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Jaguar XJ-Series

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  • tbodentboden Posts: 4
    what is the proper size cat for the hood of a 93 xj6 i see mostly 5 inch ones for prices ranging from 14.00 to 118.00 dollars and larger ones for more than that which one is correct for this car?
  • willimjowillimjo Posts: 73
    Bill- you don't know me, but I've been following your writings for the past year or so in various forums and have come to respect your willingness to provide honest and complete input to those that ask... so I'd like to impose on you.

    I'm looking at 98 XJ8's, preferably L's. I've found a few low mileage examples (22k-33k). Asking prices are $30-33k. These are all dealer cars. How much "wiggle" room could I expect to find in the price. Most are Black/Tan, one is Green/Tan, most with weather package, about half with CD.

    Thanks for any insight you can provide.

    James
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Busier than in Trade-InValues tonight!


    (Im up late... I just bought a 356 today and am doing research... luckily I cna deal with 4-5 hours of sleep..)


    Sho: Check position of the fuel nozzle.. They can be pissy aboutthis. Otherwise a Tank vent is prolly blocked.


    Bill: yes, they like Heavy Oil. But if you're up North.. 10W40 Winter, 20W50 in defrost season :)


    Tboden: Neither is technically "Correct" as they didnt come with em from the factory until about December 1995 Production. Euro version still dont come with them (Neither are they legal in the EU). So, the Large one or the small one? Personal preference. Check http://www.jagbits.com for pricing. Some of the cheap ones are junky knockoffs and look like crap within 6 months.


    James: Cool, I have a fan club! :) OK.. Figure you should be ableto buy a Low-Miler, as a Select, 1998 for about $30-31K from a Jag dealer and $29-30K from an Independent. Where ya located? If it has to be Select and from a Dealer, And you're near NY City..try Montclair Jaguar in North Jersey...they're really agressive on used cars.


    Ted: That's because you like getting new parts silly :) Gimme a calltomorrow.. youneed to see the 356 I just bought!


    Bill

  • willimjowillimjo Posts: 73
    Thanks for the info, Bill. I'm in the Chicago area.

    This would be our first Jag. I like the idea of the Select warranty, but from what you're saying, paying more than $1000-1500 for it is paying too much.

    How fast should the price come down as the mileage goes up? Being able to get a nice 98 XJ8-L in the $27k-28k range would be a tad more comfortable right now. What kind of mileage might I be looking at to get the price in this range?

    Have you, or anyone else, heard or know of the buying service at cybersourceauto.com? The examples of previous delivered XJ8's they give certainly sound appealing. Any reason to steer away from an independent that sources and delivers what you're looking for less than you can find it on a lot?
  • Hi all. For Brentwoodvolvo. What is the difference between the Pirelli P4000ZR and the Dunlop SP5000W for a VDP.I can get the Pirelli's for $179.00 ea. installed and $126.00 for Dunlops. Are the Dunlops actually better, or is your prefference based on the lower cost. I only have 20K on the Pirelli's and they already need replacing. Are the Dunlops quiet and will they last longer?

    Bye the way, I love my 2000 Platinum VDP. Thanks for your time.

    Ted from Somers Point, N.J.
  • rbrenton88rbrenton88 Posts: 186
    Try browsing the website for texascarsdirect.com

    Even if you aren't willing to buy from them, the site is still an excellent barometer of pricing for various models and mileages.

    The dealers in my neck of the woods (well, all 2 of them) ask crazy money for the used stock, though they obviously try to cherry-pick their inventory from the auctions. Still, the Select designation isn't worth a 10k markup.

    Another option is to take a Disney vacation, and combine it with a trip to Bill's store. Then you can drive it home.
    That's what I was going to do, but Bill wouldn't get me a supercharged VDP in my color.
  • willimjowillimjo Posts: 73
    Thanks for the site suggestion. Their prices do appear to be a few thousand less than advertised prices around Chicago. It gives me more to go on. I appreciate it.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Well..

    The cars all come from the same place, largely Jaguar credit auctions. Generally you will get a much better price from an Independent, but you wont get an SE Warranty.

    I am selling, retail, Ls with miles in the 34-38Kish range for $27K to 27,500 (What I am GETTING, not asking..) and Lower milers for closer to $29K.. and Higher Milers for closer to $24-25K.

    So Im sure you can get similar deals in Chicago, prices arent much different up there really. Maybe $500-1K higher at the Manheim, PA auction, but about the same as here at the Detroit Auction.

    Just Carfax it, check it for paintwork..etc...

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Well...

    The OEM P4000E tires arent All-Season tires! If you want the best [non-permissible content removed].. get P6000 Sport Veloces, but the Dunlops are also very good. Both last longer, are cheaper and offer similar grip.

    Nice looking car BTW..Platinum looks great! :)

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    The trick is FINDING a VDP S/C! =O

    Last 2 I have seen were... 1) High Miler (00 with 51K.. PASS) and 2) Topaz/Oatmeal... 99 with 45K.. not too bad but oodles of paintwork.. PASS!

    Bill
  • willimjowillimjo Posts: 73
    Thanks again Bill. I'll have to keep looking. I'm sure *my* XJ8 is out there somewhere!
  • derel2derel2 Posts: 49
    Hi everyone:

    I just recently was lucky enough to purchase a 1995 XJ6 with a 4.0L engine (AJ16 I believe) in excellent condition with 54,000 miles. Can anyone tell me how much horsepower this engine is rated at?

    Thanks,

    Derel2
  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,482
    Bill would know better. But, I believe it's 240HP.

