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Jaguar XJ-Series

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  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    What would you like Jag to do? They have fixed every defect, I understand, under warranty. That's the contract. You want them to buy it back? They will - at lease end. The car's a lemon - but unless the owner has sued under the lemon law, Jag seems to have done what every other company pretty much does in this case - fix the car.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,305
    I would like Jag to take that particular vehicle back to their R & D for quality study.

    I would accept another pre owned XJ8 considering the miles on the Lemon as a replacement.

    Jag issued a sub standard unit & needs to cover their errors with more than the usual warranty as this particular vehicle is very unusual.

    Side comment: Makes your decision to buy the MB all the more valuable.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    If Jaguar determined any of these defect to pose a threat to the owner via a safety problem, they would take it back and tear it apart - and, they would provide a NEW comparable XJ to the owner, no money changing hands with the existing loan with Ford Credit staying in place as is, unless the owner wanted to upgrade the model. If there wasn't an XJ to the customer's liking on the lot at the dealership, Jag would make one for him and ship it, and give him a loaner for the interim. Yes, they are that good about these things - it happened to a friend of mine. He happened to want to upgrade a bit, so a deal was struck for the difference, but I've never seen anybody step up better.

    The problems with this particular Jag seem not to be safely related, just annoying. A car company doesn't really have an obligation to take back every car from dissatisfied customers - that's not what the warranty provides. It says they'll fix the defects. They've done that. That's what I'm saying.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,305
    No argument with your points.

    It's just that I feel there should be some compensation for enduring extensive post production corrective repairs to the car. A buyer of such a high quality automobile deserves much better than being a victim of chronic failures. His highly unusual list of complaints is deserving of more service than sticking to the warranty.

    I know, "No Charge for the Inconvenience!"
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Oh, I agree, and I hope he always got a no haggle, no charge loaner for his downtime, and I hope the dealer did him some favors along the way too. My Lincoln dealer used to - before they were bought out - now my friends there are all gone, but 2, and one more is retiring in a couple of months. I know nobody in service anymore. It's one reason, I'm not buying another Navigator.
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    That edmunds article says all 2006 XJs get a mesh grille. Only the 2006 Super V8 Portfolio, 2006 Super V8, 2006 XJR, and 2006 Vanden Plas get a mesh grille.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,305
    "What do you think?

    I think it makes a low mileage 04 XJ8 look very good priced @ 40k. :D
  • Fantastic link, thanks.

    While I'll defer to XKSS on this, I don't seem much difference between the Portfolio and the SuperV8. Sure, its got the Callum power vents, an even nicer interior, etc. but it is not a huge step up. Wouldn't it have been nice if Jag had talked AM into giving them a detuned V12 and talked Volvo into calling Haldex to supply for all of 2K an AWD system? Then it would really go head to head with the S Class V12 and win.
  • Can the 04 Alpine stereo be upgraded to accept XM and ipod?
  • I am looking at buying an XJ8 VP, 1999 with 71k miles. I am told "There are two cylinders that appear to be low when cold and as a result low speed performance is impaired"

    Can you shed some light on this for me and what I could expect in repair costs?

    Thanks :confuse: :confuse: :confuse: :confuse: :confuse:
  • So no one knows about 04 XJRs and ipods, etc?

    ek
  • I'm driving a Super V8 with only 3000 mi. It is a magnificent car to drive. I don't have a single sign of a mechanical defect. What is starting to occur, however, is a creaking at the roofline above the windows, centered on both center posts, that occurs whenever the body is flexed.
    It happens when I drive on rough roads or when I drive off a curb or driveway edge. Anything that isn't flat and smooth causes an annoying creaking above my left ear and in the same place on the right side of the car. I'm about to take it to the dealer, having just returned from out of the country.
    Has anyone else experienced this phenominon? If so, what was it and what was the fix?
    I'd appreciate any advice anyone out there can give.....other than "why in hell did you buy a Jag."
    This one drives great, everything works, but it creaks.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,305
    I too admire the XJ8 so understand your choice of motorcars.

    Question: Is the creak the sound of metal to metal or some other material i.e. plastic, wood, or rivits under pressure
    as the body twists in angling a driveway?
  • Anyone awake? This board is positively sleepy. When I look at cars.com for realworld asking prices on '04 XJ and XJR sedans, I see about a 15K difference. That is, an '04 XJ can be had for 39K or so (asking) and the R version is still above 50K. This is about the same price spread as on day one when they rolled off the showroom floor. This tells me that the R Series really holds its value. Similarly, the '04 Vanden Plas (admittedly, there were not many sold in '04) also commands a premium close to if not equal to the price difference when it was sold two model years ago. I was hoping that these initial premiums would be receding and converging with the price of a plain jane XJ. (Hey, I can hope, can't I?)

    Am I misreading this and the small number of used Rs skews this?
  • pops2pops2 Posts: 6
    I purchased a 2003 XJR, platinum ext, w/blk interior from a Jaguar Dealership 7 months ago. At the time of purchase the car only had 12,404 miles (one owner) and now has 14,324 miles. I also have a 2003 BMW 330CI and 2003 Mercedes Benz E320 that we use as daily drivers. I wanted the 03 Jag because i've always admired them for their beauty and grace and thought the 04 XJ's look too much like a ford product. For the most part, the XJ is used on special occasions and before buying my Jag, i've research this site and read many other articles on my vehicle. The biggest fault I find and have read other similar complaints is that this vehicles interior parts seemed to have been made from very cheap plastic. Although the car only has 14,324 miles and is a CPO, i have taken it back to the dealership for interior/ext trim parts. The parts were replaced because they had looked worn out. Although, the car has sat in my garage, i've had to take it back again because the turn signal ticker stopped working, as well as, all warning chimes. The dealership here in SCal is fantastic in working out the bugs, however, my BMW 330CI which cost much less than the Jag is far better crafted. I find it hard to believe that the UK can market a car with such poor quality and far behind than other premium vehicles. I love this vehicle, and I expected my these problems to arise. However, i would have been far more disappointed if i've paid MSRP when the vehicle was new. All the fairly new X types that i've driven while my car was in the shop for minor repairs had obvious defects. Again, I love my Jag, but I will never consider buying a new one.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,305
    Appreciate your comments. We are original owners of 94 Lincoln Town Car and have been considering replacing it with a low mileage '04 XJ8. Here's my one question.

    Would you have purchased your Jag if the nearest dealer was 50 miles away from your home? :)
  • pops2pops2 Posts: 6
    No! I would not have purchased my Jag if the dealership was 50 miles away from my home. I am very lucky that my Jag Dealership is 10 miles from where i live. Its definitely not like a Honda or Toyota. Although it has never broken down on me, from my research and experience, it is a car that requires special attention to keep it in prestine condition. I have two other premium vehicles and there is no better feeling than driving a Jag. Its a special connection that i don't get from my MB or BMW.
  • Pops2, you sure have a fleet of '03s! Most people that I know ladder their cars with a 11year old s***box with 120K on the odometer holding the bottom positon and then moving up to top out with something a year or two old.
  • pops2pops2 Posts: 6
    2003 was the first year of the new MB E320's. I fell in love with the body style and had to have one. My 03 BMW will be traded for a 2006 BMW 325XI wagon i have on order due to arrive in mid Jan 06. I Can't wait :)
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