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Mazda Protege5

pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
edited October 24 in Mazda
here's some information from Edmunds.com's Future Telling.

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What do you think? Thanks for your comments. ;-)

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  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    If this vehicle is produced in Hiroshima Japan, as are the rest of the Protege's, this vehicle will have rock solid build quality and reliability. Mazda is the king of zoom in the econo sports sedan category and now they are producing one of my favorite configurations, a hatchback!!!

    -Larry
  • Love the yellow paint, but I'm not sure about the front end. Maybe a little to impreza-like.
  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Posts: 1,339
    protegextwo, hate to rain on your parade, but the upcoming Subaru WRX sedan and sportwagons will eat this car for breakfast, and still be hungry afterwards.
  • vadpvadp Posts: 1,025
    As I remember you had (still have?) some doubts about the WRX. Actually you were questioning if the WRX performance gains over the RS engine are worth of extra 5K.
    The Protege is gonna have aprox the same lb/hp rating as the turboless Impreza.
    What's you point?
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Do you have an estimate of what the 2002 Imprenza will sell for?
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    Edmunds, and I'm sure others as well, has the prices posted already.
  • vadpvadp Posts: 1,025
    No prices at Edmunds as yet.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    OK, I get the picture on pricing. My point here was somebody was comparing apples and oranges. The Protege 5 comes in around $18K and the Imprenza around $24K. $6K can buy you a heck of an engine mod.

    :)
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    I agree, and I certainly don't pick a car so I could eat other cars for breakfast.
  • Hopefully the littlr women does too. Or else it looks like we will be spending 26k on a Passat Wagon or 22k on a Jetta wagon. We looked at the WRX at the autoshow and she said "I can't believe someone would make a car that ugly."
  • otis12otis12 Posts: 160
    I think most folks, or me at least, are looking at the Protege BB as an economy model with sporty aspiration, not a performance wagon ale an Audio or Mercedes. It' sheep in wolf's clothes, so to speak. I like the front end, especially the fog lights, but the chrome rims don't do much for me. A little more plain Jan and cheaper is okay by me.
  • otis12otis12 Posts: 160
    I think most folks, or me at least, are looking at the Protege HB as an economy model with sporty aspiration, not a performance wagon ala an Audi or Mercedes. It'a sheep in wolf's clothes, so to speak. I like the front end, especially the fog lights, but the chrome rims don't do much for me. A little more plain Jane and cheaper is okay by me.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,703
    I love the looks of this. Although, I wouldn't call it a hatchback. Granted, it does literally have a "hatch" at the rear. But, if that were the only qualification, then all SUVs would also be hatchbacks.

    Anyway, I have to say that I'll be disappointed if this doesn't get more power. I hear what you're saying, Otis12, about wanting it to remain an economy model, but economy doesn't necessarily have to be synonymous with slow.

    Personally, I'd be happy if this and/or the MP3 were given the option of the 2.2 supercharged engine. Leave the 2 liter as the base for those who want it, but give us seeking some pep another choice. But, that's always been a fault of Mazda: very few choices for the buyer.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    I am sure the new Subaru WRX Sportswagon will be an awesome vehicle, but I would not call it's MSRP "econo"! Hehe,.... nonetheless, everything I heard about it is top box. If you purchase one enjoy it, my friend. However, I think the Mazda Sports HB-ES will give nice pop for the buck. I am very excited and looking forward to taking a test drive.

    Respectfully;
    Protegextwo
  • ramonramon Posts: 825
    are not in the same league! Price wise and performance wise.

    The P5 would best compared to other wagons like the saturn, new jetta wagon, impreza wagons, etc... I saw the P5 in person and I really like the looks. I always dig the proteges. My recommendation to everyone who wants a value car which is way better than civics.
    now bring back the rx-7 and i'll believe the Zoom Zoom moniker!
  • pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
    Actually, Mazda refers to it as a "5 door sport" and they seem to leave it at that. They also mention that it's "not your ordinary sports sedan." Seems like they're trying to put it into a whole new category.

    In any case, I think with 5 doors and the hatch on the back, it's certainly appropriate for the Hatchbacks Message Board.

    Thanks everyone for your input. Talk later. ;-)

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  • mfarmer2mfarmer2 Posts: 67
    and it's kind of small for a station wagon. I think Mazda is being evasive about what this new 5-door Protege is because they're trying to capture all markets. Many Americans have the misconception that hatchbacks are cheap, and that station wagons are as dowdy as minivans. Even suv's are losing their appeal with high gas costs and the recent safety (roll over) issues.

    Considering all these factors, rumor has it that hatchbacks are coming back. Perhaps when more of them hit the market, the attitude will change and people will appreciate the functional aspects of hatchbacks more. And it's about time that we start getting some good alternatives to gas guzzling suv's! I'm only considering this new Protege because it is a hatchback.

    Regardless of what they call it, I think it will do well because of it's sporty features combined with it's funtional nature of being a hatchback. I've read that it will also have 60/40 split fold-down rear seats for more versatility. Also, the roof rack will be standard. Does anyone know anything about the gas mileage? I imagine it should be pretty decent. My 2 cents.

    Mary
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Mileage should be no different than the 2001 2.0 Protege: 25/31 in a Manual Trans.
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    I owned a 91 Ford Escort hatchback(a rebadged Mazda 323,with Ford sheet mental, Mazda engine, Mazda tranny and Mazda build quality). That little sucker was nearly perfect for a newly married couple. The versatility of the rear hatch coupled with the 60/40 split rear seat backs was awesome. It looked like a fairly handsome econo-sedan(hey, this was 1991, hehe!) but could be used like a small wagon if needed. Perfect for bringing home the Christmas tree or the modular computer desk from Walmart. The only problem,... the two side-door configuration made it very hard to put in the baby seat when our son came along! We traded that little gem in on a 2000 Mazda Protege ES.
  • pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
    The word "Protege" has been removed from the title to reflect the accurate name of this new car: "Mazda 5 door sport." If you have bookmarked this discussion, it will still work; but you may want to mark it again, so it will also reflect the title correction. Sorry for the confusion.

    Thanks for your participation. ;-)

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  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    I'm sure we will be seeing several revisions until the Sport Wagon(as it is being called at the upcomming NY auto show) finally hits the showroom floor.

    :)
  • pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
    I'm simply going by what Mazda is calling it: "Mazda 5-door Sport." I'm not so sure Mazda will be revising this. IMHO. As for what it's actual nhtsa classification, that may be a whole different story....

    Talk later. ;-)


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  • mfarmer2mfarmer2 Posts: 67
    Great gas mileage! Any speculation about the pricing?

    Poca- Isn't it possible to link this discussion to more than one board, like they do with the road side cafe? Just an idea. :-)

    Mary
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