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Volvo V40 - Information & Experiences

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  • padgettpadgett Posts: 4
    rlmingo,
    I agree with you..never know when you might actually get something you ask for. In my opinion, the V40 is sportier than the V70. The look and feel of the car is quite athletic. Performance matches with the turbo also. GLT and T versions of the V70 are quick too, but the V40 is quick and has quite a different look...more European to me.

    As for Cujo, you should have enough room if you take out the cargo shelf (should you get a goody package with one as per my earlier post). The dealer tells me (and it looks to be the case upon inspection) that there is a 7% space difference between the 40 and the 70. The cargo area is a bit shorter, but it seems the "biggest" difference in space comes from the rounded and sloped roof-line near the rear hatch on the 40 versus the higher, squared roof-line on the 70.

    I thought the 40 had plenty of space for the athletic equipment, the dog, or the occasional haul of camping equipment or groceries.

    Speaking of sporty, I haven't seen the V40 decked out with the sports package (rear spoiler and fog lights) yet, or the sport-plus package, but I suspect that would add to the sporty look of the car.

    Also, for those of you interested in price, I saw a quote from Ohio for $800 above invoice, but that was on a base with no package or option ad-ons. I suspect (and will find out shortly how much)that a more loaded version currently commands a higher margin. I heard also that some people are paying MSRP in markets where the supply is virtually non-existent as of yet.
  • mcohenmcohen Posts: 21
    Out in California, there are none available yet. I drove the S40 and was laso impressed. There is no turbo lag.

    I would get one, but I need a new job (if padgett get get what he asked for, why can't I :) ).
  • Padgett,

    I am curious about the 7% difference in space in the the V70 vs the V40 because I have read many references on this site that compare the V40 to the Audi 4 Avant...and most comparisons between the Audi A4 and the V70 are like David & Goliath!
    I agree the real difference is in the slope of the roof and the curve of the back hatch. the closest dealer to me (Los Angeles area) has only one S40 on disply and none to drive. The salesman has already taken a deposit for one coming in and expects some wagons in next week. I am getting serious about giving up the Grand Cherokee for a wagon but worry about the V40's "Audi like size" and only 4 cylinders. Whats your car like loaded down trudging up a steep hill? And do you have the optional traction control?
  • domaticdomatic Posts: 3
    I can't seem to find good specifications on the V40 ( cargo capacity. etc.) Does anyboy have these? How does it compare to the Audi A4, VW Passat and Subaru Forrester?

    I plan to test drive the V40 this afternoon.

    Thanks
  • padgettpadgett Posts: 4
    jgoodman,
    I haven't actually taken delivery of my V40 yet, it's on the way. However, given your situation (currently with the Grand Cherokee), I have these comments.

    First, I wouldn't worry about the 4. It's a turbo and has a great deal more pickup and given the torque difference a better chance of making quick work of the hill than our base V70 5 cyl fully loaded. However, we don't have a hill around here (Mississippi delta coutry) to test this on so you're on your own on that one. Hence, no need of the traction control since if it snows here it means a really hot place has frozen over and we have bigger concerns if you catch my meaning.

    However, that said, if you have a Grand Cherokee because you haul a bunch of adults on long trips in the back (I have no idea of the rear space for a Cherokee), the V40 may be smaller in the rear seating than you want. I have kids who would normally occupy the back seat if we went on a long trip so the 3 inches shorter leg room between the V40 and the V70 isn't an issue for me. Same thing with the head room difference from the sloped roofline.

    Cargo Space:
    One problem you'll have comparing "cargo space" is that some reports spec cargo space as the total area floor to roof in the wagon, while other reports include only the useful space below site line (only the area below the hatch window and seat). Still others, especially for the SUVs use a maximum cargo space spec that measures basically the entire area behind the front seats. Here are the V70 and V40 Specs for "cargo capacity" from the Volvo brochures:

    V70 33.9 cubic feet (seat up)
    V70 69.0 cubic feet (seat down)

    V40 30.2 cubic feet (seat up)

    Sitting our V70 next to the V40 I can say there is a difference in width and length for the seating areas and the cargo area. However, while this does make a difference for the occasional piece of plywood, it really doesn't hamper the weekend trip or the trip to the grocery store. You can pile a good bit of "stuff" in the back of the V40. My suggestion is for anyone interested in "cargo space" to take a "normal" load of luggage or your bike or whatever with you when you go test drive the V40 (& competition). Then you can see exactly what the real difference is for you for cargo space and for hauling with a load.

