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  • vusicvusic Posts: 53
    Your Carnival Red looks great also.
    I would have liked to have known about TX Mustang sales during the process (maybe I should have studied this forum more closely). I purchased the car from Expo Motorcars in Houston. The car was sold originally in the Ft. Worth/Dallas area according to Carfax.
    I agree, Carfax is a great tool.
    Quick question: Carfax only accepts an exact 17(?) digit VIN. Since I can check as many cars as I wish for a two month period for my $19.95 (money extremely well spent), I tried to check some of the other vehicles I own. I found that some of the older ones ('77 back) do not have the proper amount of digits so Carfax will not accept the entry. Is there a way around this, or is it an issue of the age of the cars?

    Dave
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    It's been my experience that much after the last 80s.. Carfax starts getting a tad unreliable.

    I tried running my Vauxhall Velox through carfax, # PASY108534 (Try it if you like :)

    No dice. Apparently it doesnt take cars before 1980 IIRC.

    Heck, I wish I could get 2 months for $20... I pay $10 a report with a minumum bill of $50 a month.

    Still, it's on every used car they sell out of my franchise. My idea. Gee, for $10 a car allof a sudden its' a lot easier to sell those cars! :)

    I've seen expo motorcars, and I think I saw your car sell. Nice car, I bet you did well pricewise too from what I see. Looks like they're the typical independent. Buy car at auction, clean it, mark it up $2,500, slap it on eBay and flip it in a week. Versus the dealer's Buy it at auction, inspect it, detail it, slap brakes and tires on it and warranty, mark it up $7K, slap it on lot.

    IMHO, ya bought the car smart.

    Bill
  • vusicvusic Posts: 53
    The Vauxhall wouldn't run, not enough digits.
    With some of the classics out there, ignorance can be bliss. I've owned a couple of Old Brits that I would have never purchased if the pragmatic side of my brain new their history. I love them now though.
    I must have gotten some introductory offer on Carfax. Of course, I'm dealing with the depreciation side of the car business, not the "for profit" side. Carfax must have taken the government approach to billing.......your ability to pay.
    They treated me very well at Expo, even after they had the money in the bank they kept the car inside during the rains down there. I'm reserving a total endorsement until I receive the car but the indicators are the right car at a great price. I was just a hair north of center 30's.
    I appreciate your exchange and will let you know how the car is once I receive it at the end of this week.
    I'll also keep in touch with the "spirited" exchanges on the new "X" series page.

    Regards,
    Dave
  • 97vdpguy97vdpguy Posts: 111
    I tried playing with my "A-Scan" button on my radio the other day. The manual says this is supposed to load the six strongest stations into the radio's buttons as a temporary setting. It's to be used when you drive out of your home area to reprogram your radio.

    However, when I press mine, the radio display just says "No FM". None of the buttons are programmed. I tried pressing the SCAN button while it was in this mode. It cycled through the dial, locking on stations, but it failed to program anything.

    Has anyone successfully programmed their radio this way?

    Also, it appears my Automatic Volume Control (AVC) does not work. If I hold the volume button in, the radio "beeps" and the display reads "AVC ON", but no matter what the road noise level, the radio volume never gets louder.

    I didn't check this when I bought the car but I had a CD changer installed afterwards. Is it possible I have some loose or unconnected leads off my radio?

    Thanks!
  • arcoatesarcoates Posts: 221
    I know that in my Jaguar with the speed volume it is dependant upon speed, not interior noise levels. When I hit 60 kph, it will go up a little louder. If I go hit the brake and go to 59 kph, it will lower again. Maybe you haven't driven fast enough to engage it, if you're driving around town.~ A.R.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Vusic,

    Well, I think they know they have a more permanent market with us :)

    97vdpguy: Hold the "A MEM" Button in until it beeps. Hitting it once gives you 6 extra presets which you have to tune in. If you DO Hold the A-Mem button in until it beeps it'll reset the a-mem stations tho.

    In the 95/97 I have the FM set up like this:
    (Orlando/Tampa/Melbourne FL Stations... Your Mileage May Vary)
    1) 93.3
    2) 95.3
    3) 96.5
    4) 98.9
    5) 101.1
    6) 101.5

    A-Mem 1) 101.9
    A-Mem 2) 104.1
    A-Mem 3) 105.1
    A-Mem 4) 105.9
    A-Mem 5) 106.7
    A-Mem 6) 107.1

    In the 97, My dad drives it a lot. So on the 6 presets he has his NPR Drivel, classical and oldies. I have the A-Mem stations.

