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Jaguar XJ-Series



  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,320
    The hazard of snow driving is more the subjecting your motorcar to the inexperienced other motorist. The best studded snow tire won't ward off the other person from crashing into you.
  • esfesf Posts: 1,020
    Thanks. I was actually at the dealer today for a test drive- and I came away very impressed. Its smooth ride was fantastic over bumps and it didn't dive at all due to the CATS suspension, the handling was predictable and tossable for a large sedan, and the power was ample for both she and I. The interior was gorgeous, as was the exterior, and she was looking through the brochure today, and just said, "I'm getting this. I've never been excited about a car before, but I really am for this Jaguar."

    My son agrees- he's a gear head like me, and we also drove the BMW 530xi today, after the Jag. He disliked the BMW and thought the Jaguar would be a much better car for her, and thought the XJ was better in every area (except price, but I can spare $3,000).

    I'm sure we'll be getting it, and if we do, it's a Racing Green XJ8 with the Champagne/Mocha interior with Mocha piping on the seats. We'll be buying her new car in January, right in the heart of winter :sick:.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    "I want you to go out to the auctions and look for a black or BRG with sand interior that you could buy, CPO and then sell to me for say 43K. If you see one, buy it, CPO it, and I'll buy it from you."

    blkislandguy - Have you been successful yet? It's been a month.

    I have a little more input on possibilities: 1) There is a Dealer here in Las Vegas that I buy from frequently who could get you what you want - he scours auctions all the way from California to Pennsylvania to find "special order" cars, and he flys out there to check them out himself. He is very very meticulous. Also, CPO Jags come through the auction all the time. A dealer may get in a recent model, CPO it, but in 4 months it's still there, so he sends it off to the auction. It's still CPO to whomever buys it.

    He'll buy the car, and ship it to you for about $500. It's done all the time. He sells as many cars out of state as he does in Vegas. If you want to check him out, here's his website:
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I can seriously check the Highline Auction here - they send a ton of them through here every month. I make no money from this, so it's not a come=on. Just offering to help.
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    nvbanker - just wanted to let you know that your efforts to help blckislandguy are a testimony to your fine character, and it shows. You have my respect throughout ALL the forums. I sure hope you can get him a nice one.

  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Thanks tag. :shades: Very kind remarks.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,320
    As I would buy an 04 XJ8 with less than 10,000 miles, I hesitate doing so because I don't know the market price of the car. The one I'm focused on is in TX Lexus dealer. First it was 42,988, then 38,988 so my question is how do I know in advance what the bottom price is - so after I buy it, the dealer won't grin because he overcharged me.

    What percentage of the asking price is accepted by the industry for a quick, no trade, cash deal?
  • quemfalaquemfala Posts: 107
    Re: my post #2489; just heard from the dealer that new gas tanks are in and I should be driving my XJ8 by the end of the month.
  • NVbanker, thanks for the two posts and web site. I appreciate it.

    It looks like a local dealer is closing in on an '05 XJL in BRG (while dark green no longer is a popular color, it is to my eye on Jag sedans) with beige interior, NAV, and 17,000 miles. They haven't gotten it in the dealership yet and don't have pricing. It may be coming from a trade or a dealer-only auction. However, they tell me that they will CPO it. (Can they CPO factory-buy back cars?)

    What is this thing worth as a CPO in a soft sales season? (Soft sales season? You can't give away a home now in New England. The Boston Globe will need to buy a train load of paper to start printing an expanded 1987-like real estate auction section on Sundays.) What is my initial offer? Do I make a low offer now and then wait to the middle of December when presumably they really want to move it? With a driveway full of still serviceable cars, this is a discretionary purchase.
  • quemfalaquemfala Posts: 107
    If an interloper can jump in, Edmunds gives a pretty good analysis of "used cars", allowing for condition, mileage and so forth. It's helped me in the past. As for CPO, my understanding is they can add this to any previously titled vehicle. By the way, the value of the added CPO, at least in my area, is about $300.

    Good luck.

