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Toyota Tundra Problems

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  • xyz71xyz71 Posts: 179
    Sorry to hear about your Tundra problem - I have owned 3 Toyotas (but 0 Tundras) - First was perfect 100,000+ miles with no problem - oil changes, tires and 1 battery. Second had minor problems (A/C, tranny slip, brake squeal) all fixed by dealer - Even though it was a pain to keep taking my truck back in to the dealer they treated me fair - even fixed it after warranty expired. So I bought a third Toyota. It was a true lemon. Too many problems to list. You name it it was a problem, after more than 10 trips to the dealer I ask for my $$ back. - No way was that going to happen. After several months of fighting I traded it in on a Chevy Tahoe. I have been buying Chevy's ever since. Better pricing, more HP, larger cabs, Who could ask for anything more!!

    My current Chevy - 34 months & 30K - 2 trips to dealer - but nothing major.

    OK - to be honest - my Chevys have not been perfect - minor rattles in the dash, a clunk in the drive line every once in a while, a speaker that sounds like crap when I turn the bass up - but I have never been left on the side of the road. That is more than I can say for the last Toyota I owned.
  • ndahi12ndahi12 Posts: 235
    a link to the article where the Center For Auto Safety names the Tundra one of the top 25 worst vehicles in America. I went to their site and could not find that list that you guys are talking about. I only found this http://www.autosafety.org/autodefects.html It lists the auto defects, but none of the Toyta cars are mentioned.
  • Very suprised to hear your experience with truck. You know I've listened to some other people with similar problems and i'm kinna disappointed that Toyota seemingly hasn't addressed the brake issue most importantly. Since 2000 was first year, it was expected for truck to have a few glitches. Im just suprised that 2 years later now that theres still a brake issue with some 2002s.

    For me, Toyota over the years earned a spot due to its reliability and quality. An overwhelming majority of people I know are quite happy with theirs. I just hope that after hearing some of the more recent issues about customer dis-satisfaction with dealers and other minor things, that Toyota's long time reputation isn't starting to slowly tarnish. I will say this though, I've been reading posts in other discussions, and the Toyota problems still seem much milder than a good amount of the American trucks.
  • Helloooo!!!, maybe you need to go back and read post 491 again. Never said they were different, I just know most people carry on about chevys. I wouldn't own either one and yes they are both made by GMC I think we all know that! lol. But if GM PRODUCTS make you happy than go for it, you can have my share of them also. Remember this is a Toyota Tundra topic, where people can share info about the Tundra. By the way GM ALSO MAKES SATURN, but again we're here to talk about TUNDRAS nothing else.
  • ndahi12ndahi12 Posts: 235
    I have a 2002 and I have NO brake issues at all. I am begining to think that most of those who are having brake issues on their 2001-2002 Tundras do not use the parking brake. From what I have read using the parking brake helps reset the front/ rear brake balance on the truck. It is essential to use your parking brake everytime you park your Tundra.

    The Tundra is not a prefect truck, but it is as near to perfect as could be. Every time I drive my Tundra I am impressed by its abilities.

    Today I towed my SE-R to San Diego. I was doing 75-80 all the way. I was in OD almost all of the time and had the AC on and was passing traffic left and right. It felt as if I was towing nothing. This truck is a beast.

    I have close to 4K on the truck and the only thing I have to complain about is a rattle from the passanger side seat belt that is intermittent and a rattle from the passanger side dash board when I hit a BIG bump and I mean big enough to unsettle the suspension.

    One more thing I am experiencing is the poor reception on the radio. On occasion the radio skips the channel it is locked to. I do not know if it is the weather or if the antenna is loose.

    These are all minor things compared to what most dodge/chevy/ford owners experience.
  • "It is essential to use your parking brake everytime you park your Tundra."

    "These are all minor things compared to what most dodge/chevy/ford owners experience."

    15000 miles on my 2001 Chevy 1500 and NO repairs or warranty issues at all-including shaking and warped brakes. And no, I don't use my parking brake every time I park my truck. Ridiculous to think you can ruin the brakes on a fullsize 30K 1/2 ton pickup by not using the parking brake every time you park it. And I thought the Tundra is hands-down the most well built 1/2 ton on the market??

