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Mazda Protege5

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  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    Mine warped after 12k and the dealer wanted to charge me $100 to turn them. The after market Brembos made more sense in my case.
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    If the dealer turned your rotors under warranty at 17,500, then count yourself lucky. According to the terms of the warranty, they shouldn't have.

    Brakes fall under the following headings in my warranty manual:

    Adjustments:
    Minor repairs not usually associated with replacement of parts. Covered for 12 months or 12,000 miles.

    What is not covered: Maintenance is at Owner's Expense
    Maintenance services such at worn brake linings, etc.

    Perhaps they warrant their rotors further, but it is not implicit in the manual. I personally would not expect my dealer to turn my rotors for free at 17,500 unless it happened right after a wheel rotation or something similar where they might have over torqued the lug nuts and caused the warping.
  • meinradmeinrad Posts: 820
    I never expected them to do it. I didn't even ask.

    He felt them pulsing during the clutch chatter test drive and asked if I wanted that fixed. I told him I wasn't ready to pay for it and he told me I wouldn't have to.

    I don't really remember how he stated it, but he said rotors were indeed covered.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    what are the reasons they get warped? Aren't they supposed to be very consistently built through out the manufacturing process? I heard that one shouldn't spray cold water into them after a ride. Many people who tend to do that while car wash.

    Bruno
  • cdnp5cdnp5 Posts: 163
    Just wanted to say that I achived a record breaking one tank on the weekend. The weather was amazing and the winds were calm (tail winds on the way home). For the 643.6km trip (400 miles) I achived 6.6 L/100 or 35.58 US Miles/Gallon. I will say that this was all back road driving where the cruise was set only at 100kph (60mph) and the sunroof was open.
  • acuintegraacuintegra Posts: 12
    Need help again... went shopping for a Pro5. I found one in black and one in midnight blue, either which is fine with me. The only difference, the black one, although is a 2003 was built was before Jan 2003 and the midnight blue one was built after and also 2003 and comes w/ the shock sensor alarm says the dealer. Also a difference, the mid blue one cost $19,303 while the black one cost $18,001. Dealer told me that Mazda raised prices on the ones build AFTER Jan 2003 resulting in the higher invoice price. Furthermore, he tells me that the ones built AFTER 2003 comes with a subwoofer while the ones built BEFORE Jan 2003 does NOT.

    The way I figure it, even if we figure in the cost of the alarm ($176), how the heck is there such a $1,100+ price difference between 2 cars and also doesn't everyone's Pro5 2003 come with a subwoofer?
  • loolalaloolala Posts: 19
    I posted one message about helping my friend got a P5 on "Mazda Protege Owners: What did you pay?"

    loolala "Mazda Protege Owners: What did you pay?" Jun 23, 2003 3:41am!make=Mazda&model=Protege5&ed_makeindex=.ef11a96

    We live near Oakland, CA, and they have tons of P5 in stock. We went on a Sunday afternoon and didn't see too many people shopping for cars. Anyway, we pay $16,500 out the door with better equiped car than the two you found! Hope this helps and good luck!
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Only the pads are subject to the adjustment warranty. The rotors and calipers are 36mo/50k (48/50).
  • capitanocapitano Posts: 509
    Any P5 owners out there in the deep south? I'm looking at getting a P5 in the next few months, but I have read some comments about a weak AC system. I am supposed to move to Miami in 8 months and I don't to suffer from spontaneous human combustion due to inadequate AC.
  • acuintegraacuintegra Posts: 12
    The price the dealer is giving me for the P5 is $16,487 includ rebates but not tax. Opts are auto 4spd,leather, the sunroof pkg w/6cd, and the abs+side air, and sensor alarm. The roofrack unfort, is standard as he would say it.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    is adequate for Texas and tinted window will greatly help.

    Bruno
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    Ditto to what Bruno wrote. Window tinting makes all the difference. In Miami, I can't imagine not having it, no matter the vehicle.
  • icvciicvci Posts: 1,031
    I've got black and it was 90 here yesterday, no problems. Nice and chilly.
  • golfboygolfboy Posts: 35
    Anybody here having problems with swirl marks? My black P5 seems to be very susceptible to these. They are very apparent in direct sunlight. Any products out there that people have tried to try and hide these swirl marks in their paint?
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    My 2 cents: I've been able to remove swirl marks in black automotive paint with Meguiar's Swirl Remover.

    There may be other brands that work just as well... that others here can recommend. In addition to the feedback here, you may also want to see what they have to say in our
    Paint and Body Maintenance & Repair discussion. Good luck. ;-)

    Revka
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  • icvciicvci Posts: 1,031
    Email me teamk2@earthlink.com and I'll give you a link to a great detailing website.
  • wongpreswongpres Posts: 422
    The Mazda3 hatch began production today (albeit in euro-spec). Go to the Mazda3 forum to see the press release and pic. This also means that P5 production is over (the P5 factory is the one making the Mazda3 hatch, contrary to my earlier info).

