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  • I bought my MINI from MINI of Murray, Utah. I live in Texas so the situation was similar. My experience was great. They did all of the arrangements over the phone or fax, they kept me informed about arrival time, they picked me up at the airport, the car was prepped and ready, I would out of there in about an hour. It could not have gone better. And the car has been perfect. Manual Cooper with sport plus suspension. It has been about a year and I could not be happier.
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  • drgreydrgrey Posts: 10
    My dealer gave me the bad news that she can't order my new MC CVT with the cassette instead of the CD player if I want the Nav system. Anyone have a Nav and cassette? Anyone understand why they won't do that? Any workaround suggestions? Many thanks.
  • stryderstryder Posts: 140
    Are you looking at the Harmon Kardon system? I think that may be the problem, not the Nav H/K isn't available with cassette anymore, but Nav + Cassette could be a recent thing with the same reasons.

    I can't remember what the logic for not having Cassette was, but I'm pretty sure it was something like 'we need to do more development work - and its a very unpopular combination, so we won't' My recollection is they changed a computer on board, and it wasn't compatible.

    You could always get an aftermarket radio (make sure one that can accept the Nav input, so you obviously don't lose the voice) and then you could have a cassette

    You are getting the cassette to play cassettes right? Not for some other reason like using an Aux input cassette or something?
  • drgreydrgrey Posts: 10
    Thanks nekekal and stryder for your responses. I'm very satisfied with my initial contacts with MINI of Murray, the car order went in today and I'm hoping for delivery before May 1st. It's a surprise for my wife. She thinks we're going to Salt Lake City to pick up a rental car for a road trip to visit Park City, Bryce, Zion and the Grand Canyon. I hope she's happy about the "rental car"!!

    I do plan to use the cassette for tapes-we listen to a lot of books-on-tape, so the cassette players in our cars are used more than the CD players. The solution I came up with was to go with the CD in the dash, because of the Nav system, have the aux input jack put in the lower part of the console, and use a good walkman-type portable cassette player for the book tapes-but I'm open to other suggestions!
  • stryderstryder Posts: 140
    I think that idea works well, either that or you could get the parcel shelf for under the steering wheel, and put the cassette player in there.

    Or just get an aftermarket head unit, which you can always do later on depending on how your plan works out, its not a big investment to get the aux kit and a walkman.

    Sounds like you're exciting, and I hope your wife is too, but I'm pretty sure she'll like the car, very few people don't, which is a nice benefit.
  • mollymolly Posts: 2
    I'm contemplating purchasing a manual transmission Mini (base model) although I have never driven a stick shift car. Is this a good idea? I drove the CVT and felt like it didn't have enough get-up-and-go for quick pull-outs. I have to admit, I am a bit of a lead-foot :)

    My question is: does the manual transmission (base model) have THAT much better performance than the CVT auto, which would warrant me buying the manual and learning how to drive it? Or is auto just as good? I would love to hear your opinions!
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,643
    If you are concerned about take-off from a stop the manual will give you better response. Not only that but the Cooper S model which is faster yet is Manual shift only, it's the lead-foot version.

    It takes only a week or so to learn to drive the stick.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • ozone1ozone1 Posts: 87
    I'll take my CVT against a manual any day. I haven't found the manual to be any faster, but it may be worthwhile to learn to drive a stick anyway. Completely up to you.
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    There is the perception that manual transmission cars are quicker and faster than automatics, but in reality, the difference is mostly in responsiveness rather than outright speed in day-to-day driving.

    With the greater control offered by a manual tranmission, you can select a gear that provides the power you want/need, rather than living with the automatic's tendency to keep the engine at a lower RPM to get less noise and better fuel economy. This is very noticeable in twisty driving where you can leave the car in one gear or two and have good power for both acceleration and braking. It is much easier to drive quicker and smoother with the greater gear control of the manual.

    True, 0-60 times are better for the manual, but this is mostly due to being able to rev the engine and brutally drop the clutch with the manual, using the stored up energy to get wheelspin and launch the car. In a rolling start with the clutch completely engaged, the difference is much, much smaller.

    So I'd get what you want to drive on a day-to-day basis and let the power fall where it may. Power is like salary - you generally always have enough and you generally always want more.

    - Mark
  • ozone1ozone1 Posts: 87
    What makes the CVT such a nice feature is that you have the manual option and can shift the gears for yourself, just like a manual, but without the clutch. The reason why I can match and beat manual Coopers off the line is I can rev the engine just like the manual (with my left foot on the brake) in the 1st simulated gear in manual mode and then launch. In the twisties, again, I put the CVT in manual mode and downshift and upshift as necessary to stay within the optimal power range. The only thing the CVT is missing...is the clutch. There is also no CVT version for the MCS, just the MC
  • drgreydrgrey Posts: 10
    I've ordered my red MC with white wheels. Another owner told me he gets so much brake dust on the front wheels, that the white would always look dirty and BAD!He has alloy wheels. Anyone have experience with the white wheels? Thanks.
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    It is pretty much universally acknowledged that if you want them to look nice, you're going to be cleaning white wheels every few days. If this bothers you, I'd change your order.