    Finally, I can't say much about driving a V40 vs. a Cherokee since I've never had a Cherokee. Why were you considering the V40 instead of a Cherokee (i.e. what did you want from a wagon that you feel is missing in the Cherokee)?
  • domaticdomatic Posts: 3
    Padgett,

    Excellent info provided above. As for me I have been looking at sport utes for the last year. Had my hopes on the Nissan Exterra, just the right size and price. Well the price wasn't right ( in my opinion) and I think it is underpowered.

    I am leaning toward a Dodge Durango but gas mileage and reliability scare me. I drove it and liked it and it does have the cargo capacity and towing.

    A wagon still provides plenty of cargo space, not in Durango league but almost in Grand Cherokee league. The wagon will be more fun to drive ( I'm stuck getting an automatic, daughter won't learn how to drive a stick!) Gas mileage will be much better. I'l give up the towing capabilities.

    But driving a Volvo says a little more than driving a Durango.
  • padgettpadgett Posts: 4
    Otto,
    Did you drive the V40 as planned? What did you think? Also, why a sport-ute?
  • zebomanzeboman Posts: 1
    It seems that most dealers in my area will only sell the V40, regardless of trim level, at MSRP. DOes anyone know a dealer willing to work a bit on price?
  • domaticdomatic Posts: 3
    I'm torn betwen the these becuase I am looking for something I can put some cargo in as well as some light/medium towing capabilities.

    I also need a vehicle with an automatic. I have a teen age daughter who is just learning to drive and wants no part of a manual tranny. Both of our vehicles are currently 5-speeds and I struggle with the thought of going back to an automatic.

    The ute gives both (towing and cargo) but poor gas mileage and overall size are the disadvantages. Daughter may find this thing difficult to drive. But a V8 will give it some pep. The Nissan Xterra was going to be my savior but IMO it is overpriced and underpowed, with the auto anyway.

    A wagon will give me some cargo room and perhaps some light towing with the advantage of good gas mileage and better handling. The powerplant will determine the performance.

    Yes, the VW Passat my be the ideal solution but they seem to be very rare and I will not pay sticker for a VW. I owned a VW Jetta GLI (1986)and loved it but reliability and resale value still seem to be an issue with the VW's.

    I didn't drive the V40. Both the V40 and S40 looked wonderful to me. I would pay sticker for the Volvo's at this point in the game.

    I don't now if I would call the V40 a glorified hatchback.

    Somebody please stop me, but I have actually looked at a few used mini-vans!

    Still debating....
  • nedzelnedzel Posts: 787
    Passat wagons are somewhat scarce, but people seem to be getting them for quite a bit less than MSRP. So I wouldn't let that hold you back. And at least it is available with a 5spd, unlike the V40.
  • akowenakowen Posts: 1
    I just test drove a V40. I really liked it and am seriously considering it for my next car. I am almost ready to go buy one!

    At the same time I do have a concern. I am afraid an 3 adults and a child may not be comfortable on a long trip. I also drove a Passat and liked its automatic better. Next time I plan on test driving the V40 with the automatic in sport mode.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,407
    Is the car for you or your daughter? If it is for you buy the manual - she will learn to drive a stick if she wants to borrow the car. :)
  • I drove a V40 earlier this week and was pretty impressed. Adequate size, nice styling, generous standard features. Good acceleration due to the light pressure turbo. My wife has an 850 and it honestly doesn't feel quite as 'substantial' or 'solid' as hers does. Wouldn't say it feels shoddy or cheap, but overall isn't finished quite as nice (carpets aren't as flush, doors don't feel as heavy, etc). But for $5K+ less than a comparably equiped V70, it seems to be good value...and I want one!

