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  • hileatushileatus Posts: 10
    Perhaps this should go under Care & Maintenance but this group seems to respond quicker. My 05 MCS now has 10130 miles and I would like to know the correct tire rotation configuration. There is none in the manual. At 5000 I switched the front to the rear (couldn't figure out the best way to jack up the car so all 4 wheels would be off the ground; ???). Winston (the car) is shod with 195/55/16 Dunlop Sp 5000 runflats. Any help here would be appreciated. :confuse:
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    BMW has never recommended tire rotations on any of its cars. Not sure why. Cynical folks think it's because they tend to offer free maintenance, so why do something that's going to cost them and reduce their tire replacement business?

    In any event, you can certainly do it and it will help tire wear somewhat by making them wear more evenly. Some folks think it's absolutely essential, but on a FWD car like the Mini, you can probably just replace the fronts 2x the rears and do about as well. So I view it as important only if you're set on replacing all your tires at the same time.

    If you do rotate, you never want to rotate side-to-side if the tires are directional (designed to roll in one direction only) and yours probably are. In any event, I'd just swap front/rear on the same side. Obviously, there's no spare to worry about.

    - Mark
  • chedderchedder Posts: 5
    I'm amazed by the volume of posts on this forum!

    I am ready to purchase a 2002 Mini Cooper for what I think is a great price. It's got 21,200 miles on it, leather, roof, 5-speed and CD changer. I'm bringing it to a dealer to check it out before I commit. My question to the forum is, is it worth it? On the flip side of that question, and considering that I've seen many other Mini's with more miles go for more money, why is it so inexpensive? The dealer that I am buying the car from says it was listed for $2000 more and sat on the lot for 3 months. So perhaps he just lowered the price to get it off the lot?

    I relaize that I am answering my own questions here, but I am very close to closing the deal, and wanted a little more feedback that my own.

    Thanks all! :confuse:
  • bfromholdbfromhold Posts: 38
    Hi markjenn~

    I couldn't help but put my 2 cents worth in to your earlier post: "In the most current issue, they've published some updates, and Mini has improved to average and is now a recommended car. This is pretty strong evidence that, while it may not match Honda or Toyota reliability, it's improving with every year of the current design, and is now an easy match for virtually any European car and most American cars."

    I currently have a 2001 Honda Civic EX with only 74,000 miles. Well, this is my first Honda and my LAST!! I've had problems with this car that's inexcusable. Examples:

    * I had to pay to repair the sunroof only 2,500 miles past the factory warranty. :mad:

    * I just had the automatic transmission replaced at only 70,000 miles (and it had been serviced with all Honda parts/AT fluid 6 months ago). The dealer charges a whopping $3,500 to replace the transmission. :mad:

    I don't have much faith in "Asian" cars anymore than any other makes. Hopefully I'll have better luck with my MCS that I have on order. The only thing I'm still debating on is whether I should buy the extended maintenance & warranty. Does anyone have any comments or suggestions about extending the maintenance & warranty? Also, is an alarm better to get or a Lo Jack?
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    The only good data we have is Consumer Reports and they definitely show better reliability for Asian cars as a rule. Of course, this is just the averages and you can get a Toyota lemon or a Land Rover that is totally reiable. But while I'd still recommend a Honda or Toyota to someone whose #1 priority is a reliable car, the Mini's record has improved to the point where I don't think it's a big issue PROVIDED you have a dealer within reasonable driving distance. And I'd wait a year on the new model - BMW has a terrible track record of problems with new or revised models.

    The odds are that you'll spend more on the extended warranty than you'll make back on claims. If this weren't true, they wouldn't make any money on them and they most certainly make money on extended warranties - it's one of the most profitable segments of the car business, for both the dealer and the insurer. But peace of mind is worth something too. So buy it for this reason, not because you think it's a good deal, because it generally isn't.

    If you do get an extended warranty, you need to make sure it's from a reputable insurer - I don't think Mini itself has a factory sponrsored extended warranty program. And bargain hard - their is usually a lot of negotiating room in their list price for the warranty. There's no reason to get it when you buy the car - you can always buy it later and from another dealer. Finally, be careful of bogus piecemeal insurance like "wheel and tire insurance" and the like. They're almost always a total rip off.

    The car is under factory warranty for 4 years, so I don't see any reason to commit to an extended warrany for while.

    Have fun,

    - Mark
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    Since you don't mention a price, it's pretty hard to comment on whether the car is "worth it".

    Personally, I'd steer away from the 2002 cars at anything other than a blowout price. They have been extremely troublesome and tend to be plagued with shoddy interiors and rattles. 2002 was a clean sheet new design in a new factory - always a recipe for lots of problems. Mini made hundreds of changes in the 2003's and 2004's that have improved the car remarkably. 2004 and on are the "good years".

    - Mark
  • chedderchedder Posts: 5
    Yes, mentionig a price would've been a good idea..

    They are firm at $15,000. Is that a "blowout" price? Compared to others that I have seen, it is the best so far.

    The '04's look to be around $2000 more.

    I've read the posts about the rattling and (ugh) tranny problems. the rattling and interiors QC I can deal with. My biggest concern is the engine and tranny, which is why I am bringing the car to a Mini mechanic to look at.
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,032
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  • bfromholdbfromhold Posts: 38
    Mark ~

    Actually, I'm buying/ordering a 2006 MCS from Rasmussen Mini in Portland, OR. For some reason they don't have the back order problem like here in Washington. I was promised the car will be delivered sometime in late September to early October this year. They are selling the car to me at MSRP, and they're even throwing a few freebie items into the deal: sunshade and mats (front, back & boot). However, they are charging $175 for document fees and the trip permit (I guess I'm pretty much paying for the "free" items, huh?).

