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Mazda Protege5



  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That looks more like a Mazda 6 wagon than a P5. But the actual 6 wagon is nicer looking, sleeker. That photochop looks like it stole the D-pillar from the Pontiac Vibe.

  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    Which looks pretty ugly IMO. Ditto the C-pillar on the new Altima. What're designers thinking? That kind of stuff looks unnecessarily busy and ruins the lines of cars. Now check out the back end of the new BMW 7-series. That is UGLY! Shame. The rest of the car looks OK.
  • Does anyone know if and when the Japanese version of the Pro5 will be available in Nth America? It has 170 hp and I am thinking about waiting for it.
  • riopelleriopelle Posts: 132
    I love my P5, and think it looks much better without the roof rack (which I had removed by the dealer) But I must say I think this photoshop concept is significantly better looking than the current P5 - it's got a bit of Audi TT or BMW Z3 in the line (maybe some Peuguot too), a nice long hood, and I love the lower greenhouse and the shorter overhangs. This is a nice complement to the New Mazda6 - will they rename the Protege and P5 as numbers too? Five requests for the next P5, Mazda - heated leather seats as an option, 6 speakers, 150+hp, MSRP no more than $20K, and keep the same great handling of my car. Meanwhile, I will continue to love my P5.
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    The official word is that the Pro5 as you see it now is a 1 year only deal. One looooooong model year as it premiered as a very early '02 and will stay late.

    There will certainly be a wagon version of the next-generation Protege when it is redesigned along with the Ford Focus. The next Proteges will be built off the all-new Ford Focus platform, as will the Volvo 40-series cars.

    It is expected that bigger engines and more power will come to the US with that next generation of cars.

    Everything else is rumor, inuendo, and hearsay. :--)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I agree 100% on the BMW 7 series. They should lock that hunchback up in a church, and watch, it would yell "sanctuary!"

  • elec3elec3 Posts: 160
    Still a good job, but notice how the backgrounds look artificial and out of focus. The stones (I think) under the car could be real but that green hill and the blue/gray stuff? Hmm. The glass doesn't exactly look right either. Anyway, I don't know if I'd buy one of those or not. The lines are not as smooth as the current Pro5. The front of this concept looks a little Mercedes but the nose is all stubby. The back end reminds me a bit of an Audi or the newer Volvos. It doesn't look bad but it's no improvement over what's currently offered. Notice in that picture how much of the car looks to be wheels :)

    meaford: Don't hold your breath. We'll likely never see the 170 horse, AWD version of the Pro5 sold in Japan.

    Sporin: I was actually hoping for that as it may make the Pro5 retain some value as a "limited edition" model. IMHO the Protege5 is far better than any of the Focus wagon/hatchback offerings, at least in terms of looks. I'm hoping and wishing the new Focus based Protege line will not prove to be better than the current line so that when I go to sell my Pro5 in 4-5 years, it'll actually have retained some value.

    As far as power, more would be nice, and in about a year I'll be working full time and should have the money to mess with my Pro5. If I stay in southern New Mexico, I'm looking at a cold air intake, new exhaust headers, a straight pipe in place of the catalytic converter (there are no emissions tests here because there are no people and is no pollution), a freer flow exhaust and muffler, probably some nice tint and a better stereo system. No Type-R sticker or racing team decals though ;) I'd just like some more power. Which is why I'm contemplating a Subaru WRX for a next vehicle.
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    I'm planning on adding the AEM ShortStack intake and a cat-back exhaust in the spring. Bosel sells a unit that removes one of the cats (48-state legal).
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    Too bad. I like the P5 as it is now (maybe a little more hp and torque). I definitely think its styling is tops amongst the wagon/5-dr hatchback crowd (even amongst 3-dr hatches). Even the Lexus sport wagon looks lumpy and disproportioned in comparison.

    I DO NOT like the concept that was recently posted. Looks like a shoe. Front end is one big slab (I don't think that was an improvement on the current Passat over the old either). It also seems visibility is compromised greatly. That impacts vehicle safety.
  • Rob360Rob360 Posts: 33
    I must say that I am surprised by some of the mileage numbers being posted here. They seem quite low. I am very happy to report that I am getting close to 32 mpg! My last tank I got 33.5 mpg!

    I drive about 80% on the freeway. If you use a light foot, keep the car at about 70 mph on the freeway, and accelerate slowly and evenly on city streets, this car is capable of getting great mileage!

    I have 2100 miles on my Vivid Yellow P5 and so far I LOVE it! =)
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    I can drive it like I stole is and still get 28mpg. :-)
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I used to have a 2001 Protege ES automatic, and I drove it pretty hard. I used to get like 23-25 mpg on regular with it. I now have a 2002 Jetta 1.8T, and get about the same (on premium fuel though) but the car has a LOT more power than the Pro ES did.
  • elec3elec3 Posts: 160
    Depending on god knows what. Temperature, how I drive it, city/highway. I can vouch that my fuel gauge is way nonlinear though :) I filled up today and drove 100 miles and my gauge indicates I still have 3/4 of a tank. While 400 miles on 14 gallons would be nice, it ain't gonna happen. At least not for me. I think fuel economy may be a bit worse here because the gas is 86 octane to compensate for altitude...I'm just above 4000 feet. Also, I tend to drive fast, or at least at high rpms once the engine is warmed up. Sure you could shift at 3000 all the time but that means you've got 3500 revs you never use. Also speed limits out here are 70 or 75 making driving 70-80mph very reasonable.

    And for anyone curious, with my automatic, 70mph is achieved at just a hair over 3000rpm and 80 can be done at 3500. This car is a tremendous expressway commuter type car and is very quick and agile in the 60-80mph range. 80 is pretty effortless and very stable and everything up to that point the Pro does with a salute and a "Yes sir!" Beyond 80 you get more of a "Are you sure you want to do that, Dave? Well...ok..." :)
  • my beautiful midnight blue mp5 was egged sometime last night, once on the windshield, once on the rear passenger door...left a mess. Went to self-serve carwash today and cleaned it off withe the high pressure hose.

    then when i examined the car, i think i found the point of impact on the door...what looks like small circular radiating scratch marks about the diameter of an egg. is this possible? can an egg thrown at impact cause fairly large, visible scratches in the paint? or is it just stuck residue that i wasn't able to clean off? i tried some bug/tar remover on it, and it didnt' work so now i'm really worried that it's scratched.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    I hate to say it, but I think that an egg thrown with any degree of force could easily leave scratch marks, especially at the point of impact. The egg shell is definitely harder than the paint and therefore could scratch the paint. I really feel for you :(
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Posts: 1,583
    and buff that thing out!

    btw, mind if I ask why you were egged in the first place? Perhaps someone jealous of your beautiful P5?
  • tbaytbay Posts: 22
    Would appreciate feedback about how the P5 does with its wide low profile tires in the snow. Thanks.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,742
    ...yep - my sister-in-law's black 300M has an oval shaped spot with literally about 2 dozen scratches from where the egg hit the door with a glancing blow. Took the black off right down to the gray primer.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    you almost kill me since I couldn't stop laughing. ;-)
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