    This way I get to program all the stations I listen to. In the XJR I just hit the seek button on the steering wheel but that can't be reverse-engineered into X300s >:(

    As far as the AVC Goes, it ought to work. You have to listen carefully. 40, 70 and I think 100 MPH are the step-up points. I remember it getting louder over 100 or 120. Although I don't suggest doing that to test the radio :)

    Bill
  • 97vdpguy97vdpguy Posts: 111
    Bill and Arcoates:

    ..but honest, officer.. I was just adjusting my radio!

    Thanks for the pointers. I'll try them both out (with the exception of the 100MPH test). I could have sworn that the manual said the radio programmed itself with the six strongest FM stations. But the fact that there are no presets in those A-Mem locations would explain why the display reads NO FM when I put it into that mode.

    Thanks
  • 97vdpguy97vdpguy Posts: 111
    Today at lunch, I took a group of folks out and while I was driving, decided to let the rear seat passengers marvel at the Grey Poupon shelves mounted on the back of the front seats. I instructed the rear passenger to "pull on the tray" to get to move into position.

    Well, he pulled.. Took the screws holding the tray right out of the back of the drivers seat!

    Hopefully, the holes aren't stripped.

    Next time I put a visitor in the back, I'll personally demonstrate the tray table function.

    Do people really eat back there?
  • arcoatesarcoates Posts: 221
    Those tray tables are more of a novelty than anything else. About the only thing they are good for is writing a cheque out at the country club when you lose at golf! Honestly, i think it is purely a novelty. But, I sure wish I had them on my XJ6!!!~ A.R.
  • christchurchchristchurch Posts: 125
    Bill, I really apprectiate the advice you gave to my lastest query regarding the 1997 XJ 6.
    It helped immensly. I passed it along to my friend and I think he will join our ranks as a Jaguar "nut". I saw the car and she really is a beauty in that lush red color. Thanks, too, for the picture of your "lady". You two will be the envy of all who look in your direction.

    Thanks, too, Bill, and all our Jag friends for all the insightful comments on this XJ site.
    When I originated this discussion some months ago I never anticipated that this would be one of the most active on the web. Horay for our Jags and those who love them!

    I am happy we are seeing notes each day from "new members of our web and Jaguar family".

    Keep the good "times rolling". "Listen to them purr!"
    christchurch
  • ou814ou814 Posts: 12
    Bill,

    I have gone through all of the posts and I have a question. I am looking at a 1995 XJ6. The particulars are: 53,000 miles, traction control, CD changer, heated front seats, sunroof, Harmon Kardon stereo upgrade, Topaz/Oatmeal. I think all the other features are standard on all Jags. The guy is an independent dealer and is asking $18,900 and says he won't budge on the price. I will be having it inspected at the Jag dealer. The car looks extremely clean and drives excellent. Assuming all checks out well with the dealer, is $18,900 an OK price to pay? My research indicates it's not a "steal", but it does seem to be a fairly decent price.

    Thanks in advance for your help.

    Rick.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Christchurch: Always glad to help! Hope it works out for him... I am somewhat partialto the color myself :)


    ou814: It's not a total steal, but it is a very fair price. On one condition... the car is IMMACULATE. If it's a really nice car, and clean.. I could see that baby doing close to $17K at auction. It's Topaz, It's got harmon/kardon and weather pkg... And 53K on a '95.


    For a Jaguar to be worth all the money (I buy about 20 of them at month on a wholesale level) It has to have the four following charachteristics:


    1) Color combo. Oh, it's Black with Black Leather in FL? Bad. Topaz and White do the best.


    2) Equipment: No traction in CT? Uh Oh.


    3) Condition: Uhh, it's been painted down the side? Bad.


    4) Miles: Jags get slaughtered, valuewise, by high mileage


    So, that car could hit as much as $17K at auction. I've seen them do that recently if they're NICE. And that's the key. Make sure the wood is nice, that it shows little wear (A couple of cracks is normalish). Make sure the leather, carpets, chrome, etc.. that they're all there and nice. Make sure the power steering column works.


    Make sure it drives like it ought to.


    Follow this link too: http://www.vauxhallpa.50megs.com/paintwork.html


    read that.


    If it passes muster, tell him $18K cash, NOW. If that fails, try $18,500... But if you like it, $18,900 is a fair price for that car.


    Where are you located at? it makes a difference pricewise too.


    Bill

  • ou814ou814 Posts: 12
    The inside is immaculate. The leather looks brand new and the steering column along with everything else works. I read the info under your link before I looked at this car and it doesn't appear to have been repainted anywhere. The tires are in good condition. The only things I can find that I would classify as not being immaculate are 1) the wheels have a slight bit of curb rash on the edges. No big gouges but they have been rubbed along a curb, and 2) there are a few nicks along the sides. No apparent dents, just nicks.

