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MINI Cooper



  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Posts: 1,339
    Go to and read the forum outlining all of the problems folks are having with their Cooper and Cooper S's. Maybe when some of these issues are dealt with, I'll consider ordering a car.
  • crcoxecrcoxe Posts: 72
    I have seen the reports of problems on and have little to say in response. Mostly because I have yet to experience any of these problems myself. What I will say is that it appears as though many of the gripes seem to be coming from owners in Europe and that even with these problems, they still appear to be very satisfied with the car. MINI / BMW service appears to be among the best - especially for an under $20K car.

    As with any new brand, there will be some glitches. When you buy any new car (especially one like the MINI that is not built on the platform of an existing model), you should expect that some of these things might happen and be willing to deal with them when/if they do come up. That's why there is a 4 year/50,000 mile warranty. It's also why I amended my insurance policy to include rental car reimbursement - just in case. It could be an inconvenience, but at least it's covered. Yes, I am an optimist (probably to a fault), but I think that the MINI will do just fine in the long term. Besides, it's SOOOOO fun to drive ...
  • hpulley4hpulley4 Posts: 591
    If you actually check mini2 you'll see that new cars have most of the problems worked out. Alignment problems, windshield problems and shift linkage are all fixed in recent builds. So I'd say some, if not most, of the problems have been dealt with already. For a first-year of a brand new car design, I'd say it has not been too bad. The shifter linkage problem on some early built Coopers is the scariest problem, IMO, and I hear they are now preventatively fixing that in some areas (not mine yet but hopefully they'll let me know soon if mine is affected). So far after 2.5 months and 4500kms I've only had one minor interior issue fixed, back of driver's seat cover's clips broke -- already replaced.

    Go check out vwvortex (the VW board), the Subaru boards, heck even engine sludge on the Toyota boards and you'll see that most car companies unfortunately build some cars with problems and people who buy them post about their problems.
  • segestasegesta Posts: 27
    Just got back from driving (a rented Lancia wagon, not a Mini!) through northern Italy for two weeks. Many Mini sightings, and nearly all were Pure Silver and black. Which just happens to be my color combo here at home.

    For whatever the heck that was worth. Oh, and none appeared to have ridiculous dealer bolt-ons. That must be an American phenomenon.
  • wolf22301wolf22301 Posts: 10
    I used to live in Rome and was surprised at the number of grey cars. Everyone I knew who ordered a new car got it in grey, especially those in upwardly mobile wheels like Merc and BMW. It seems they are slaves to fashion. I have to admit that the Mini in silver with a black roof is chic looking. I just worry about its perceptivity in marginal lighting situations. I want a color that ensures that other drivers (especially those in SUV who are talking on phones) can see me. I had the scary experience recently of almost running down a tiny car (dark green Geo Swift) that was going slowly in the left lane. To my eyes it appeared several car lengths further ahead, I almost ran into the back of her. I'm ordering either red or yellow with a white roof and mirrors. Actually, I'd love a white car with red roof, but suspect that's not an option yet.
  • stryderstryder Posts: 140
    I don't think any roof colors besides White and Black are official options yet, However I know there's a person who regularly posts on MINI2 with a red cooper with a green roof that was ordered through some special catalog that was an option in the UK. See if you ask the right people at MINI USA, maybe it is possible. They can't deny its an option in the UK, so perhaps it might become an option for US cars if there's interest.
  • I've had my MCS/PS/BLK for one month and 4000 miles and have no complaints. The car handles like nothing I've owned or ever driven.
    Planned upgrades are carbon fiber intake, coil-over suspension and exhaust....hoping to hit the 200hp mark.
  • muffin_manmuffin_man Posts: 865
    hoping to hit the 200hp mark with intake and exhaust?
  • hpulley4hpulley4 Posts: 591
    At least at the crank (where most other manufacturers measure) as it seems like BMW/MINI really underestimated the engine numbers. People are getting over 110HP at the wheels of stock Coopers and over 160HP at the wheels in stock MCS cars on dynos. Assuming a 15% drivetrain loss, you might say stock Coopers put out over 127HP at the crank and MCS already puts out over 184HP there. That means you'd just need at most 16HP of gain which would be quite good but not impossible with changes to the intake and exhaust.