    And no, I don't care that this is a "Tundra only" thread!
  • f1julesf1jules Posts: 288
    I know this is a Tundra topic. I also happen to be a very happy owner of a 2000 Toyota Tundra. I was merely commenting on that very small portion of your post where you mention GMC and Chevy-didn't mean anything personal by it either.

    I would never never never buy anything made by GM. I think their quality control is poor to horrible at best and would not take the chance with my hard earned money.

    Hill-Sure there are people who CLAIM that they own perfectly flawless chevies but there are many many many others who own perfectly f'd up lemons manufactured by GM. These facts are proven time after time by the consumer reporting industry also. Look at the number of posts in the silverado problems topic compared to the number of posts here. Does that tell you something? Read through some of those posts; you'll see people with transmission failures, major engine problems and even dash fires. Read through this thread and you'll find problems like, brake vibrations, windows that rattle and slow seat belt retractors. Tell me, which vehicle would you rather own? Don't bother to answer, you've made your choice we've made ours. Why don't you go help put out the dash fire of some poor chevy owner and spare us your diatribe on all the flawed Tundras you've "heard/read" about.
  • No offense, but I think you missed the point. So as far as you're concerned, it's perfectly acceptable to spend about 30 grand on a 1/2 ton pickup that reqires the parking brake to be set each time you park the truck or suffer brake damage??

    Frankly, with all of these well-documented brake problems from Tundras, I get a little nervous when I see one closing in behind me at a stop light!
  • ndahi12ndahi12 Posts: 235
    This pisses me off. First this is a TUNDRA topic. Go post about your great Chevy in the Chevy thread. OK.

    Second, the Tundra runs a drum rear unit. It has a star adjuster. I believe you need to use your parking brake to reset the brake bias front/rear.

    Third, even with drum brakes the Tundra has shorter stoping distances than the 4 disc brake rado that you have. Just read the numbers from truck trend or even from Edmunds.

    Fourth, there has been two recalls on Rado brakes in 99-2000 and none for the Tundra. There has been a TSB only for the Tundra.

    Fifth, pound for pound the Tundra has less problems than a Rado. It is documented. Look at all the TSBs and recalls for the rad vs. the Tundra. Do a search and you will find more TSBs/Recalls on the Rado than the Tundra. Read what Edmunds had to say about their long term experience with their Sierra. Pretty pathetic. There is a whole lemon site for Chevy truck owners and there is not one for the Tundra.

    Sixth, we have been through this before. Please stay away from our thread and we will stay away from yours.
  • ndahi12ndahi12 Posts: 235
    this is what one of the posters had to say in the Chevy rado problems thread.

    "My last Chevy truck trans lasted 40K easy no-tow miles. Cost $2325 to replace. Chevy dealer was so helpful to point out that if reliability was important to me, I should have bought a Toyota. Dealer was Bayside Chevrolet/Toyota in Prince Frederick, MD. I don't go there anymore, YMMV."

    A tranny that only lasts 40K. LMAO. And a dealer that tells their customer to go get a Toyota if they want reliability. ROTFLMAO.

    Reminds me of a story. When my GF went to buy a seat recliner latch to replace the broken one on her seat for the Explorer, she complained to the dealer that it broke way too early. The parts rep tells he "what do you expect, it is a Ford."
  • Im glad to hear that your truck is running virtually problem free. I've still decided on getting a Tundra and hope to have the same experience as you have, as well as Bama, Cowboy and a few others who are pretty satisfied with truck. Am I worried about whether its gonna pull more than Fords top of line monster ... not in the least. Not too concerned about some of the other numbers either.

    The truck is a little different than the rest and thats all I expect out of it. It seems to be a great truck for the uses that most of us use them for. If mine will stay reliable, quiet, and low maintenance, I'll be more than happy. If you've been using parking brake pretty regularly and no brake problems then I'll keep that in mind.