    I live in Omaha, Nebraska and Jags are VERY difficult to find here. I have been to www.texas-cars.com and their prices are cheaper than here but I'm not so sure I want to drive all the way to Dallas to pick one up. The car I'm looking at is originally from Indiana. It was registered as a lease vehicle and then sold at auction with around 15K miles. Then registered as a lease vehicle again and sold at auction in December 2000 to the guy I'm dealing with now. It was owned by Jaguar leasing before this guy bought it. I got all this info from carfax and the guy I am dealing with. There is nothing negative about it on carfax.

    Thanks,

    Rick.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Ahh... Omaha. Prices on cars like that are the highest in the Midwest and Northeast.

    Carfax stuff all sounds normal, pretty typical really. The vast (And I mean vast) majority of these cars were leased. Right now, if you are in the market for an S-Type 3.0, buying it would be dumb. The lease is THAT good (.00050 Money factor.. 1.2% or so)

    It sounds clean, as long as it hasnt been smashed before... I'd say to go for it if you want to buy locally. I mean, The dealer in KC is very good, but they are expensive. the dealer in St Louis is VERY expensive..

    I mean, I'd sum it up this way. Price is fair. Jags are rarely sold for cheap as you may have found :) If you like the car and are comfortable with the car (It sure sounds nice... the door dings are about 50 each to get fixed, see if he'll at least do that much)...

    Go for it! I have 127,000 VERY hard miles on my '95 Vanden Plas and its' been 6 basically troublefree years (Uhh... check on your heater hoses...)

    Oh, before you buy it, price a new Camry. I'm not sure you can even get a nice one for 18,900 :)

    Bill
  • ou814ou814 Posts: 12
    I hear you on the Camry. That's why I'm here instead of at my local Toyota dealer. :-) I have always been a fan of Jags. My father has a 1978 Jag XJ12 with 45000 miles on it he would let me drive every once in a while. Between that car, his Mercedes and Porsche it was the Jag I loved the most. You get looks everywhere you go and the ride is incomparable to anything else. The new ones have improved greatly and you still get the stares. Everyone has a Mercedes, BMW or Lexus. A rare few have Jags. I have an appointment with the Jag dealer on Monday for the prepurchase inspection and if all checks out I will be a Jag owner on Monday. Is there anything I need to ask the dealer to look for? I have asked for a prepurchase inspection which he says takes about an hour and I have also asked for a compression test which he says takes about another hour. Thanks for all your help. I will keep you posted.

    Rick.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Oh!

    Have them check to see if the timing chain tensioner update has been done...

    Otherwise,... nothing I can think of. Who knows, if it was sold on a secondary lease, it may even have some Select Edition Coverage left! (Much more likely if it has a passenger glovebox.. indicating a later production car). Also make sure the lock cylinder in the trunklid works.

    Bill
  • christchurchchristchurch Posts: 125
    Bill, you mentioned in a previous post a "great lease deal" on an S series.
    What kind of deal are your referring to?
    Do you like the S series.?
    I have been reading mixed reviews about them but,I do love the looks.

    Just curious as to what you might advise on the S series and if anyone else has had some experience.

    Keep on "Jagin"
    christchurch
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Well,

    Typicla residuals... but nearly free money.

    I've seen $499/mo/36mos/10Kmi/yr/$2000 out of pocket advertised...

    Finance the $45K car at 8%... $2K out of pocket... $900mo/60 mos

    Not a bad deal IMHO!

    Personally, that being said, I think its' a great car. We have them in the family and the peopledriving them love them.

    Bill
  • christchurchchristchurch Posts: 125
    One further question.

    A couple of friends have been considering buying the XJ8. They are not in a hurry to trade up.
    They are wondering if they should wait for the new XJ which I understand will be "quite the cat".. newest technology and the latest in Jaguar/Ford engineering.

    What do you think... price, notwithstanding?
    christchurch
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Price notwithstanding, or withstanding. That car ought to be a world-beater.

    From everything I know so far... it's going to be one hell of a machine.

    But, probably 2 more years...

