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Chevy Silverado - Continued XVIII



  • danogdanog Posts: 318
    Just wanted to comment on holiday traffic. Left work yesterday 1 hour after "rush hour" and got stuck in traffic. I could explain the layout but it would take too long. Anyway, dead stop for 20 minutes and finally start moving. After two miles it cleared to a little less than normal and I never saw a wreck or even a car on the side of the road. There should BE A LAW that requires drivers to get certified on a regular basis to ensure they know the basic drivers rules! Sometimes I just wanna take the truck down the median.
    Sorry for venting but it is better than road rage!

  • i am right with you on the traffic - i do not know how some people got their drivers license. could have been worse though, we had our freeway shut down here yesterday in both directions because one of our "news helicopters" crashed on the freeway right at the end of rush hour...
  • danogdanog Posts: 318
    Joe Dirt.....

    DANG! Helicopter crashed? What city?

  • the crash happened a little southwest of milwaukee. just saw the news and the pilot ended up dieing...
  • You guys should come down to Washington D.C. to see real traffic jams.... we do it sporadically, for absolutely no reason, just to keep in shape for the next real one! Now a helicopter crash.... that would tie up the beltway for at least 4 hours!
  • ryanbabryanbab Posts: 7,240
    go to chicago

    This past summer a guy driving a coca cola truck (small box) Stopped on the dan ryan (highway) i believe it was. Just stopped in the center lane. Cops were called and guy said he had a gun. 5 hrs later guy got out and police subdued him. No gun he was mad cause his gf broke up with him

    They were turning traffic around and sending them back the opposite way
  • txyank1txyank1 Posts: 1,010
    it always a Woman at fault!
  • rayt2rayt2 Posts: 1,208
    Oh brother, be prepared for the backlash on that one now !!
    The new topic will be womans rights !

    Ray T.
  • danogdanog Posts: 318
    It is nice to have a Silverado to sit in while stuck in traffic. The mp3 player comes in handy too.
    While telling traffic stories, and I am sure there are many, got stuck because someone went off the road into the median. The subsequent rubber neckers slowed traffic so bad the delay was backed up for 8 miles. The car was simply off the road with their hazards on, that is it. Big wrecks I can understand the jams, but when the roadway is completely open, that I do not.

  • erikf2erikf2 Posts: 100
    Here's one for ya - Well AFTER "rush hour", I'm headed westbound on Washington State 520 between I-405 and Lake Washington, and the speed is stop-and-go up to a blazing 15MPH. This is not unusual, if there's an accident.

    After about a mile of this, I see the traffic breaking loose ahead, so we must be near the scene. As we come to the obvious crunch point, I look to my right and see - a state trooper in his car on the right shoulder, reading a newspaper and munching on a sandwich, and nothing else!
  • rayt2rayt2 Posts: 1,208
    They do that all the time on New York State Thruway, my buddy a retired N.Y. State Trooper, says it's one of the easiest speed enforcement tools out there, just sit on side of road or in median drinking coffee and catching up on news. The mear presence of the car is enough to make us all look down at the speedo and slow down cuz ya don't know if the chase car is around the next corner. I for one rely on my Valentine One detector, it has saved me numerous times while others fly by and get pulled over.

    Ray T.
  • erikf2erikf2 Posts: 100
    Point is, folks who weren't even speeding were applying the brakes just 'cause the trooper was there, thereby causing the backup. I don't know how many times I've seen people doing the speed limit, or even UNDER, and they STILL hit the brakes when they see the trooper. I don't mind if it makes the people who are 10+ over slow down, but why do you have to slow down even more if you're already at or under the limit?
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,065
    better to be safe than sorry.
  • ryanbabryanbab Posts: 7,240
    what happened to discussing fender flares nerf bars etc?