    The choice is pretty simple actually. If not the Tundra then what ??? Certainly not gonna get lost in those American trucks, their posts speak for themselves. My roomate has a Silverado and until recently I hadn't had the opportunity to experience why they're termed "Shakerados" . I've never been more nervous in a truck than when im in the rado and the brakes are applied, way too scary. Must say, I like the truck and plenty of room up front, but no thanks, think Toyota will be just fine.
  • eric2001eric2001 Posts: 482
    FYI: If you have the self-adjusting brakes (spring loaded lever on star adjuster) the proper way to adjust them is to get going about 10 mph in reverse, then slam on the brakes. I know it seems harsh, but that is how they were designed. Setting the parking brake does not adjust the brakes at all.

    On the other hand, it is a good idea to use your parking brake often, as it keeps the cables lubed, and it is there when you need it. Nothing worse than a 'frozen' brake cable and a locked up set of brakes.
  • Hi all,

    I'm a first time poster to this board. Have read both the good and bad stuff on the Tundra. Nothing too scary. I'm gonna possibly buy one tomorrow or this coming monday depending on if the deal is right. But I'm in no hurry. Has anyone gotten one for around invoice, aside from the newpaper ad cars? The best quote I've gotten over the phone is $400 over invoice. The guy somewhat indicated that it was negotiable.

    I'm pretty much sold on the Tundra for my next truck. My current workhorse is a Nissan hardbody and while it has served me well and never let me down, I'd like a bit more truck.

    For awhile now, I considered the Chevy Silverado, Ford F150, and the Tundra. All of them at one time or another became a leading contender in my mind. All of them, in my opinion have strengths. And they all have weaknesses. But for me, the Tundra has more pluses that minuses.

    Anyhoo, I hope I don't have to raise my blood pressure too high haggling for a good enough deal at the car store. I always hate spending the 5-7 hours it take to buy a vehicle. I zaps away the whole day.
  • ndahi12ndahi12 Posts: 235
    I would not pay more than 1% over invoice. A lot of people are getting their trucks at invoice. I have heard that toyota is running a 2.9% special financing but I do not know the details. I got my truck for for 1% over invoice and then I got a $100 gift certificate to Home Depot. I got 4.9% financing for 60 months back when they were running the 0%.

    I know the issues of the Tundra and I will list them:

    Cramped rear space
    Bed needs to be an 1-2 inch deeper
    Soft stock shocks, at least for me
    Cold start up clatter
    Warpped rotors on the 2000 and some 2001
    Thin paint
    No gas door latch inside the truck. That one really pisses me off.
    Occasional tranny thunk when you come to an abrupt stop. Lubing the drive shaft that exits the tranny seems to solve the problem.

    I honestly cannot think of anything else. Gas mileage will average 15 mpg. I tow with my truck and I drive 75-80 on the frwy and still get 15 mpg. I do not think that is bad considering my driving style.

    So far I am very satisfied with the truck.
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,065
    Well I can think of one. Is the pistons in the Tundra cast or forged?
  • Here's the question I asked initially:

    "So as far as you're concerned, it's perfectly acceptable to spend about 30 grand on a new 1/2 ton pickup that reqires the parking brake to be set each time you park the truck or suffer brake damage??"


    It's a simple yes or no question. Does Toyota put that parking brake info in their owner's literature, or do you have to figure that out on your own?


    And since YOU bought up relative braking performance versus GM trucks, here's the Edmunds data:

    http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/43902/page015.html

    As you can see, the Tundra stopped in a whopping six feet shorter span. That's the distance of an average man's height compared against the total distance of about half of a football field. Big deal. The Silverado weighs a little more, so that's to be expected. I'll take that and keep my brakes, which won't turn into scrap metal if I forget to set the parking brake!!

  • i hope you never hit a pothole or rough area on the road when you are braking because if you do more than likely you will be in for a thrill
  • arkie6arkie6 Posts: 198
    "FYI: If you have the self-adjusting brakes (spring loaded lever on star adjuster) the proper way to adjust them is to get going about 10 mph in reverse, then slam on the brakes. I know it seems harsh, but that is how they were designed. Setting the parking brake does not adjust the brakes at all."

