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Jaguar XJ-Series

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  • I was doing some research on tirerack.com and came across some really great reviews for the Bridgestone Turanza LS-Z's. Anyone have these on their Jag or know anything about them?

    I drive on the highways in Atlanta and want a tire that grips the road, but will give me a soft, QUIET ride.

    Thanks for all your imput.

    Leslie
  • Any opinions on Bridgestone Turanza LS-Z's or
    Dunlop Sport SP5000's? Is there a difference in the speed rating if I never go over 90? H vs V, Z? Thanks.
  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,482
    looking for a quiet ride? Look into Yokohama AVS dB.
  • When I got my select edition, the manager at Rosenthal gave me a copy of the internal repair order for the car used to bring it up to select edition standards. The cost was a whooping $1597, and included the 30K service, $466 for front pads and rotors, a new tire, 4 wheel alignment, and other misc. things.

    They missed a few things on the 140 list (cig. lighter element, one headlight, etc) which are being fixed now. So far, I'm very pleased with the Rosenthal service - they appear to be making every effort to get the car up to "like new" standards.
  • Lesliejoy,

    The speed ratings on tires is indicative of the stiffness of the tire's sidewall. The higher the speed rating, the stiffer the sidewall. You can check this out for yourself by going into a tire shop and pressing against the sides of the various tires. You will find that the stiffer tires indeed have a higher speed rating.

    Does that mean if you don't plan on driving faster than 90 mph you can get away with a lower speed-rated tire? Absolutely not.

    If your planning on changing your tires, always stick to at least the minimum recommended speed rating tire that the car's manufacturer recommends. So, for example, if your car's manufacturer has put V-rated tires on your car, you should stick with at least V-rated. Whether you decide to go to the higher rated Z-tires is up to you(better handling while cornering but a rougher ride).

    The reason a car manufacturer will put a certain speed-rated tire on their car is because they would have tested the car on various tires and they would know what stiffness tirewall is necessary to support the car's weight, thus providing effective cornering and braking traction. To illustrate this point, imagine if you downgrade your tires from V-rated to S-rated tires. It would be like having balloons for tires. The softer sidewall would severely hamper cornering ability as the "balloons" would have a tendency to roll over onto their sides while your're turning. You might not notice it as much at city-speeds, but you would definitely notice it at highway speeds when changing lanes. The difference is dramatic enough to possibly lose control even with crosswinds, resulting in an accident.

    Bottom line: stick with the higher speed ratings if your car's manufacturer demands it. The price differential on most brands is minimal (maybe 10 bucks per tire with mail order companies).

    Best of regards,

    Adnan
  • Adnan, I really appreciate the explanation!

    I have an XJ8L (1998). The minimum recommendation is "V". I have Pirellis now and they need to be replaced. I'm looking for a tire that will last for more than 20,000 miles, handles well, has good traction in the rain, and rides smoothly, as a luxury car should.

    I was checking out reviews and it seems as if it's between Dunlop Sport SP5000's and the Bridgestone Turanza LS-Z's.

    Do you have any recommendations? Dunlops come in "W" and "Z".

    Thanks so much for your input.

    Leslie
  • I have seen green, black, carnival red and blue. Any others?
  • derel2derel2 Posts: 49
    Go to www.jaguar.com and click on the build-your jaguar icon. It will show you the model in the colors available this year. There may be some new colors or name changes but they have been fairly consistent over the past few years.
  • Leslie,

    I'm not super familiar with either of the tires you're looking at. But judging from their specs and ratings, they do seem like good tires and I don't reckon you'd go wrong with either of them. Between the Bridgestones and the Dunlops, I'd probably go with the Dunlops because they're moderately cheaper (40 bucks less per tire) and they have a more aggressive looking tread pattern.

    My personal favorite is the BF Goodrich Comp T/A VR4 -- excellent wet and dry grip, quiet, reasonably priced, and long-lasting. Unfortunately, the selection of sizes is limited and they might not make it in your size.

