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  • Not to be rude, but there is this big misconception going around that Honda's have better maintenamce then BMW's. Everyone I have talked to who owns BMW's agree that there have been no problems with their cars through ownership. The only thing is that maintenance costs MORE!

    I wouldn't say Honda's are more reliable, they are just cheaper to fix. I can tell you that the motor in my BMW is built better than ANY Honda I have owned!

    No offense. Just stating my case!

    Obi
  • ineto6ineto6 Posts: 161
    from what I gathered.... not much will be changed for 02 CL. However, there will be lots of changeds for 02 TL. They test things first on the TL and make it better on the CL... :)
  • xmannxmann Posts: 19
    Having owned Hondas and an Acura as well as BMW 3 series and now BMW 7 series I have to agree with you. No question the BMW is more reliable over all and holds together better over the long run. Especially if subjected to more then moderate use (12-15,000 miles/yr). My company uses both Accords and Acuras and BMW's. Simply comparing the service records of the models over the past 5 years the edge goes to BMW over Acura in terms of repairs and complaints. After 50,000 miles, from that point on the Acura's require far more repairs compared to BMW's. As far as costs Acura's aren't exactly cheap to repair either.
  • I'll just have to monitor how much time my Bimmer spends in the shop and weigh that against how much time my CL and Integra spent in the shop.

    I am sure that maintenance will be more expensive, but I am ok with that.

    Plus, in 4 years when this thing is paid off, I will probably get another Honda and just drive the BMW on the weekends.

    That is unless another sweet deal comes along and bites me in the [non-permissible content removed] like the M3 did! :)

    Obi
  • demchrisdemchris Posts: 1
    I am looking into buying a 2001CL. I'm wondering what everybody's experience has been with fitting adults into the back seats. I am going from a UV to a coupe and must admit a bit worried. When I test drove it this weekend the salesman and another adult were in the back seats and it didn't seam to tight. what are your experiences?
  • Hi all:

    We are having a great discussions at www.acura-cl.com the club events forum. If you own a CL in Canada and would like to join us, you are most welcomed. We are thinking about having some getting togethers in at least Toronto and possibly Montreal.
  • Hi all,

    I was reading these messages, and want to comment on a similar problem. I have a CLS, that, when I come up to a traffic light, the engine sometimes will "surge" for a second. Interesting thing is that the tachometer does not move when this happens. It's like I have the brake depressed but the car still wants to move some. Is this what the others are experencing?
  • I have the same problem with my 1990 BMW M3. I was told it is a vacuum leak, but that I can fix it when I get around to it. Basically, it means the engine and computer on the car are out of alignment, and the engine is surging trying to catch up with the computer.

    Or maybe I am just an idiot and don't know what I am talking about. BMW's and Acura's are two entirely different cars, so who knows!

    I know MY car has a vacuum leak! :)

    Obi
    1990 BMW M3 Alpinweiss
  • gto2050gto2050 Posts: 2
    This seems to be a natural phenomena with this car. All the owners I have talked to have experienced it. It appears to be the engine adjusting for an increased load on the system by either the alternator or A/C. I don't even notice it anymore.
  • We have a 2001-CL Type S that will be 1 Year old in May. WE LOVE THIS CAR!!

    We have seen all sorts of thing develop on this car but we have been very good about maintenance and every time I go to the dealer for service, they fix whatever issue it is (free of charge).

    There was a service bulletin last summer for the sunroof. Our service manager told us they essentially put a wedge into the sunroof linkage to make it seal better. It took care of the problem; however, it has started again--to a much lower degree. I do notice, too that it squeeks when the rubber or the paint around the lip of the sunroof gets dirty. However, if I clean the rubber and the paint around the sunroof, the squeek goes away. WHO KNOWS!!!

    About the engine surging, yes we've noticed this to some extent, too. But you can also hear the AC pump (or whatever that thing is) come on when you feel that surge. I have also started noticing a slight noice--coming from the engine compartment--when I have the car in gear, foot on the brake, and the AC pump comes on. It sounds almost like a "heat shield" vibration I used to have in my '88 Nissan. Thats on the list for the next servcice appointment.