  • eric2001eric2001 Posts: 482
    The blue mirrors. LOL
  • rayt2rayt2 Posts: 1,208
    the BFG's, the Rhino Liner and the Bilstein's!! LOL

    OK back to truck stuff, had rotors turned to solve pedal pulsation, I wanted new, dealer says they get turned first if problem returns they replace then, told him I'd see him in the spring for the new ones. The cold & snowy N.Y. winters will shurely do them in now that they took even more heat dissipating steel off of them.

    Ray T.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Hello all,

    I'm new to this forum (though not to Town Hall), so I checked back over the last 50-60 posts for some basic info, but unfortunately what I need to know isn't there. So, would someone be kind enough to bring me up to speed on some very basic stuff? I'm considering a 1500/2500 HD LT, so:

    1: How is pricing in relation to invoice at the moment?
    2: I picked up on the steering shaft problem in earlier posts. Any other current issues I should be aware of?
    3: What sort of time are factory orders taking to come through?

    TIA for your consideration.
  • the pulsation is probably coming from some runout in the rotors from rust flakes that fall between the inside of the rotor and hub flange, cocking the rotors in relation to the axle centerline. this may happen when you loosen the lug nuts to rotate the tires. The last time I rotated mine I noticed that the New England winter (along with the fact I live by salt water), had started to cause some flaking.

    To avoid the runout this might cause, I took the calipers and rotors off, and cleaned the snot out of the inside of the "hat" section and the face of the flange. Then used my dial indicator to check the rotors on the flange to make sure they were "0" runout. (actually, closest I could get on a couple of them was .001) Had to make up some spacers to go between the nut and rotors to hold them on the flange while doing this.

    Now, NO tire shop is going to take the time to do this and dealer mechanics often forget that runout leads to thickness variation and pedal pulsation. If there is as little as .004 of runout it will allow the rotor to hit the pads and wear the rotor unevenly. The uneven wear is high and low spots about 180 degrees apart on the braking surfaces of the rotor. As little as .001 of "Rotor Thickness Variation" (RTV) will cause pedal pulsation.

    What makes things worse is the rotors are "phase matched" during assembly at the factory, and if the tech machining the rotors doesn't mark the original alignment of the rotor position on the hub in relation to the wheel studs, AND doesn't use a dial indicator to verify that the rotors are running true to the perpendicular centerline of the axle, it may come back with the pulsation within 2 to 12 weeks.

    Yes, rotor mass has some bearing on the heat absorbtion and disapation, but warping due to heat becomes runout, and that leads to RTV and pedal pulsation. No matter what the reason for developing the runout is, the majority of pedal pulsation is caused by rotor thickness variation.

    BUT proper servicing will prevent an unnecessary repair!!

    I used to spend a great deal of time discussing this situation with technicians and installers all over the country, until my headquarters office moved from here to now, after 20 years with Bendix, I guess I will have to find someone else to pay for my services.

    Hope this might help explain the, why it is happening, and how to avoid having it repeated.

  • ryanbabryanbab Posts: 7,240
    remember my brake dilema (squeak ones). I had my rear rotors turned and pads replaced and 2 wks later squeak at low speeds came back.

    Well i took the tire off and sanded off the surface rust (very light coat) myself put the tire back on and a few months have passed with no more squeak.
  • mledtjemledtje Posts: 1,123
    1: How is pricing in relation to invoice at the moment?

    That depends on your dealer. I deal through the fleet department, because I know what I want far better than the salesman does. Invoice or under right now.

    2: I picked up on the steering shaft problem in earlier posts. Any other current issues I should be aware of?

    Steering shaft shouldn't be an issue on a 2002.

    3: What sort of time are factory orders taking to come through?

    Again, it depends on your dealer, and if he has an allocation from GM for a pickup. No allocation = no order. Nobody claims to understand the system. Ask your dealer if he has an allocation. If he does, he should be able to get you an order number in a week or so. If not, try another dealer. My dad went to one dealer and ordered and waited 6 months, while I went to a different dealer and ordered and waited 6 weeks.

    Mike L
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