    So for those who don't like the look of the Mazda3, you better get your P5 now.
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Posts: 1,583
    should be selling at very good prices, now that the 3 has been officially announced :-)

    grab your deals now!!!1!
  • golfboygolfboy Posts: 35
    Thanks Revka. I bought a bottle of Meguiar's Cleaner Wax as it says it removes swirl marks effectively. Meguiar's Gold Class polish also claims to do the job. I've yet to see the "Swirl Remover" marketed here in Canada. Will the cleaner wax do the job? Anyone else used this product before?

    I'm skeptical of these products as I've tried Mother's Scratch Remover and others like it and have had no luck with them. All they seem to do is attract dust as the spots on my car where I've applied the product seem to collect more dust than other areas.
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    To wongpres & others interested in the Mazda3 - I've posted a direct link to the Mazda3 5 door hatch press & photos release in our Mazda3 Hatch discussion, Post 107. We look forward to hearing your thoughts about the Mazda3 in that discussion. ;-)

    To golfboy - You're welcome. Here's an informative article from Edmunds about waxing/polishing from Edmunds that you may find interesting. Also, at the bottom of that page, look for a direct link to the Meguiar's website. You can send them an email to find out about the wax cleaner... and availability of the Swirl Remover in Canada.

    Good luck, and please keep us posted on your Protege5 experience.

    Revka
  • frank140frank140 Posts: 1
    I ordered a new Protege 5 in April with the understanding from the dealer that it wuld entail a 5-6 week delay. At the end of June, the dealer cannot (or will not) give me an ETA on delivery. Is this normal? The dealer is in CT; the port of entry is Newark. Is there a hidden problem?
  • capitanocapitano Posts: 509
    The P5 is on my list of cars to shop but I was surprised to learn that it will cost me more in insurance than either a Mazda6 or a Matrix XRS. From what the agent had on her screens, the 6 and matrix were rated as a 2 in safety meaning average while the P5 was a 3 meaning worse than average.

    I just checked the NHTSA crash test site and the protege sedan got 5 stars for the driver and a 4 for the passenger. The 6 and trix have 5 stars for both. I wonder what kind of car gets a 1 meaning better than average.

    Any owners finding that their insurance costs with the P5 are a little high? I was talking to USAA.
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    In 2002, the Protegé and P5 were re-classified by the insurance industry as "premium economy" cars. This means that they have a higher than average replacement cost. Blame all the Kia Rios and Hyundai Accents. My annual insurance premium on my P5 is ~$750. That is about $140 more than my Miata. Go figure. It is not a safety issue, it is simply a matter of the P5 costing more than the average car in its class.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    I'm about to get back my baby (yeahhh). The car has been immobilized for about two months on the boat. Any particular precaution should I take? I plan to put a injectors cleaner liquid in the fuel tank. Is it a good idea? Should I change oil right a way? Thank you for suggestions.

    Bruno
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    I would do exactly what you said. I'm not sure what kind of exposure (if any) to ocean salt water, your P5 might have experienced, but I would thoroughly wash down the exterior and underside to remove any residual salt hiding in cracks and crevices.

    I wouldn't drive it to hard either at first. Let it thoroughly warm up before you start to have too much fun. ;)
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    I'm in Connecticut and we have not seen any delays with P5's....If you email me the VIN # I can check the cars status.

    Rich
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    Thanks Terry for the excellent suggestion! She will take a good shower with shampoo.
  • wdrauchwdrauch Posts: 22
    I too am a little shocked at the insurance rate for my P5. I'm paying about $780 for 6 mos. in SE Michigan. My premium on my '01 Miata is about $660 (and I have it listed as a low mileage vehicle).
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    Have you had a chance to check out any of the articles in Edmunds' Insurance section? You may find some helpful tips on ways to lower your insurance there. Good luck.

    Revka
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  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,327
    It's also the type of driver that is assigned to a Pro/P5. While the average age of the driver is in the 40s, I see plenty of teenagers driving Proteges/P5s. Some drive very well and safely, others not so well (and the poor cars are dinged-up too). I think that's the reason the Protege/P5 insurance rates are higher than those for the Mazda6. Average driver's age is probably lower. The same applies to the Civic, Sentra, Corolla and Mirage/Lancer. I found insurance to be pretty much the same for this class of vehicle. Paradoxically, the next size up in each model line costs less to insure while they cost more to buy. I think the typical driver of these tend to be older and more conservative drivers. Oh well, the price of nimbleness and sportiness.
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