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Jaguar XJ-Series

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  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    $24,900?

    Hmm... probably an $18K or so wholesale car, figure $2K recon/select warranty. Wait. A 96 can't be certified. Figure $1,200-1,500 in recon.. assuming they did it "right" (fresh Pirellis, fresh brakes..etc..).

    I mean, fair retail is like... if that car is mint and in a good color.. like $22K or so. Maybe $23K if its THAT nice...

    The trick is, Jags go for a fortune if theyre super clean and super nice and low mileage. Now, a 98 XJ8 with closing in on 50K miles is like a $23K car or so... With 25K on it... Its suddenly a $27K or so car to buy. With 65K miles, staring me in the face.. I wouldnt put a dime over $20K on the thing.

    That being said, Color and equipment can make a huge difference. And prices can swing wildly. A Madeira Red or Amaranth VDP is worth $3,000+ less thana White, Silver or Topaz one.

    Still, Why be silly and buy a Camry? :) Glad ya saw the light!

    Bill
  • lesliejoylesliejoy Posts: 62
    I always read that Topaz, white or silver are "good" colors. How does British Racing Green bode for resale? Is it considered "a good color"?
    Thanks.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Actually.. Its' one of the weaker colors I'm afraid.

    That being said, its' also the classiest IMHO :)

    Best: Topaz, White (Esp in FL), Silver, Jade Green, Sapphire Blue, and then maybe Carnival.

    Worst: Rose Bronze, Roman Bronze, Morocco Red, Amaranth, Madeira Red, Alpine Green, Emerald/Spruce/Sherwood Green, BRG.

    That being said, I think that a Morocco Red 96 VDP is a stunning machine... And BRG is the classic Jaguar color, but the market sayeth otherwise.

    Hope this helps!

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    And Black is bad in FL, good in the northeast...
  • vusicvusic Posts: 53
    Thanks 97vdpguy! My garage doors are in complete sync with my wife's VDP. I love technology!

    Our '99 VDP's color code (on the door sticker)is HGF. What the heck is that?
    Colors are definitely a perception issue. When we bought our's, I asked the dealer why the price was so reasonable. He said it wasn't a very desirable color.
    We live in the Northwest and people seem to go out of their way to comment on the color. Neither my wife, nor myself have done a fuel fillup without someone walking over to comment on the car.
    If you are zigging on a color when the rest of the market zags, cosider it a buying opportunity. If you hold on to the car for 5 years, chances are the rest of the world may zag with you.

    DC
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Isn't that Jade? No.. thats different..

    I dunno. Thought you had a Black one :)

    Black is called Anthracite on 97-01 Jags...

    Bill
  • lesliejoylesliejoy Posts: 62
    Thanks everyone for your responses to gas tank question and Brentwoodvolvo on color.

    My 1998 XJ8L is British racing green and I do think it's classy! My other choice would have been Westminster blue, which to me is also classy.

    Next question: Does anyone know if the front headrests are adjustable? Looked through the manual and it only mentioned the back headrests.
    If they are adjustable, how do they work? Tried pushing on them, but didn't want to break anything in case they weren't adjustable. Thanks in advance.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    I like BRG too :)

    I mean, it is the national racing color of England!

    On to the headrests... they adjust up and down electrically, just push north/south on the backrest switch on the side of your seat. (pushing the switch East-West moves the backrest fore and aft as Im sure you know :)

    To adjust the swivel of the headrest, not the height, you need to push on it... do it somewhat carefully tho.

    Bill
  • lesliejoylesliejoy Posts: 62
    Thanks Bill. It worked. Been trying to figure that one out for 2 months! You are a wealth of information - greatly appreciated!
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Glad to help! :)
  • vusicvusic Posts: 53
    Wild Bill: I kept posting that it was Topaz.......NOT!!!!!!! It's some kind of green color, but not the frosty pearl green of the '97s. It's a little more yellowish than that. What the heck, we love it!
    We've had it for a month now. What a totally amazing car. I drive a 930 during the work week and I can't wait for the weekend to drive the family around in the VDP. Torque is everywhere and the dynamics of the car give no hint of it's heft. Plus, our girls love to play Barbies on the dijon mustard trays. My son just loves to go fast.
    Long live The Empire!

    DC
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    I think its' gotta be Alpine green then.

    If ya have a digital camera I'll confirm :)

    Irrespective, glad you're loving it. They are amazing cars...

    Bill
  • vusicvusic Posts: 53
    I don't know how to post picts on the message board so I sent you a email.
    Also, on our 99'VDP, I tried pushing in the backrest tilt for the headrest (my Mom stumbled upon the North/South thing) but it didn't seem to want to go in.
    I thought I'd ask you before taking a hammer to it.