    I am also noticing a metallic "ting" sound coming from the dashboard (I'm assuming the CD player) when I step on the gas. It sounds exactly like the "spring" noise the CD player makes when you load discs. But I'm also noticing more "squat" in the rear of the car now (didn't notice it at all when it was new) so I'm going to have the dealer check the rear suspension and also ask them if that squat could be causing the CD player to have to adjust itself inside the dashboard--or if there is something loose in there. (I hear this "ting" with even a very slight forward movement now---not just heavy acceleration.
  • anand8anand8 Posts: 1
    I love this car never driven anything like it. I dont believe in comparisons. The BMW is a nice car in its own right and so is some other car in its class just like people we have different kinds of car for different kinds of people...

    The question is : I know that the type S has a fighter wishbone suspension.. but I am hearing some irritating minor rattling that I think emanates from my right door and the Moon roof lid when I have it open ..normally hear it when I ride really irregular pavement ..we have a lot of those in this land .
    Can anyone tell me if they exprience this ..is this normal ? otherwise the ride and resopnse is superb.
  • canadianclcanadiancl Posts: 1,078
    On surging: I noticed it on a demo that I took on an extended test drive and also on mine initially after I bought it. The car doesn't move and I don't even think the tach needle moves. I'd be sitting at a red light and all of a sudden I'd hear the engine rev up a bit for a split second. At first I thought the edge of my right foot had slipped off the brake pedal and pressed on the gas. But that wasn't the case. However, I don't notice it anymore. Maybe I have just gotten accustomed to it.

    Anand8: that minor rattle could be coming from the front passenger seat and the rattle from the roof could be from the sunshade. I've stopped trying to figure out where all these rattles are coming from. That is the biggest gripe I've got with this car -- all sorts of rattles and squeaks that will come on seemingly randomly and disappear just as randomly. BTW, what is a "fighter" suspension?
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    Just leased a 2001 CL Type S. Turned in my award winning 99 Chrysler 300M Motor Trend Car of the Year!! LOL.... Just got the car on Wednesday and am looking forward to sharing experiences with other owners here. The only thing I wasn't to keen on is the fact that the moonroof does not open all the way. Why didn't they make it open outside the car if it wouldn't slide all the way back?

    Anyway, I KNOW this car will NOT be back to the dealer as many times as my award winning one!

    fastdriver
  • ineto6ineto6 Posts: 161
    Sorry, but the "surging" issue has been addressed many posts before.

    I guess he meant "tighter". Yup, I do experience some squeaks when driving over bad pavements at slow speeds.... yeah, strange that it cannot be heard at highway speed. Anyway, I think mine is due to the backseat leather rubbing against the molding.

    fastdriver - congrats, now you have a faster car, but the moonroof design is inherent. I think that open on the inside makes the car looks cleaner and not like the Integra..... perhaps the TL/CL are nearly identical that making sliding moonroof outside does not make economical sense for Honda.
  • FOUND A "USED" 2001 CL-S WITH 8000 MILES WITH ALL AND MORE OF THE USUAL AMENITIES. THE DUDE TRADES HIS CARS IN EVERY 6 MONTHS. SAW IT, DROVE IT, AND BOUGHT IT IN THREE HOURS. THE 300M THAT I DROVE WAS NO COMPARISON TO THIS VEHICLE AND THE CHRYSLER FOLK NEED TO LEARN HOW TO TREAT PEOPLE.
    WONDER WHAT FOLKS THAT OWN THE SAME ACURA THINK ABOUT "DRESSING IT UP" WITH SOME ADD-ONS BUT NOT TO GO TO "GHETTO" WITH IT. WAS CONSIDERING DARKENING THE WINDOWS AND PUTTING ON JUST THE TOP END OR THE BRA ON THE HOOD. TRAVEL ALOT AND THE BUGS GET BAD. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE SPOILER YET.
    ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS FOR THIS FANTASTICALLY QUICK AND NIMBLE LITTLE MACHINE? THE ONLY DRAWBACK THAT I NOTICE IS THAT THE STEERING IS NOT AS TIGHT AS I'M USED TO. SO WHAT, I'LL SUFFER. THIS IS A GEM. -PETER.
  • juiceyjuicey Posts: 7
    Several people have written about upgrades for the GTP, such as pulleys, etc... Has anyone modified their CL-S. Looking for any suggestions. I recently purchased an AEM cold air intake. I should be getting it early next week. They claim that it is a 15HP increase to the wheels. I will keep you posted on the outcome. I will race a buddy of mine w/ a '96 Impala before and after we put it on just to have a comparison. I also hear the the Comptech headers are pretty impressive, but I don't want to void my warranty. I don't want to do anything major. Thanks for any suggestions.
  • ineto6ineto6 Posts: 161
    STOP YELLING -


    that being said, it's hard to say what you want to do with your car so that it won't look so gawdy ( I only tint my car.... really need it around here). You might want to get more feedbacks from those guys at http://www.acura-cl.com they are a bunch of nuts, but they seem to know what to do with their CLs.