    With respect to tire longevity, the keys are to make sure your car is aligned, the tires are properly inflated (check 'em once every two weeks), and have them rotated every 7500 miles or so.

    Best of luck,

    Adnan
  • Went price shopping today for the tires.

    One tire dealer said he wouldn't recommend the Dunlops because the weight load was only 97 and my current tires are 98. He said the weight load was more important than the speed rating.

    So many people here recommended the Dunlops and other tires that have a 97W and they also have XJ's. I don't quite get it. HELP!!
  • After much research, it seems the only tire that I can find, besides the Pirellis, that fits the XJ8L with a 98 weight load is the Potenza RE730. Anyone have these on their XJ's and if so, how do you like them? Are they quiet?

    If people here have other tires that are 98 weight load on their XJ8's, please let me know.

    Thanks.
    Leslie
  • Well, after much research, I've decided to go for the Bridgestone Turanza LS-Z's for my 1998 XJ8L (225/60/ZR16).

    Is anyone reading this thread? If so, I'd appreciate any comments.

    Thanks.

    Leslie
  • sho3sho3 Posts: 28
    Leslie did you check the reviews at Tire rack and your options at Discount Tire online ?
  • The reviews at tirerack.com on the Turanza LS-Z's were exceptional and I noted that they were all luxury car owners (Mercedes, Acura, Lexus).

    Tirerack.com's price was $133/ea. I got a local price of $139, which I think is a good deal.

    These tires seem to have the most up-to-date technology and a smooth, quiet ride, which I'm looking for in a luxury car. They are all season and have great traction wet/dry. They also have a 40,000 tread warranty. Sounds good to me!

    Thanks for responding. I thought I was alone here. (LOL)

    Leslie
  • One more thing.

    These tires are fairly new. They just came out this spring.

    Leslie
  • Hi Leslie,

    The load index on a tire is a number that corresponds to the weight that tire can bear. For example, your manufacturer recommends a load index of 98 which corresponds to a maximum carrying capacity of 1653 pounds per tire. A load index of 97 corresponds to a maximum carrying capacity of 1609 pounds per tire.

    To a certain extent, your mechanic is right in stating that you should stick with the same load-bearing tire. However, I believe you can safely and confidently go with a 97 index tire for the following reason:

    Your car weighs in at 4404 lbs. Four 98 index tires have a combined maximum carrying capacity of 6612 lbs. Four 97 index tires have a combined carrying capacity of 6436 lbs. That is a difference of 186 lbs. In my opinion, that is not signifant (unless you frequently load the car with over 2000 lbs worth of people and stuff, which I doubt anyone would do to a Jag). Would I go with the 97? Sure. Would I go with a 96? Probably not, just in case I do have to load the car with a lot of weight.

    If I were you, I would speak with one of the reps at a mail order tire company (e.g. tirerack or discounttire). They know a lot about tires and would put your mind at ease. If you decide to go with the Bridgestone's, I think you got a great price since you won't have to pay extra for shipping/handling and installation, plus you'll have a place to go to in case you should run into problems (hopefully not).

    I hope this helped. Best of luck,

    Adnan
  • Thanks so much for all your useful information! I did decide to go with the Bridgestone Turanza LS-Z's since they got such great reviews on tirerack.com. The final price for each tire was $134.99! I had Firestone match the price I got from Tires Plus. It adds up,though, when you add the lifetime road hazard, rotation and balance. Total for all was $677.91 plus tax.
    These tires have a 40,000 mile warranty and as I only drive approx 5,000 miles/year, they should last me awhile (at least a little longer than the Pirellis!!! LOL)

    Thanks again for your input. It was very much appreciated.

    Leslie
  • pluckonpluckon Posts: 12
    I'm confused as to when the new XJ is coming out. Will it be the 2003 model or the 2004 model, and when will it be in the showrooms? Will there be an XJ8L model or not, and is the driver's foot well going to be any less cramped than in the current model?
  • derel2derel2 Posts: 49
    My guess is the new XJ (X350) will not be available in a long wheel base. The length of the new XJ is longer than the current model (but slightly shorter than the extended wheel base). The new design was in part to add additional leg room.