    I drive about 18,000 miles a year, so the 3 yr/36k maintenance is really only going to last me 2 years & the 4 yr/50k warranty will be up in 2.75 years. That's why I'm debating so much on the extended maintenance and warranty. Plus, considering the bad luck I've had with my Honda, I'm not too optimistic on reliability anymore. Interestingly enough, the price for the extensions are cheaper than the dealer here in Washington. Not too sure why... I guess I can wait and think about it. I don't believe I'd have to pay tax on the extension if I paid it Oregon as well?

    I'm also still toying over the possibility of getting the security alarm or the Lo jack. Are these cars hard to steal? I rarely park my car for extended periods of time in questionable areas. Do I really need an alarm? Has anyone out there had theft problems or vandalism to their cars?
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    Sounds like a fair deal at Rasmussen. Most folks seem to like them.

    Like I said, get the warranty if the peace of mind is worth it to you. But shop hard and read the fine print - don't make a snap decision when you're in the finance mgr's office signing the final paperwork. As I said, unlike most other mfgs, I don't think there is a standard extended warranty backed by Mini USA, so the price differences may be due to the different coverages of different carriers. If you don't have time to do the homework, I'd just postpone it - there is no advantage to buying the warranty at purchase unless you absolutely have to roll it into the financing.

    Don't know much about security systems or the theft risk of a Mini. A lot would depend in where you park the car and how good your insurance is.

    - Mark
  • SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
    Your post and responses were moved to the discussion MINI Cooper: Prices Paid & Buying Experiences
  • How are you guys knowing if they sell at MSRP? Is it on the car sticker at the dealer? And this is +Taxes, Tags, Title Correct?

    I'm headed over to Mini of Concord in SF Bay area on Saturday to test drive a Cooper with my wife. She's against one as she thinks its too unsafe but I'm at least going to test drive it with her. :) Am looking to sell my G35 Coupe but still want some fun.

    Andy
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    Several people have reported they've made MSRP deals at Concord. I think that's there public policy and doesn't require any negotiation. The drawback is that they usually have a longer waiting list than dealers who mark up over MSRP and then allow you to dicker them down.

    Yes, typically when someone says they bought at MSRP, they paid the bottom-line mfg sticker price (including destination), plus tax, title, and license fees (the stuff that is fixed by the state).

    I think Mini's are safe enough and are a blast to drive, but you definitely are going to be taking a huge step down from a G35 in terms of ride, comfort, outright speed, etc.

    - Mark
  • East Bay only charges MSRP and has a long wait. Concord routinely marks up pretty much every car in the lot (BMW or MINI) and I'm not aware of them coming down to MSRP. They certainly didn't do it when I tried to buy a car off the lot. Their "thing" is that they have a large inventory and if you want one you're going to have to pay.
  • This is what I've heard as well. Was out at Concord over the weekend. Spoke with internet/AAA/Costco selling named Mari. Very very nice woman.

    The cooper is currently going for $1100 over MSRP and the S some $1800. She said that she could get only $600 over MSRP for Costco or AAA members.

    -A
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Did Mini replace the CVT with a conventional 6-speed Steptronic for the Base Cooper for 2006? I didn't see any reference to CVT on the Mini.ca site.
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    I haven't heard this. I believe the CVT has a "step mode" to simulate a conventional tranny with discrete gears, but it's still a CVT.

    - Mark
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,757
    Did Mini replace the CVT with a conventional 6-speed Steptronic for the Base Cooper for 2006? I didn't see any reference to CVT on the Mini.ca site.

    AFAIK that is the case.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,032
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  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,032
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  • bpraxisbpraxis Posts: 292
    Why not purchase a new 2006 Mini or better yet 2007 for $18,000 with just the standard options?

    Why pay $15,000 for a used Mini when you can own a new one with a full warranty for $3000.00 more not to mention the quality problems for 2002.

    Enough said.............
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  • Mark,
    My question is seperate from warranty issue. Wanted to ask you what brand did you use when you did your brakes on your mini. I'm at the point where my factory pads probably need changing. I've got 33,000 on the odometer. Are O.E.M. pads worth it?
    Would like to hear your thoughts,
    Joe
  • cct1cct1 Posts: 221
    I'm not Mark, but I'll chime in...

    I'd stick with the OEM pads. There are other pads with better stopping power, and also less brake dust (greenstuff pads are popular on the Mini), but there have been several reports of people having issues with the rotors warping after going with a non OEM brake pad--I'd stick with the OEM pads.
  • Thanks CCT1. Will heed your advise.
    Joe
  • I have an 06 S and changed to the "Redbox" pads. They have 12k on them with no warping issues. I couldn't stand all the dust generated by the stock pads. I had to wash the wheels every 1-2 days and now I can go 1-1/2 to 2 weeks.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Does anyone know if the keyless entry can be programmed to auto-lock? Not auto relock (which I know it can do), but auto-lock, in the sense that you can park, exit, close the door, walk away, and the car will lock (and arm if so equipped) itself after a programmed number of minutes.
  • No comfort access will not autolock. It's the one design gaffe, imho.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 46,000
    Has anyone had experience with the sunroof creating too much buffeting and wind noise and really being annoying? I've heard this complaint a few times from MINI owners but haven't experienced it myself.

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