    DC
  • lesliejoylesliejoy Posts: 62
    Anyone know where I can get a "used" wood/leather steering wheel? The walnut burlwood in my car has a lot of blond in it. The steering wheels from the dealer are dark walnut and really don't match. They told me the sun lightens the wood in time. My car is a 1998 XJ8L and has oatmeal leather. Thanks.
  • jrlindjrlind Posts: 3
    I am considering the purchase of a 2000 XJR with less than 7000 miles. The car was hit in the rear, requiring a new bumper, deck lid, a little work to the quarters, and some paint work. No significant frame damage,etc. I am familiar with the condition of the car before it was repaired, and know that the repairs were correctly done. How big of a hit in value will the repair history cause today, and upon resale 3 or 4 years down the line? Given the history of this car, what is the approximate wholesale/retail value of the car?
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Hmm...

    Try Coventry West (www.coventrywest.com) they sell used parts...

    Or maybe eBay?

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Hmm...

    Thats not good. Figure I'd wack the car a solid $4,000 because of it. Well, I'd take it from clean book to no better than Average Book as they say...

    Ordinarially I'd write a check for that car right now for $47,000 or so... But at the moment I'd appraise it at about $42,500 or so. So figure $5K or so on top of that for a retail price(Where I'd tell you you want to say "sold" if it was in your driveway with a for sale sign on it).

    What you save now tho, you willlose down the road.. be aware of that.

    Hope this helps!

    Bill
  • trishm1trishm1 Posts: 4
    I am going to Baltimore this weekend to look at a 98 XJ8 Vanden Plas Topaz/Ivory with 48,000 miles still on factory warranty. The car has a factory phone, heated seats $ traction and a 6 CD Changer. I have seen photos and checked the history. Everything looks great! The car was listed on the internet for $35,000 originally. The independent dealer just lowered the price to $32,000. No SE warranty. Is $32,000 a good price? Should I offer $28,000-$30,000 -- or would this be an insult to the dealer? I don't know what wholesale was. Please let me know. He also has an extended 100,000 mile warranty bumper to bumper by Car Care Connection for $2,000. Have you heard of this company? The price sounds good.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Trish,


    I think that $30K seems fair to me at retail..


    VDPs with miles around 45K in your neck of the woods (Northeast) are doing about $27K at the auction. Of course offer $28K :) I mean, You always want to ask! As long as they are still under warranty, their prices remain strong. With 55K miles its' suddenly a $25K car up there, $23-24K or so down here. But then you're out of factory warranty and that terrifies most buyers.


    Its' the most valuable color the car comes in (arguably tied with White, especially in FL), deduct $2,500 if it was Amaranth.


    Check it for paintwork, that kills their value...


    http://www.vauxhallpa.50megs.com/paintwork.html


    Hope this helps!


    Bill

  • trishm1trishm1 Posts: 4
    Thanks so much for the great info and the prompt response. Every chat room should be so lucky to have someone like you!
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Glad I could help!

    Thanks! :)

    Bill
  • christchurchchristchurch Posts: 125
    In my opinion, I prefer and would only buy the VDP or the L series for the reason that the back seat leg room in the XJ6 is miniscual at best.
    These XJ6 / XJ8 JAGS are really one or two passenger drivers cars since the back seat leg room is very cramped. A passengers legs are humped up and are therefore without support of the rear seat which is low to begin with.
    In other words, In my opinion, if you are going to have passengers opt only for the VDP or L series. The 5+/- inches makes rear seat occupants appreciate the ride and Jaguar style. Without it, anticipate stiff legs and ornery passengers, particularly on a journey of any length.

    It is time to stretch the legs !
    christchurch
  • mahivdpmahivdp Posts: 3
    I'm 64 years old and always liked the jag. Last Aug I bought a 2000 VDP, platinum, preowned, 7000 mi. with Jag's extended warranty. I was a little disappointed that it didn't have all the electronic gizmos that the Mercedes, Caddy and Lexus Had. Those were my conciderations before I saw that magnificent VDP.

    Well let me tell ya. I am one very happy guy. Never had so many people admire a car that I owned befor and I've had many. Get more looks, questions and drooling wana be owners than when I drive the wife's Vette.

    Our drive back and forth to the Keys last winter was a DREAM come true. She purred like a kitten at 75 and 90 and growled like the predator she is whenever I floored Her. Don't need those gizmos, heck I don't even want them anymore. I now have 15,000 on her now and only one problem when I first got her with pulling to the right that the dealer said was defective bushings in front end. They took care of it and replaced the 2 front tires they said were unevenly worn free.

    I had a 95 Eldorado I traded on the Jag. I'm looking for the trip to Fl from NJ now, a Trip I used to hate.

    I've check out many sites on other cars, but this site is the most informative, intelligent and curteous I have seen. Keep up the good work.

    TedVDP
  • christchurchchristchurch Posts: 125
    I concur, I concur, I concur!
    Jags are like no other car or "cat" in the world.

