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MINI Cooper



  • joem5joem5 Posts: 201
    Go to the Mini forums page and the class the class action suit is in there probably in the maintence and repair. My wifes a physcian and all the young nurse are telling her to buy one.
    However, my wife researched them and came upon $47000.00 to replace trans mission because car was 5000 mi over 48 monmany women were replacing clutches at 5K a pop. Then alot of guys were complaining too.
    A volvo is a nice car,but there upkeep is expensive also.
    I'd really do my homework go into the mini forums type in class action and check out the repair forum.Lifes short get what you want,but get alot of advice Mini 's are in demand so you will pay MSRP or more.
    What did it was, she was having her BMW service and ask the technician about the Mini and he said to move on to something else.
    However, the Germans are making them now and the resale seems high. I' d drive it 50 K then dump it,if you really want it. :shades:
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    " I' d drive it 50 K then dump it,if you really want it"

    Yup, just don't keep it beyond the warranty, for peace of mind. For us, our Minis (we're on our second one) have been as trouble-free as any Japanese car that we've had. (Knock on wood)
  • sabrinaesabrinae Posts: 10
    Thanks for all the input, it's been a big help. One last question, if I keep it for 4 years I will still owe on it (doing 5 year finance) what's the trade in on them like?
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    Trade-in on all cars is horrid. When you trade-in, you're giving up several thousand dollars. Yes, even the mini.

    FWIW, my Mini has been trouble free. Best car I've owned in years.
  • joem5joem5 Posts: 201
    Mini's normally have a great resale value. they don't depreciate as fast .
    Sell your car yourself. You really get taken if you trade.
    The salesman will say we have to detail it, put brakes on it,fix this or that(Rubbish) no one knows your car better than you. Do the maintenance and the do the math. Go to Kelly's Bluebook.NADA etc.Like Helen Reddy sang in the song" I'am woman,I'am strong"
    Keep all your records to show the buyer. :shades:
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,420
    After 4 years of payments you will certainly have equity in the car. Mini resale values are terrific, among the best of any car sold in the USA.


  • Sabrinae ~ You mentioned your friend had to get a new automatic transmission in the 1st year. Is her 2004 MINI an S or non S? The automatic is different in the S vs. non S (so I've been told).
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    The automatic is the same in R56 coopers and cooper S cars.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    We've had both the CVT, and now the Steptronic. And yes, overall the Step is superior to the CVT --- smoother and sportier. The only 2 relatively minor issues I have with the Step is that 1st gear is so short that you end up redlining it if you don't conscientiously induce an upshift; and the adaptive logic in the transmission appears to be so effective that if you share the car with another driver with a vastly different driving style, it does take awhile for the tranny to "re-learn" your driving style each time. In our situation, because I drive more aggressively than my wife, it is more an issue for me because the car would be sluggish until the tranny has adapted to my driving pattern.
  • sabrinaesabrinae Posts: 10
    So what's with the "paddles" on the steering wheel? Blurb states new auto tranny shifts from auto to manual with the paddles. Do they get in the way? How does it work? And would everyone hate me if I got the British flag on the roof???
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    The paddles allow for automatic drivers to pretend they're driving a car with a manual. They click a paddle - video game style - then there's a lag and the car shifts up or down a gear depending on the direction the driver pushed for a gear change. It's hokey and serves no real purpose. It's still an automatic, still has a torque converter and within a few days of getting the car, nobody really messes with the gimmicky paddles again.
  • joem5joem5 Posts: 201
    There a gimmick that I Box players buy.
    The British flag is nice,but I'd stay away from S. Boston and Irish pubs. :shades:
  • sabrinaesabrinae Posts: 10
    As long as the paddles don't get in the way I'm cool. As for the flag, I live in a small town in Texas, are minis bullet proof :) I think I will put them on the wing mirrors too. :shades:
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,420
    No problem for me. I immediately red line any vehicle I own :P

    I thought the paddle shifter was okay if you like that sort of thing. As you say, it's not a "real" manual transmission controlled by electronics, it's still an automatic and you aren't doing anything much different than the person with the 1965 Buick shoving the gear lever from L to D.

    The British flag is okay because as the driver you don't have to look at it every day. Graphics can get "old" and you can't ever sell it to a Frenchman.


  • sabrinaesabrinae Posts: 10
    Thanks, that's a really good point. No graphics then, well maybe the rear view mirror.
    So I get a cooper automatic with no frills. Is the S worth sacrificing the gas mileage to get it instead?
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Yeah, I agree all manumatics are gimmicky. After the first week, you would only play with them once in awhile when you get bored.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,420
    Depends on whether you are a "spirited" driver. The S has all this extra power, but do you use it? The S is a turbo car. Depending on your age, status, etc, this might also afffect insurance rates.


  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,692
    All -S- models have them... base models don't, unless you go for upgraded wheels... That may be an issue..

    If you don't get an -S-, I recommend the sport seats as an option for $250 (standard on the -S-).

    Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    "Is the S worth sacrificing the gas mileage to get it instead?"

    Depends on several factors. Are you an aggressive driver? Do you regularly carry more than 1 passenger? Do you carry heavy cargo? Are there hills where you drive? If you say no to all, or even most, of the above, then the Base would probably be ok.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,593
    I just got back from a twenty-minute test drive of a 2006 Cooper S/Steptronic. The car was a blast to drive but I have to say it would've been even better with a standard. Problem w the Autobox in this car is that there's a built in lag before the boost builds up added to the normal lag for the torque converter to hook up. This can result in a certain amount of snatchiness in the way the drivetrain responds. Read the Edmund's
    long term test and try to get a long drive before deciding.

    This car is definitely on my shopping list, I'm certain you could learn to drive it it certain ways to counter the defects of the drivetrain and get used to the fairly idiosyncratic controls and instruments (no temp guage in a Supercharged car?) I found it fling-able in the way that my '83 GTI was something I doubt you could say about many modern cars.

    FWIW, I found it easier to use the lever rather than the paddles even though the up/down shift positions are backwards of what they should be.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

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