    - Mark
  • mollymolly Posts: 2
    Is there ANY chance of getting a discount off of the MSRP on a mini (US east coast)? I don't want to pay MSRP unless I have to, but I have a feeling that I will have to.

    Thanks!
  • stryderstryder Posts: 140
    There's a vague chance you might get a deal, especially from dealers that have a lot of stock. Mini of the Hamptons comes to mind, but don't expect it to be more then a few hundred. With it being the middle of the model year, there's not a lot of inventory sitting around. More likely, you can get some free stuff, floor mats, maybe some accesories you like etc.

    Don't go kicking yourself because you didn't get a good deal, you want the car, pay the price its selling at (you can crosscheck edmunds' TMV) and you'll be rewarded with a great car and it will have high residual value, which benefits all - way more then saving 1/2% off MSRP.
  • Nobody likes paying MSRP, but the Cooper is worth it. I am in Texas and found mine in Florida at MSRP in stock. I had them throw in floor mats. You probably could get a mug or two also.

    Just go for it.

    Stacy
  • martin44martin44 Posts: 25
    Would like to know city and highway mileage Cooper S drivers are getting. Is it necessary to use premium gas? Thanks.
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    I'm getting 22 around town, 27 on the highway. EPA ratings are something like 24/34, but these are optimistic.

    Premium gas is required. The engine has knock sensors so presumably it runs without hurting itself on regular, but it hardly makes sense to spend extra for the performance of the S so you can feed it gas that makes it perform like the regular MC.

    - Mark
  • martin44martin44 Posts: 25
    22/27 is not bad. Good advice on premium. Thank you.
  • jojojojo Posts: 1
    Please could anyone provide some feedback on how the mini handles in the snow. I live in the North East and drive to the ski slopes each weekend throughout the winter. I currently have an A4 AWD which handles the conditions like a dream but its time to change and I really love the mini. Someone suggested that as long as I had snow tires on it would be no issue but I am nervous and would love to hear from anyone that actually drives the car in the snow.

    Thanks in advance
  • stryderstryder Posts: 140
    If you have snow tires + ordered DSC, you're generally ok. You can't drive in snow much deeper then the ground clearance 4" or so. If you expect to have to plow snow to get to your ski area, you might not be able to do it, but if its just snow on the ground, you should be fine with good tires. You may lose some ability compared to your A4, but if driving on acceptably plowed or only moderate snowy roads, you won't notice. The 4" clearance is the key.
  • JingleJillJingleJill Posts: 120
    I averaged 25mpg on my first full tank of gas; both highway and city driving. I just took a mini road trip and averaged about 30mpg. Still haven't reached break-in. I know fellow "s" owners that are getting around 30mpg as well.
  • I just purchased a 2004 Mini (it's in Gold and very sharp looking) with CVT. So far I love it, I have only about 200 miles on it. I've noticed that it seems to shift hard in the lower gears (both gearing up or down), to the point of passengers making remarks about the jerking. Is this normal? Will it go away with time? The messages on this board have been very helpful already and I hope you can give me some insight. Thanks,
  • ozone1ozone1 Posts: 87
    If you are driving normally (ie no abrupt acceleration), you should barely notice the shifting at all. Maybe slightly when you come to a complete stop. The CVT does need to adjust to your driving style, so I would give it at least 1000 miles before taking it in. If you still experience a jarring shift, go get it checked out, this is not normal at all
  • rsunicorsunico Posts: 82
    Has anyone actually paid less than 500 bucks below MSRP? I heard this was possible only at the end of the model year. I bought my 04 MCS at Prestige MINI in Mahwah, NJ. Good dealership.

    mossmini.com has brake covers that are supposed to help with the dust problem...

    - Renato
    www.newyorkmini.org
    come motor with us!
  • dan7dan7 Posts: 6
    So i was deciding in buying a mini or a Mazda 3, this is really a tough decision, i love BMWs so i really want to go with the Mini, but i also want sometign that will give me good gas mileage, the fact that i have to put in premium gas makes me think COST, especially now that summer is just around the corner and premium gas will shoot way up. Now if i get just the Mini Cooper (not the S) how much mileage do you all get? Also, can you drive it with regular gas (or middle octane?)

    Also, i live in CT, any good dealers around here that some of you may have come across? Also, should i be expecting to pay MSRP or can you get it for cheaper?

    thanks so much!
  • ozone1ozone1 Posts: 87
    As you hear on TV all the time...your mileage may vary. According to the MINI's trip computer, I am getting 27 and change miles to the gallon. I tend to rev it a lot though and we have hills in our area and lots of stop and go traffic (San Francisco). As for octane, MINI recommends premium gasoline for both the MCS and MC.
  • dan7dan7 Posts: 6
    do you have a MCS or MC?
  • Thanks Ozone1, the shifting has smoothed out already (after 1000 miles). Thanks again for your advice.
  • ozone1ozone1 Posts: 87
    Dan7-I have a MC with the CVT transmission

    Mininuggett-Glad to hear that worked out, don't you just love the CVT?
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