    BTW, if you don't mind me asking, what did you pay for it? I'm thinking of getting a 95 sedan to compliment my convertible.
  • rbrenton88rbrenton88 Posts: 186
    There is an interesting XJ8 on ebay that they call a 'faux' XJR. It's a regular 99 or 00 XJ8 with 18" chrome wheels, and XJR grill and badging. I really like to looks, but I think I'd rather have the 370hp to go with it.
    interesting model though.
  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,482
    I never understand people "re-badging" their cars to make them appear to be more expensive models. It's stupid, petty, and childish.
  • derel2derel2 Posts: 49
    Thanks for the information. I don't mind you asking. I paid $16.5K.

    Another question: The manual mentions not to cover or obscure the solar sensor located on top of the dash under the windshield. I can't find anywhere where it mentions what this sensor is for. Can anyone help?
  • Congrats on the Jaguar.

    I didn't know they were solar powered, either.
  • mvargo1mvargo1 Posts: 298
    Solar sensor is part of the climate control, I think. If I am not wrong the climate control monitors interior and exterior temp. and the amount of sunlight coming in to the car in order to maintain consistant temperature in the vehicle.

    HP I think is 245
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Yeah I saw that "Faux" XJR... What a joke.

    THe AJ6 Engine (95-97) in NON SUPERCHARGED for has 245hpand 289 lb-ft of torque.

    The Solar sensor is for the climate control system...Its used to determine sunlight so the ACworks more efficiently. 85 degrees in sunlight demands more fromyour ACsystemthat 85 degrees at night.

    Bill
  • derel2derel2 Posts: 49
    Thanks all for your help.
  • pablo_lpablo_l Posts: 491
    Well, now they have the XJ8 Sport, which looks a lot like the XJR. And even though I have a pretty new XJR, I think the XJ8 Sport is something they should have done a long time ago - I actually got the XJR mostly for the more aggressive design cues. The engine and power are awesome and stuff, but honest, 370HP is totally ridiculous overkill, and you hardly ever even remotely exploit it in traffic. 290HP are plenty. Besides, even the XJR can't hold a candle to my motorcycle when it comes to acceleration... :-)
  • rayh3rayh3 Posts: 38
    A couple came into our store to see the new X-Type.....well they came on the lot spotted a salesman who was getting a stock number off a car and shouted "where is that $349/month car?". The salesman shows the customer the car and brings them inside to discuss the lease. I have to appraise the trade. It is a 98 Toyota Corolla CE with a lovely 6 inch V8 sticker just below the CE badging! A couple of our technician also saw it and were about to fall down laughing. Who do these people think they are fooling? Needless to say we couldn't make a deal. They wanted about half price for our car and full retail book for theirs.
  • rbrenton88rbrenton88 Posts: 186
    Hey, at least the contradictory "Type-R" sticker wasn't on there yet.
  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,482
    Maybe they were referring to the vegetable juice.
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    Being a Chrome fan (I know, I know, I'm a weirdo), I'd prefer to do just the opposite. Take an XJR, loose the dark interior and painted grille for their Vanden Plas counterparts, and have the 370 hp engine it what looks like a "lesser" car. Personally, when I see cars originally designed to have chrome grilles that have been painted body colored (even by the factory), it looks like a cheap Krylon paint job to me.
  • so....which would you choose and why..

    a 1997 xj6VDP pretty much with no extras other than the vdp package and 50K miles

    or

    a 1995 XJR with 47,000 miles and the traction, harmon kardon sound heated seats, etc...

    both are red tones

    both are similarly priced

    thanks for the input...i'm a new guy...looking for a good deal on a jag in missouri

    i've already read this whole forum...great info and thanks for further input in advance
  • pablo_lpablo_l Posts: 491
    rea -

    They do make the XJR with the light oatmeal interior :-) Dark interiors are just not for California, my XJR is white with a light interior, I can't stand dark cars for practical reasons, nice as it looks. Besides, I am superstitious, and have always had white cars, and green or yellow motorcycles. As to the chrome, I am not big on it when it comes to exteriors, but I *love* the VDP interior and wish they'd have that baby Bentley look in the XJR. Besides, the XJR still has that leaper in chrome... :-)

    But what I actually like about the XJR compared to the E55 and M5 is the fact that it's far lower key, it's still relatively subtle design cues (even though the usually conservative XJ8 crowd probably raises its collective eyebrow), and people that don't know Jags simply can't tell the fact there's a powerful car there. Also, don't forget Jag does carry the VDP with the supercharged engine. I just think the long wheelbase doesn't look as drop-dead gorgeuous as the short version. Still one of the nicest car shapes out there, but the profile of the short door version is the more balanced design, in my humble opinion.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Which one ya like better?

    VDPs are a much better Value per se, and the 6-cyls have come way down in the past 18 months. Way way down.

    I just sold a Topaz 97 with 52K on it for $20K even, and Just sold a 61K mile 96 XJR for $21,600.

    So ya see the difference :)

    If its the Guy in.. shall we say... South of Northwest Plaza and North of Olive Blvd... Make sure youhave a good prepurchase inspection done...

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Ya need a Vanden Plas Supercharged then!

    :)

    And RB, I saw an Anthracite 00 on eBay..... I did just get one in, but its an 02 with 3K miles and very very uncheap.

    Bill
  • willimjowillimjo Posts: 73
    I ended up working with the buyer service out of Chicago area, cybersourceauto.com. He's at a large high-line off lease auction in Pennsylvania today and just called with a couple prospects worth pursuing.

    It'll be tough to get through the rest of the day wondering how the bidding might be going and whether he can get one of the cars we discussed within my agreed budget. I'll probably know this evening if I will soon become a XJ8 owner, or have to keep looking.
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