    Mike
  • bhill2bhill2 Posts: 1,333
    The response I got to this question from our local Jaguar dealer was "they'll all be long wheelbase", so I guess that's the company line. He also said that they will be in the showrooms sometime in April. Oh, and they're not going to offer a Vanden Plas model, so I guess we'll have to live without the picnic tables.

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv, 2001 Jaguar XK cnv, 1985 MB 380SE (the best of the lot)

  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,482
    Where will I put my Grey Poupon?
  • If that is true, methinks those of us that keep our VDPs in great shape, especially the picnic tables, will find in years to come that our VDPs are much sought after. I must admit, though, if this is true I think they are making a huge mistake. The VDP is set apart from the crowd of mercedes, Lexus and other "luxury" marques under 100k. Sounds like a decision made by some brainless Ford executive.
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,669
    don't you think "brainless Ford executive" is just redundancy on top of redundancy???..:):)
  • I bought Dunlop Wintersport m-2 last winter. They are "H" rated and seem OK for Michigan winter driving. About $100 from discount tire. No winter tire will let you cowboy around in a Jaguar on hard packed snow.
  • I recently purchased a 2001 XJR and was wondering if anyone can tell me their experience, reliability and satisfaction with the car is. Also, are there any goods sights devoted to the "R" cars.

    Thanks.
  • bhill2bhill2 Posts: 1,333
    I think that not having a Vanden Plas version is a terrible mistake. It truly made for a unique vehicle. We can only hope that Jaguar (Ford) brings it out later. Meanwhile, I may have to look for one that's coming off lease to hold me over.

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv, 2001 Jaguar XK cnv, 1985 MB 380SE (the best of the lot)

  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    What is a Vanden Plas over a regular XJ? A few nicer bits & pieces on an otherwise world-class interior, and a little more chrome outside. It's not something that's going to take a major effort and a brand new car to re-launch like the "Thunderbird" or "Camaro" (being optimistic on the second one!) nameplates. Jag is investing large sums of money in simply creating the X350, so they are going to offer fewer choices until the X350 starts bringing in money, then they'll spend the $$$ to add picnic tables (I'm surprised the safety gurus didn't nix this option years ago) and extra chrome. In any mass production environment, the more you vary the units, the more it costs (Hence, all T-Models were black, to keep the price down. Henry was such a penny pincher that he probably went with that color because he could save 2 cents a car over white). The Vanden Plas is a variation off the regular X350, so Jag is going to let the X350 start paying for itself before they spend money on the Vanden Plas. Look for the nameplate to comeback in 2004 or 2005.
  • pluskinpluskin Posts: 79
    A stretched version of the X350 is planned. Don't know if it will carry on with the mini-picnic tables and Vanden Plas name, but I would assume so.

    "(Hence, all T-Models were black, to keep the price down."
    Actually, I've read that the reason was that at the time, only black paint was available that would bake quickly enough to meet the cycle times that Ford was pumping Model T's out in.
  • I had been shopping for replacement tires for my 1998 XJ8L. The OEM Pirelli's were 225/60/ZR16 98W. I decided on Bridgestone Turanza LS-Z's after much research. Everyone told me not to get less than "V" speed rating and a couple of tire dealers told me that the "98" load ration was important. I ended up getting tires with a "97" load ratio (supports 1609 vs 1653 lbs of weight.)

    Anyway, the reason I'm telling you all this, is that I was so concerned with replacing the tires with something comparable to the manufacturers recommendations.

    Now I see that the newer Jaguar XJ's (in the dealer showrooms and as indicated on Jaguar's website) have Michelin "H" rated tires as standard OEM!!!!! In all my research, I found that "H" rated will give longer tread life, but that the handling won't be as good because the sidewalls aren't as stiff as a higher speed rated tire.

    So I ask, what's up with that?????
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