    The bad news is that dealers in Mass/Nh seem to be from the few I've spoken to charging MSRP. The few on the lot I've seen are also loaded with the leather/sunroofs/sport packg, etc to come in at $28-$29K. According to the sales rep, come Dec/Jan when the supply is constant and some of the early pent up demand is over, then he would be selling for more like $500 over invoice (or about $1000 under sticker). I guess I can wait 3 more months...but it's going to be tough.
  • I have a question regarding the purchase of a Volvo:

    I have a Driver Edge credit card with some "Ford" credits. Can I use those credits to purchase a Volvo? (Volvo is now owned by Ford...)
  • My wife and I test drove the three today. We found that the Forester was rather cheap in the upholstery, seat comfort and back seat legroom. The OB was definitely more comfortable with better legroom. Then.........we drove the S40(the dealer didn't have a V40, which is what we would like). Wow! What a difference is workmanship, drivability and feel. I currently own my sixth Volvo, and I haven't been disappointed yet. Volvo seats practically sell the car. I did not like the options only being available in a "package". The salesman did say he might be able to get a sunroof, and the TRACS ordered separately, but we didn't get that far, as we weren't ready to actually order. I'd still like to drive the V40 to compare. Anyone out there compare the two? Also, has anyone out there compared the Subaru Legacy (not the OB) AWD with the front wheel drive Volvo? We do a lot of winter driving as we go up to the ski areas quite a bit. Would the V40 be as safe as the AWD Subaru? One more query......Anyone know of any Volvo dealers willing to negotiate in the NW (we live in Portland, OR)? Thanks for your help.
  • Well we just bought the V40. My goodness what a car! We've been searching for some time now, and have really had a fun time, but didn't find everything we wanted till this car. Here's my impressions:

    value -- this car had more standard features on the base model than any other car for the same price. Surprising how we only had to add the $850 weather package as our options (we live in Buffalo, NY). On the Passat and Forester, we would have been adding more options (making it more difficult to find, and a long wait)

    performance -- the turbo in this thing was unnoticeable. Our other car is a Prelude so we have high expectations for performance, especially from a wagon. Well this car met them. The Passat with a turbo definitely has a lag, but the V40 had great acceleration off the line. The sport mode makes lots of fun to drive, but adds a little bit of additional noise in low gears. In economy mode, the noise was gone and the car still accelerated better than the Passat turbo. The car handled wonderfully, had a solid road feel, but with a comfortable ride over the rough roads where I drove it.

    The car looks pretty sharp too, classy but not boxy like the V70s, and definitely not trucklike (I like the looks of the Forester, but I think in 10 years the SUVs are going to look dated)

    Room and comfort: I am 6'4 and find it hard to get enough leg and head room. Sadly the headroom reqmt often rules out moonroofs -- as it did on this car, but the moonroof comes with the leather seats as a package, and we preferred the feel of the cloth seats. Volvo seats are just heaven. Legroom in the Forester S was not good enough to spend $24k to $25k for me. It would've been too annoying for any length of trip. Passat had much better leg room, and the V40 was about equal to it. Cargo room is the same in the Forester and V40, Passat has more, but is a much heavier car--slower with a 4 cyl -- too expensive with a 6. Safety features on Volvos and the peace of mind of knowing how long Volvos last were also major factors in the decision.

    Availability -- Forester and VW were both impossible to find -- dealers quoted long waits and no guarantees of getting exactly what you wanted. With the Volvo dealer we may have just lucked out -- we looked in the showroom at the loaded V40, then described the options we probably wanted and that we'd like to drive one. When the salesperson brought out one to drive, it happened to be the perfect one for us -- options, the blackberry color, interior. We drove it then started dealing. Only thing we didn't get was the CD player but it comes with the touring package and we didn't want to pay for that. We paid about $800 under MSRP after some haggling. We enjoyed the experience with the dealer: they treated us intelligently and honestly.