    Life is better at the Beach!
  • Re: Value of the CPO. Do you mean the internal cost to the dealer to obtain the certificate from Jag OR the value to the consumer? The former, for example, costs a BMW dealer about $1000. The latter for any complex luxury car has got to be worth $3000-$4000. More if you have any Rover product, a 7 Series BMW, etc.

    Incidentally, a lot of people on the High End Luxury Marque board swear that they would never own a HELM vehicle out of warranty. It is paradoxical that the last thing a retiring couple should do is to buy a new MB or BWM "to keep forever", as one would have bought a Packard a generation ago, when they would have much better luck with a Taurus or even an F150.
  • The CPO for our Land rovers runs between 1,500 and 2,000 dollars depending on the vehicle. I am sure Jaguar is similar to slightly less depending on the vehicle.
  • British_Rover, IMHO any retail customer who passes up a CPO on a Rover or Bimmer is nuts.

    Incidentally,the Boston Globe today had a big expose about a pol who had over the years bought 7 Series sedans at wholesale prices from a local body shop owner who goes to car auctions. The gist of the article was that he was getting a great deal from a guy seeking favor. Wrong. He was picking up 3 year old 7 Series for no money because they had no CPO or provence. What he got was a sucker's bet.
  • Yup I have had people that wanted to buy Freelanders without the CPO in order to save 1,500 bucks and I told them we would not sell them the car without the warranty.

    Every freelander needs a tranny sometime before 75,000 miles and it normaly fails between 40,000 and 65,000. If you luck out and it fails before the 50,000 mile mark could for you but if it doesn't and you don't have the warranty...

    Well then that 1,500 dollar warranty looks like a pretty good deal after you had to pay 3,000 grand for a new transmission.

    We took an older XJ8 in trade a couple of weeks ago. I passed though as I want either a Vanden Plas or a Super V8. Hopefuly eventualy we will add a jag store next to our rover store. That would make things easier.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    What is this thing worth as a CPO in a soft sales season?

    $35,000. That's a little low, but these things are dropping faster than Presidents in Argentina. Don't overpay, even for the CPO. It doesn't add that much value.

    For Week Ending Oct 25 Sale Price $35,676
    Aug 2006 Apr 2006 Oct 2005
    $36,937 $39,956 $41,745
  • British Rover, did the Disco II with the Buick Skylark engine stroked to 4.6 L and the much advertised "283 improved features" (or whatever the number was) have significantly better quality in their last year? Would you touch one (with a CPO)?
  • Oh yes the last two years of the Disco were so much better then the previous years. Even the 2002 models were a lot better. The second demo I ever had was actually a 2002 MY Disco and I never had a problem with it in almost a year.

    My ideal diso would be a 2003 disco with the ACE package but that basicly does not exist. It was avaliable to order that option but I have never seen one.
  • quemfalaquemfala Posts: 107
    I mis-spoke; the $300 was a figure discussed as we were negotiating the total price of the vehicle, such as in "$300 less for the car if I didn't take the Certified warranty". No chance, as mentioned in one of the other posts, dangerous territory without coverage. I had a 2001 Cad STS that lived in the shop more than I had it, but for some reason I liked that car. I purchased an extended warranty when I bought the car, and was never sorry. Except for the incovenience of getting it in for repair. When that happened, loaners were always equal or better class cars.
  • Looks like I may be close to a purchase. I found a 1998 black XJR with 33K (!!!) miles on it. The owner is asking 18K which seems high despite being a low mileage pristine model. Edmunds shows trade in value of 9K and retail sale of 12K. I am sure they have higher mileage baked into that # so I realize this one would cost more and rightfully so. Seems to me 14500 is the right #. It is still almost a 9 year old car! someone show me the light!
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Lower-than-expected mileage on an older car is not always a good thing. When the car is not driven as much as one would expect, you easily could have dry-rot issues, muffler issues, and so forth. You need to have it thoroughly inspected by a knowledgeable mechanic before moving on it, IMHO.
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