?
    Finally any known reasons to wait for a 2002? What changes are in store?
    Thanx for your time.
  • No one seems to know anything about the 2002 in terms of when it will be available and what will be new. Acura is being very quit, and there doesn't seem to be a resource for answers.
    Good luck with your purchase decision
  • mdanielmdaniel Posts: 47
    The word on is that the 2002 will feature a 6 speed manual as an option. So if you're at all hesitant about buying an auto I would sit tight until August or September and see if the stories are true. Other than that, Honda/Acura usually only makes superficial changes during a model's life cycle. ie. different wheels, different side mirrors, etc. Nothing that should influence your buying decision.
    I've had my 2001 CL-S since March 2000 and have had few problems in the 20,000 miles I've driven. The biggest thing was a broken stabilizer bar which I was able to take care of as time permitted. (The car drove OK with it broken) I also had them take care of a couple of rattles while they had the car. That was my only service other than routine maintenance. You should find a good independent Honda/Acura shop in your area. Also, a Honda dealer should be able to work on you Acura since they're really the same thing. Acura is simply a marketing nameplate used in North America. In fact, my dad once took my mom's Honda to an Acura dealer when the master cylinder blew during a trip to Las Vegas. They had no problem fixing it.
  • alarmproalarmpro Posts: 27
    I just returned from a wonderful vacation in Canada. I was tickled to see how many CL-Ss there are in S.W. Canada. How can I get my US CL-S to run the daytime lights. My factory service manual gives virtually no info on this great feature.
    Niagra Falls was beautiful and I proposed to my girlfriend and she said.....

    Lee in Miami, Red/Tan CL-S non-navi 14 mos new.
  • ineto6ineto6 Posts: 161
    Lee - I am sorry, she said "no"... j/k

    I don't see why you just leave your lights on when you drive since they turn off automatically. Unless you are talking about making the high beams as DRL, like GM does. That, I don't know.
  • 90maxima90maxima Posts: 14
    I got my CL-S with Nav back in September last year. I was able to get the car for $2300 below invoice through The purchase experience was the best I've ever had, with absolute no hassle. Considering that the 2002 are due shortly, perhaps you can try for a better deal in a month or so.

    With the exception of the lack of bass from the BOSE system, when compared to my 90 Maxima SE, I'm very happy with the car. A few words of caution: that engine will hit the rev limiter without any advance warning in the form of vibration or straining sound :-)
  • canadianclcanadiancl Posts: 1,078
    Congrats! But I guess you meant you were in S.E. Canada. Vancouver, B.C. (God's Country) would be S.W. Canada. And if you thought S.E. Canada was beautiful, you haven't seen nothing yet! Come on over to Western Canada. Take your fiancee thru Banff in your CL-S, then down thru the B.C. interior to Vancouver, Victoria, Whistler. Some of the sceneries are unbelievable. OK, I'll stop. Enough free promotion for Tourism B.C..
  • canadianclcanadiancl Posts: 1,078
    As my CL-S has just hit the 4500 mile mark, there seems to be a noticeable increase in power - the engine just seems peppier than before. Maybe that's the official break-in threshold for the engine? Unfortunately, the number and variety of rattles seem to have increased proportionate to the power increase . If only they had given this car Toyota build quality
  • rickas47rickas47 Posts: 2
    Last niteI saw on Autoweek that the 6 speed will be the only significant change for 02. May be worth waiting for.

    Lee -congrats - also canadianc - I may have to visit your part of the world - what is the best time of the year?

    UGH! - I DON"T want to hear about rattles. I had my mind (feeble as it is) made up on a Solara B4 I drove the CL-S. The CL-S is sooo much more car for not much more money. Maybe they will take care of that in 2002 also???
  • canadianclcanadiancl Posts: 1,078
    Best time of the year for B.C. is definitely late spring to early fall. Unless you're a skier, then Whistler offers the best skiing from early January to late February. Otherwise, late fall to winter is kinda dreary because it gets dark early and rains a fair bit. Just ask Othella Harrington or any one of the soon-to-be ex Vancouver Grizzlies.
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