    Overall this car just was a great value for the money. Compared to other cars that come in with prices $24 to $25k, it just had more stuff, more comfort, fun, and security, and a great reputation. Sorry this is so long... Hope this info can help others the way others have helped me.
  • cheap5cheap5 Posts: 2
    Have test driven all three. The V40 rear window thing is a bit weird, but the pick up and handling are great. Like the list of inclusions too. However, told by dealer that all cars in Northeast are shipped with cold weather package, an $850MSRP option that includes heated seats, TRACS, DSA and wiper washer system for headlights. Seems like it could be tough to get a base car without all kinds of add ons. Price quote is pretty much everything at MSRP. Did not push as still test driving and not ready to negotiate. Do not get the sense they will move much. Has anyone out there found same/different experience with pricing. Was also told that there may be shortage of metallic paint. Orders currently placed cannot be changed to metallic.

    2000 Subaru Legacy is a strong contender because more economically priced, has AWD, cheaper to service. However, ride isn't as smooth, found manual tranny to be awkward and automatic zigzag layout just plain strange. Would serve the purpose and be reliable, but doesn't have the look or the pizazz of the other entries. Ruled out OB, as it's looking too big, but the price comparison to the Volvo is similar.

    Saturn 2000 LW2 was a surprise. The engine supplies lots of power(v6 auto should!)with good pick up. Have to confess pushing it to try to get some hesitation, which I did, but that did not consistently happen. Nice handling with good turning and cornering. Smoother ride than the Subaru. Not the Volvo but close, and from an American car! ABS and traction control would be add-ons, as would leather and heated seats. But all the other stuff from keyless entry, alarm, heated side mirrors, fog lamps, AM/FM stereo/cassette and CD with 8 speakers, etc.etc, are standard. That's a lot of car for a no haggle price of $21,900 - and that includes conveyance! It's a big one though at 190.4 inches long! Also first year of model so unknown on service. Heard mixed reviews regarding the cars overall. Anything to share on this?

    My heart probably wants the Volvo, but my head and my wallet may dictate one of the others, especially with interest rates on loans creeping up there!
  • I called my local dealer today and the V40 is available through the overseas delivery program. You basically get the car for invoice price which includes customs, duty, and delivery to your local dealer. In my area, the car comes through Jacksonville, Fl and then on a covered truck to my dealer in Atlanta. I feel pretty confident that I would get a quality car from the factory because I could inspect the car myself just as I could if I bought it at a local dealer. The question I have is has anyone had bad experiences with the shipping process in terms of damage to the car. I know all cars are shipped this way, but you own the car when it is shipped and are responsible for the damage. Volvo makes you purchase marine insurance which would cover the cost of repairs, but I would not want a new car to be damaged with no recourse but to repair it. This process would save me $1000 to $2000 dollars depending on the deal I could get by the car state side which the dealers are not budging from MSRP.
  • Test drove the V40 yesterday. Dealer olny allowed a brief drive in the city, no freeway test yesterday. I was most interested in the freeway driving to test for road and wind noise. Drove the Mazda MPV yesterday too and heard lots of noise. What can others tell me about the noise on the freeway?
  • Purchased the 2000 V40 a week ago. WOW what a great car!! This is our first Volvo and it is the best. The leather seats are almost as comfortable as my recliner. Can't wait to got a long drive in it.

    The dealship in Fort Collins Colorado was the best, even got a free diner out of them!!

    The car is Volvo through and through. The wagon is loaded, all options installed, was able to get them at $300 below MSRP.

    Found the road and wind noise on the freeway mimimal at best.

    Pluses:
    Huge glove compartment
    Engine power
    Volvo safety
    Comfortable seating
    Mileage is decent, seems it could be more since it's only a 4 cyl.

    Negative:
    Not a LOT of storage for stuff
    Shallow door pockets
    Steering wheel seems too close to dash
    Stereo is upgraded but still seems to be lacking in punch

    Just my .02. Love the car overall!!

    Greg
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