    Bill
  • pluskinpluskin Posts: 79
    brentwood, I was curious, since you seem to be a pretty big Jaguar XJ fan, and very knowledgeable as a customer and dealer. Let's say when I return to the US in a couple of years, I want to spend around $25K on a car (maybe $30K tops). If I were to get a used XJ for that kind of money (what would that be, like 3yrs old 60,000 miles?), what do you think I could really expect for an ownership experience, compared to buying a brand new car for $25K? Everyone seems to talk about how trouble free they can actually be and last practically forever but...this is something I would have to rely on for a daily driver. I would assume it would probably be a much higher level of maintenance I would have to do, and probably budget for costlier repairs. I don't know, would I be better off with a low mileage X-type?
  • dpl95xj6dpl95xj6 Posts: 7
    recently purchased a 95 xj6 in march of 01. Since then I have replaced the brake pads thou a reputable euro mechanic. in the last two weeks the brakes have begun squeaking when making slow stops or turns. the mechanic says there is no issue with the pads but the silicone backing was dried out. Thus the squeaking comes from the pad vibrating when making slow speed stops. has anyone else expereiced this problem? or the mechanic blowing smoke in my face?
  • keyrowkeyrow Posts: 214
    I am looking to purchase a second car and give my current Infiniti I30 to my daughter. I am considering replacing it with either a new I35, Lincoln LS or perhaps a used XJ8. While I really like the style of the Jag, not to mention the CLASS, what is the opinion of a used Jag vs. a new Infiniti (yes I know this is an apples to oranges comparison). What year Jag should I look at, condition, etc. I seek a purchase price of ~35K and any advise would be appreciated.
  • dpl95xj6dpl95xj6 Posts: 7
    Keyrow, i cannot tell you what year is better than the rest but it is my brief experience from dealing with one Jag dealer here in Phx to avoid pre 1995 models. if you go to EBAY motors or Yahoo auctions you will see several XJ6's or 8's on auction. this could give you a benchmark when shopping locally for any car.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Well,

    First, they really are that good. At least comparable nowadays to anything else on the road. As far as pricing goes...

    Right now, if you shop hard, I think you can find a slightly miley XJ8, a '98 for about $25K. That's for an SWB with miles in the 40s-50s. It also helps a lot if you like Racing Green or Black Metallic (Anthracite) :) A Topaz or White one with 25-30K is gonna be in the low $30Ks.

    If you can swing $35K.. you can find a low mile 98 VDP now, prices on them have fallen a lot in the last few months. Depends what you want. I'd say that you can do pretty much anything in a 98 short of an XK or XJR. Depends on what you want really.

    98+s are a lot nicer, but not really any better. All of the 95+s are really that good. Dpends on what you want I suppose.

    Oh, as far as brakes go.. that's correct about the silicone. That being said, I've found that JAGUAR pads work the best.

    Bill
  • pablo_lpablo_l Posts: 491
    My '95 XJS convertible used to stubbornly squeak, too, while braking at low speeds. It was always serviced at the official (and overall excellent) Jaguar dealership, and it'd go away and then would come back with some wear and tear within a month or so. I was told by the Jaguar service folks that, due to the switcheroo to asbestos free brake pads, the slightest misalignment that invariably results from lots of city traffic will make the brakes squeak a little. If you use the brakes hard a few times, at more considerable speed, the squeaking will go away. Drive around in stop and go traffic, and it will come back.

    My new Jag doesn't have that slightly irritating issue. I got used to it in the XJS, but still it is kind of a letdown to drive up to the valet parking of a fashionable restaurant and stop with squaky brakes.... :-)
  • keyrowkeyrow Posts: 214
    I appreciate how quickly I the responses were posted to my query. My wife's preference is for BRG so I may be able to save a few $$$ if I can find a good one, hopefully a VDP. I am also lucky to have two Jaguar dealerships within 40 miles so I ought to have a nice selection of vehicles to look over this weekend, Sunday is Father's Day afterall! I'll let you know what I find.
  • fharrisfharris Posts: 2
    For $35K, you should be able to find a '98 (or maybe even a higher mileage '99 XJ8), particularly at a Jaguar dealer who will have those coming off their 2 and 3 year leases.

    My advice is to look at the XJ8L or VDP, because those have the longer wheelbase. I'm only 5'7", and I put my driver's seat all the way back (in my SWB '95 XJ6), reducing backseat legroom. The LWB adds 4-5" to backseat legroom.

    As for the Infiniti, it's comfortable, reliable, and IMHO, boring. Go for the Jaguar. Other than its great looks, class, and relative uniqueness, remember that Jaguar was 1st in '99, and 2nd in '01, in JD Power's Initial Quality Study. The '95+ Jaguars are very reliable cars, despite popular conception to the contrary.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Umm...

    Unless it's a special order car (Good luck finding one) You'll need to go 96 or back to get a BRG VDP.

    So if it's gotta be BRG... XJ8 or XJ8L.

    However Jade Green is the prettiest :)) (Me and 97vdpguy have Jade VDPs)

    Let us know what ya find pricewise before you go pulling the trigger. In the past literally 90 days the market on these cars has fallen a lot... so be careful.

    Bill
  • arcoatesarcoates Posts: 221
    Bill- I am suprised to hear that Topaz is one of the more popular choices and BRG is not. When I think of a classic british car, it is always in BRG with a tan interior. Where do they list in terms of popularity? Mine is BRG with coffee interior and I think it is one of the best combos~ A.R.
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