    The rear brakes don't work that way on a Tundra. The Tundra does use rear drum brakes with a toothed wheel adjuster to maintain the shoes in close proximity to the drum; however, backing up does nothing to rotate the toothed wheel on the adjuster like on older Chevies. On the Tundra, appling the parking brake rotates the toothed wheel on the adjuster if needed. It looks similar to the Chevy brakes, but works a little bit differently.

    And contrary to a previous post, it is not necessary to use your parking brake every time you park. Using it once a month or so is likely enough to keep the rear shoes properly adjusted since the rear brakes don't wear nearly as fast as the front brakes.

    I believe most of the problems with the warping rotors and drums on the Tundra are due to the brake pad materials used. Due to government regulations surrounding health concerns with asbestoes, asbestoes has been removed from brake pads and linings, and brake manufacturers just haven't come up with a suitable replacement material that is on par with asbestoes as far as performance and cost are concerned. If you take a look through Edmunds townhall, you will see many complaints on all different makes of vehicles regarding warped brake rotors. Another contributer to the potential for front brake rotor warping on the Tundra is its use of 4 piston front calipers (the industry standard is 2 piston calipers on the front except for high end sports cars). These calipers can generate a tremendous amount of pressure and along with that comes heat (these 4 piston front calipers are also likely the reason the Tundra stops in a shorter distance than most if not all other pickups). Another thing to consider is the rear brake proportioning valve. If it is not properly set and you have too much front brake bias then this would be putting more stress and strain on the front brakes. The factory service manual has a detailed procedure for checking the brake bias, but I doubt most dealers would go to this trouble. It is just a whole lot easier to change pads and rotors and get you out of the shop hopefully until after your warranty expires. Another thing is that if you artificially raise or lower the rear of the truck, you will affect brake bias because the Tundra uses a load sensing proportioning valve. It measures the distance from the rear axle to the frame and increases rear brake bias as the distance between the two decreases (as would be indicated with increased load in the bed or on the bumper). If you raise the back of the truck with a lift (lift blocks, stiffer springs, helper springs, etc.) and do not adjust the proportioning valve linkage accordingly, you will reduce rear brake bias and shift more braking pressure to the front wheels even though the load on the truck has not changed.

    So far, knock on wood, I have 27,500 miles on my 2000 Tundra 4x4 and have no indications of front brake rotor warping (and I still have all of the original brake components installed).

    Alan
  • f1julesf1jules Posts: 288
    I have 30,000 miles on my Tundra and it has been to the dealership exactly once for the brake vibration problem (around 10,000 miles). The problem was more an annoyance than anything though. In no way did the truck ever feel unsafe. Toyota finished the repairs in a couple hours and I haven't had the problem since.

    I don't use the parking brake everytime I park. I use it when I park on a hill or in my driveway which is sloped (I only park there to wash the truck and occassionally when I'm not parked in my garage).

    "So as far as you're concerned, it's perfectly acceptable to spend about 30 grand on a new 1/2 ton pickup that reqires the parking brake to be set each time you park the truck or suffer brake damage??"

    So hill, to answer your question, no, it's not okay but I don't know of any Tundra owners who a) paid $30 grand for their truck and/or b) are required to set the parking brake each time they park or suffer brake damage. Sorry but the facts do not support your statement.

    I paid a little over $23k for my 2000 Tundra SR-5. I didn't get leather or 4x4. I have most of the other options though. MSRP was roughly $26,400.

    I would never pay MSRP for a vehicle.
  • f1julesf1jules Posts: 288
    Man, I just read through 20 or so posts on the silverado problems thread and I actually feel sorry for some of those people. What a sorry-assed truck that silverado is.

    Reminds me of a guy I used to work with. He has a fullsize Chevy conversion van and his transmission went out at 40,000 miles. Cost him about $2,000 to have it rebuilt. What a rip off.

    How do you defend a company that manufactures junk like that? Why do people defend them? I guess if you only plan on keeping the thing for 2 years or you might be okay. Maybe that's how these people rationalize their purchase.
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