    They are pure artistry on wheels.
    Ownership brings us numerous rewards not the least of which is the admiration of all who love great and beautiful automobiles.
    In the many years that I owned Benz I never had the admiring comments and the favorable attention that the Jag accrues.

    These are truly examples of beautiful auto design.
    And, what a pleasure to drive.
    Nothing else even comes close to a Jag in one automotive package !

    Long Reign the "Cat" !
    christchurch
  • christchurchchristchurch Posts: 125
    There is some really great sharing of information going along our XJ Series Jag page. I have read new posts by new devotees every day and they are great !

    As I read your notes, I notice that quite a few of you are adding
    upgrades and enhancements to your Jags.
    I have done some of the same.

    In doing so, I have come across a good place for Jag. parts, accessories and "neat" Jag items. They have been around for quite a while. (I am surprised that some of my Jag friends didn't know of them and this may be the same for you.)
    Those that have dealt with them have good things to say about them. My expierence, likewise, has been good. (Incidently, "I get no commissions".... am just passing along some helpful info. that I have found beneficial.)

    They are Welsh Jaguar Specialists located in Ohio and are able to be contacted at www.welshent.com They put out a periodic flier with neat stuff... such as Jaguar gift ideas... how about that guys ? We could just see that the brochure is put in a conspicuous place and maybe someone would get some ideas!
    Anyway, log on and get on their monthly mailing list.

    Happy Jag'n around !
    christchurch
  • mveramvera Posts: 22
    I am about to make the big step and purchase a 1995, XJ6, BRG. 74K miles for $15K. Although this is the car I have wanted in a long time, the only thing more I would want would be the convertable. But being from Minnesota the smartest move is the sun roof instead. I also drove the VDP, 1996, supercharged, but felt it was way too fast for me. I had a big problem keeping it under 75/80 mph. I would be paying way too much in speeding tickets if I bought that one.

    I left a message on the other site under "classics" not knowing this site was there yet. I having been sitting here all morning reading all your notes back and forth and am feeling alot better about purchasing this car. I have been very nervous for the last three days wondering if I am making the right decision. I feel I need to purchase a warranty and probably will. My husband works for the Jag dealership here in town (not a mech.)and had a Mechanic check it out and they have the service records on it since they purchased it from auction years ago and now it has come back as a trade in. He says all looks good. I am just worried that repairs will kill me even though I am able to afford the purchase. Of course I probably will not drive it in the winter here even though they say you can and half do up here.

    It's funny how people feel about Jaguars, you either love them or hate them. I'm glad to see so many lovers out there. Especially feeling the same way about BRG & the style the way I do...classy, classy, classy ! I have been test driving this car for a few days and don't think I can say no unless you have any good reasons why this is a dumb move for myself.

    I will take any info/lip you can give me. I am going to check out www.jag-lovers.org tomorrow but right now am feeling pretty good about this site.

    Cold feet in St. Paul, MN
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Ahh,

    You husband works at Luther's Downtown? I knew someone from there...

    $15K seems like a fair # If anything a bit cheapish...

    Bill
    95 Vanden Plas
    127,000 Beat-it-to-hell miles, no worries yet
  • mveramvera Posts: 22
    I believe I am getting that price because of my husband. They are asking 19,500. I have been searching the internet for a warranty co. I think I have found one, but will investigate a little more. It is Extended Auto Warranty Corp. Not a bad price either.

    I have a friend that has been at Downtown Jag for about 20 years. I also know a few of the guys that have been around for a long time there. My husband just started back in March and he brings home different cars every week, but when he brought home that pretty green car, I fell in Love all over again.

    You know everyone & everything don't you ! Thanks for your response.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Well...

    I go to Jag auctions all over.. and have been doing so for a few years, and I worked for Jaguar dealerships from 96-99... etc...

    So ya get to know people :) There's only like 160 or so Jaguar dealers in the country.

    They're probably selling it to your husband for $15K (Probably $500 over cost) as an employee purchase. Most dealerships do that. $19,500 retail makes sense to me, that's what I might ask for it (Not that I'd get it tho..haha)

    You're going to love this car!

    Bill
  • christchurchchristchurch Posts: 125
    Bill and other conniseurers:

    (A) 1997 XJ6 (mileage 35k+/-) (price:25K)
    (color: Platinum)

    (I) 1998 XJ8 L (mileage 35+/-) (price:37k)
    (color: Topaz)

    (1) What is your assessment?
    (2) Prices fair.... what would be the appropriate buying range?
    (3) Which of these would be a buy in your opinion and for what reason?
    (4) What should be the considerations?
    (5) Buy a warrenty ? If so which one?

    I appreciate the recommendations ! I will pass them along to the dreaming - desirous party.'

    "A Cat lover"
    christchurch
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