    ECU re-flashing, SC belt changes, new head, etc. are what Cooper Works adds along with intake and exhaust to get even more out of it.
  • You can get body-colour roofs, as well. So 3 choices are available.

    Whatever colour the rest of your car is.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    they had a roof painted in the Union Jack available? That would be cool - I would lay down the money for that!

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Posts: 1,339
    The Union Jack, checkered flag, and American flag roof treatments are decal kits, I believe, not paint. If you want a white Cooper with a red roof, you could order a solid Pepper White Cooper and have a bodyshop paint the roof - should be easy as long as you don't have a sunroof!
  • muffin_manmuffin_man Posts: 865
    Wow, if that's true, it's very impressive. But it seems like if those were the right numbers, the car would test better.
  • crcoxecrcoxe Posts: 72
    ... are inevitable, I know. It's just sooooooo frustrating when the first one appears on a brand new car. Especially when I put it there myself. Hard to admit to people I don't know, but it's true. On one of my few stops at the gas station, I was getting out of the car when I hit the concrete bar that protects the pump with the door. Sure enough, a glaring door ding. Aaarrggh!!!

    Which begs the question, did anyone else get touch-up paint from their MINI dealer? I did not and am now uncertain as to whether I should have, or if I can get some now. Any thoughts?
  • hpulley4hpulley4 Posts: 591
    Some people are running 6.5s 0-60 in the MCS. For a car of it's curb weight with FWD and its tall gearing I think that is fairly decent.

    I didn't get touch up paint with my car but I bet they'll sell you some if you ask nicely.
  • muffin_manmuffin_man Posts: 865
    Sounds good, keep us posted on your car.
  • "they had a roof painted in the Union Jack available? That would be cool - I would lay down the money for that!"

    Several roof decals are available of many different countries, not just the three silver_bullet mentioned. They are perforated (like the adverts on city buses) to allow light through (ideal if you have the panorama glass roof), yet still look solid from the outside. They can, of course, be removed later on if you change your mind).

    I purchased touch up paint for my Cooper S (Chili Red) for $20 Cdn (I got a discount because I used to work at the dealership). It comes with a bottle of clear coat, as well).

    P.S. I HATE stone chips!
  • hpulley4hpulley4 Posts: 591
    You can remove decals on the roof and the bonnet stripes but if you do it years later you'll probably find the paint surrounding the covered area has faded more that that under the decal (unless these are some newfangled ones that allow UV to pass through).
  • rickroverrickrover Posts: 602
    You can also go to a paintless dent repair place - Here in Florida I use Dent Doctor but there are a lot of other companies that do it. They basically massage the dent out with special tool from behind the panel. Most recently a shovel handle fell off my garage wall and put a small crease in my X5's hood and my GTI got caught in a hail storm that put 6 or 7 small dents in it's hood- no problemo for the dent doctor guy, he came out and massaged all the damage out of both cars to good as new condition, I highly recommend paintless dent repair, I paid $150 for both cars. Cheap considering what a body shop would have charged and I still have my original factory paint job intact.

    Another product that's good for touching up minor paint scratches is Langka - you use the factory touch up paint with Langka for a perfect touch up. Check out

    I am anal about the condition of my cars - Dent Doctor and Langka keep my sanity intact.
  • Here in Utah there is only one Mini dealer and they have eight or so cars but all are sold. They say 9-10 months wait for an S and it requires a $2K deposit.

    I've seen a few Minis at non-Mini lots with substantial markups. I'm not willing to go that route.

    Is there an internet site where you can determine if any one Mini dealer across the US has the car you are looking for? Are there any Mini dealers out West that typically have cars available?

    9 months seems like a long time to wait by today's manufacturing/dealer network standards. Is that the norm for an ordered S?
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