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Mazda Protege5

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  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    I am sure the new Subaru WRX Sportswagon will be an awesome vehicle, but I would not call it's MSRP "econo"! Hehe,.... nonetheless, everything I heard about it is top box. If you purchase one enjoy it, my friend. However, I think the Mazda Sports HB-ES will give nice pop for the buck. I am very excited and looking forward to taking a test drive.

    Respectfully;
    Protegextwo
  • ramonramon Posts: 825
    are not in the same league! Price wise and performance wise.

    The P5 would best compared to other wagons like the saturn, new jetta wagon, impreza wagons, etc... I saw the P5 in person and I really like the looks. I always dig the proteges. My recommendation to everyone who wants a value car which is way better than civics.
    now bring back the rx-7 and i'll believe the Zoom Zoom moniker!
  • pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
    Actually, Mazda refers to it as a "5 door sport" and they seem to leave it at that. They also mention that it's "not your ordinary sports sedan." Seems like they're trying to put it into a whole new category.

    In any case, I think with 5 doors and the hatch on the back, it's certainly appropriate for the Hatchbacks Message Board.

    Thanks everyone for your input. Talk later. ;-)

    Pocahontas
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  • mfarmer2mfarmer2 Posts: 67
    and it's kind of small for a station wagon. I think Mazda is being evasive about what this new 5-door Protege is because they're trying to capture all markets. Many Americans have the misconception that hatchbacks are cheap, and that station wagons are as dowdy as minivans. Even suv's are losing their appeal with high gas costs and the recent safety (roll over) issues.

    Considering all these factors, rumor has it that hatchbacks are coming back. Perhaps when more of them hit the market, the attitude will change and people will appreciate the functional aspects of hatchbacks more. And it's about time that we start getting some good alternatives to gas guzzling suv's! I'm only considering this new Protege because it is a hatchback.

    Regardless of what they call it, I think it will do well because of it's sporty features combined with it's funtional nature of being a hatchback. I've read that it will also have 60/40 split fold-down rear seats for more versatility. Also, the roof rack will be standard. Does anyone know anything about the gas mileage? I imagine it should be pretty decent. My 2 cents.

    Mary
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Mileage should be no different than the 2001 2.0 Protege: 25/31 in a Manual Trans.
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    I owned a 91 Ford Escort hatchback(a rebadged Mazda 323,with Ford sheet mental, Mazda engine, Mazda tranny and Mazda build quality). That little sucker was nearly perfect for a newly married couple. The versatility of the rear hatch coupled with the 60/40 split rear seat backs was awesome. It looked like a fairly handsome econo-sedan(hey, this was 1991, hehe!) but could be used like a small wagon if needed. Perfect for bringing home the Christmas tree or the modular computer desk from Walmart. The only problem,... the two side-door configuration made it very hard to put in the baby seat when our son came along! We traded that little gem in on a 2000 Mazda Protege ES.
  • pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
    The word "Protege" has been removed from the title to reflect the accurate name of this new car: "Mazda 5 door sport." If you have bookmarked this discussion, it will still work; but you may want to mark it again, so it will also reflect the title correction. Sorry for the confusion.

    Thanks for your participation. ;-)

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  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    I'm sure we will be seeing several revisions until the Sport Wagon(as it is being called at the upcomming NY auto show) finally hits the showroom floor.

    :)
  • pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
    I'm simply going by what Mazda is calling it: "Mazda 5-door Sport." I'm not so sure Mazda will be revising this. IMHO. As for what it's actual nhtsa classification, that may be a whole different story....

    Talk later. ;-)


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  • mfarmer2mfarmer2 Posts: 67
    Great gas mileage! Any speculation about the pricing?

    Poca- Isn't it possible to link this discussion to more than one board, like they do with the road side cafe? Just an idea. :-)

    Mary
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Price should be just under 17K and only comes in the ES grade which is top of the line for the Protege(sorry for using the "P" word Poca).

    When this thing gets here early this summer, expect to see good reviews with the exception of USA Today's James Healy(Mazda hater :p).
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    The "Mazda Protege Sport 5 Hatchback Wagon" topic is the way to go! That title is "off the hook", Hehe. Link it to the hatchback and wagon discussions and lets rock, dog. This car is gonna be the "crush"!!! Zoom Zoom Zoom!!!

    Regards;
    Protegedog4U
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,892
    I'm going to throw 2 evil terms out here. And, don't get me wrong, I'm a Mazda owner and really like it. But, when you dangle 180 horses and a 6-speed stick in front of my nose, I just may have to turn my head. The Matrix (Toyota) and Vibe GT (Pontiac) appear, on paper, to be more capable "5-door"s.

    Anybody else got an opinion on this?

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    There will always be a 1 up, but take a look at how Miata has done against a whole host of 'me too' sports cars. The Miata still gives the most bang for the buck and certain attributes are STILL unmatched by it's pricier competitors.

    Does anyone know if Toyota or Pontiac given any indication of pricing?

    :)
  • leomortleomort Posts: 451
    Not sure about prices, but if they'll be similiar in price to Coralla's they should run between 15-18 grand would be my guess. The 180 hp w/ AWD would probably be at the upper end of the price scale. Should be an interesting.

    Leo
  • pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
    this discussion is now linked to both the Hatchbacks Message Board & Station Wagons Message Board. From this point on, you'll be able to access this discussion from either one of these boards.

    Thanks to everyone here for your feedback on this subject. Happy motoring! ;-)

    Pocahontas
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  • tatu1tatu1 Posts: 50
    I guess I'm one of the few people who is kind of disappointed with this one, the prototype model had AWD and was being billed as a competitor to the Outback Wagons. Still, unless Honda brings back the Civic or the Accord wagons, I'll be looking at this one in the fall.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Prototypes are just that! They stir up attention and are used to gauge public opinion. However, when it comes down to production, if the market won't support the demand for an AWD, it's not worth the investment. This type of thing is similar to what happened to the RX-7. When the demand went down, it was a no brainer to stop importing it and not have to redesign it to meet OBD II specifications.

    Making an AWD version would most likely price the car out of the range of the target buyer and would be a lost investment for Mazda. Besides, it would be tough for Mazda to compete with Subaru for that small portion of the market that wants AWD.

    :)
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