    BTW, the CL is large for a coupe, but still nimble for its size.

  • juiceyjuicey Posts: 7
    Has anyone looked into putting side molding on their CL?
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    juicey-


    I know! That was the first thing I noticed too! I was already picturing door dings!


    fastdriver

    http://photos.yahoo.com/fastdriver2_99

  • I took my 01 CL-S to my local Honda dealer and had them install factory Honda Accord coupe side moldings. Cost was $138 installed, the color match is perfect, my car is silver. Had them installed at the crease on the lower side of the door and rear quarters. Looks 100% factory. This was the first thing I did after getting my CL, the moldings have already saved me at least twice from getting dinged.

    Erik V.
  • ineto6ineto6 Posts: 161
    I don't really care for them since I usually park my car out of the way. The problem with side moldings is that it makes waxing the car more of a hassle. If you ever had wax on those parts then you know what I mean.
  • juiceyjuicey Posts: 7
    Thanks for the advice. I also have the silver. I had already done some research. I did look at the Accord Coupe and compared color codes. It is the exact same color. I was thinking that installing them at the crease on the lower side of the door and rear quarters was a bit low. Just a thought. I was afraid that the side molding would take away from the look of the car. Is this the case? I don't guess that you would have a picture to send me?

    I don't really care for them either. I am very particular about where I park my car. I don't even drive it in the rain. I think it will take away from the look of the car, but if I could prevent a dent/chip/scratch, it would be well worth it even if waxing does cause a problem.

    I also work with someone that owns the old CL. It has molding that looks pretty good. Took a few measurements, it will be pretty close. The only problem would be the color. I feel the Accord Coupe would me the way to go.
    Tahnks again
  • ineto6ineto6 Posts: 161
    Not many new cars have this feature or many people appreciated. Even though this has been around for decades - seen it in a '76 Olds. Maybe the reception would have been better with the powered antenea, but I like the integrated look - you don't have to take care of it !!!
  • I have read several posts from CL owners in regards to the Bose stereo system in the CL. I currently have a Solara with a 200wt JBL system that is outstanding for a factory installed sound system. Just curious what the specs on the CL system and why people say that it is subpar for the car it is installed in.
    Thanks-
    PNC
  • canadianclcanadiancl Posts: 1,078
    I don't know the power output of the CL-S stereo without looking it up -- maybe 120 watts?
    I compared it to the BOSE system in my previous car, a '95 Maxima, and the Maxima's is way superior in terms of the highs and lows. You can really crank the Maxima's system up without distortion. And if you play a track with a heavy bass, you can literally feel it.
  • great engine for an uninsiring car. Acura should have given the body a little more soul like they did the integra and legend(for its time). The bmw and is300 have an inspiring aura of their own, but the acura CL and TL lack personality. Its too conservative. With that superb engine, they could have made a more spectacular car to get them in the pact with bmw and lexus.
  • tomsrtomsr Posts: 325
    I have a 98 CL and a 01 3.2 TL.I like the headlights on the TL.I saw at the auto parts
    store that replacement bulbs for the CL are
    available with a blue tint.Is this a gimmick or are they actually brighter?
  • canadianclcanadiancl Posts: 1,078
    The styling I can live with. But you would think with the performance it offers and the fact that it is targeting the upscale European imports, Acura would have done a better job with the build quality. The fit and finish and various nagging rattles on the CL-S wouldn't even be acceptable on a garden variety Accord.
  • jrentjrent Posts: 15
    Just purchased for $28,400 in So CA used my '96 Infinite J30 as trade (70,500) They gave me $10,200 for the J30 was this a deal or did I get taken? Any thoughts on bras, I want to preserve the finish of the car but is a bra realistic for every day use or only on long freeway trips? Regarding after market side moldings, are these epoxyed on or riveted to the body?
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