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Mazda Protege5

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  • cogs25cogs25 Posts: 39
    After perusing this board for over a year, I finally joined the fraternity Sat. when I got a RED 5-spd. Boy it's a fun car! I got several positive comments from my co-workers.

    Insurance-
    I didn't realize the average age for this car was in the 40's. I assumed it would be in the 20's. (I'm helping to raise the average.)

    DJL
  • capitanocapitano Posts: 509
    Like I said, USAA had higher rates because (as near as the agent could tell) of "worse than average" injury rates.

    Even with higher insurance, the P5 will be cheaper than the other cars I am looking at. It is discounted now, but that mazda3 looks inviting. Might have to wait for that.
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    Congratulations on your new P5.
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    ...did things that made sense. According to the 99-01 stats (latest available from IIHS) the mean score for all small cars in injury losses was 140 (100 being average for all cars, 0 being ideal). The Protege scored 138. That is slightly better that average for small cars, but worse than average for all cars. A sampling of competing cars shows that the Corolla, Focus, Sentra, and Neon all scored worse. The Civic scored better. You can check it out for yourself here:

    http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ictl/ictl_4dr.htm
  • protojasonprotojason Posts: 13
    Welp, finally got the first road trip out of the way.

    Went from S.A. Tx to Rocky Mtn nat'l park in Colorado, and through Carlsbad NM. Total mileage of 2,299 miles..about to turn over 4k miles on the car at the end of the week.

    The car swallowed all of our hiking gear with ease,(packs,bags,pads etc)..just folded the seats down flat...good to go.

    ** i didnt realise, but the entire lower seat cushions come completely out with ease,** that was useful.

    The long haul was comfortable...but the real fun came from the winding roads. Just like you guys said....she may not have the power, but she's wicked on the curves.
    Those winding roads going into and out of the CO national park were a hoot.

    My car felt a bit sluggish on some grades, but i chalked it up to the fact that my 'best friend' filled her up with 85octane instead of the recommended 87. I hope that's not too terrible of a thing.

    Fuel : In Colorado, 85 87 89 was the standard levels. In NM 86 88 91. So i went with 88 there.

    My best mpg was 36.34 mpg driving from amarillo, Tx to Colorado springs. This is also my "new car record."

    ROAD TRIP DAMAGES :

     1) Friend backs over camping sign post leaving green scratches on right rear quarter panel.

     2) Friend puts low octane into tank ?

     3) Friend has rock thrown up from car ahead and
         chips front windshield.

    thanks bud.

    Anyhow..was a great road trip. I think the most fun driving was the winding desert road leading up to carlsbad caverns in new mexico...was 2am...no traffic...dark...speed limit suggested at 30mph..we were doing 55/60 with gusto!
    bad bad bad...but memorable! And didnt come close to hitting that jack rabbit. :)

    Also slalomed some road construction cones on an barren highway road somewhere in north Texas at around 70mph. (i say slalom, but was just weaving in one, out the other...) still a first for me. (bad bad bad)

    PS. I'm not a really a 'car guy' though this purchase is rapidly pushing me that direction...what do you guys think about the feasibility of 'small upgrades' like a cold air intake and some sort of exhaust?
    What brands are reputable? Does an exhaust actually help or just change the pitch? I kinda like being quiet...but quiet and faster would be neat. :)
    Oh...and typical prices for easy upgrades or posting some sites you enthusiasts browse would be helpful.

    I saw the turbo kit mentioned earlier on flying miata/protoge...but a 3k upgrade is more than i really deem necessary right now.

    PPS.

    Do 'sport wagons' qualify for 'limo dark' tinting in the back like many SUV's? And how do you folks post pics on here?

    Sorry so long a post!

    Jason
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    I have seen the dyno curves comparing cars with and without exhaust and/or cold air intake. These curves are from the vendors, and have to be take with a grain of salt. There is an increase of few hp, not that spectacular. Changing in sound and cosmetic would be the first you'll notice with the new exhaust. Like it or not depends one your taste.

    Do not get the turbo right now, unless you want to void the warranty.

    Bruno
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    My car felt a bit sluggish on some grades, but i chalked it up to the fact that my 'best friend' filled her up with 85octane instead of the recommended 87. I hope that's not too terrible of a thing.

    No, because the car is fortunately equipped with anti-knock sensor. Notice that in the mountain, the octane requirement is generally lower (lower air pressure and temperature).

    Bruno
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    I think the most fun driving was the winding desert road leading up to carlsbad caverns in new mexico...was 2am...no traffic...dark...speed limit suggested at 30mph..we were doing 55/60 with gusto!

    I know this road and I was visiting the same cavern not long ago. On the way back from the Guada-Loupe mountain to Hwy I10 (Texas), there is a small desertic road with no trafic what so ever. I reach the max speed there (electronically limited). It read 111mph!

    Bruno
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    I double that the P5 can be even half qualified as a limousine. ;-) Please check out this website for windows tint regulations http://www.pcisys.net/~bpc/auto_law/tint/

    Bruno
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    Everything you need to know: click on "Town Hall Help" on the left side, then "Navigating Boards and Discussions"

    Bruno
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    Starting today....0% for 60 months in most regions on P5....
  • capitanocapitano Posts: 509
    Can that be combined with the $2250 cash?
  • cogs25cogs25 Posts: 39
    Unfortunately, NO. It's either 0% or $2250 CB. Speaking from very recent experience.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    I get my baby back today. Turning the key, she starts without hesitation despite 2 months and 7 days of sleep. I almost forget how tight she is. She drove me home nicely. We took the sunny autoroute. Still love her as the day one!

    Bruno
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    Have you seen any P5s/PROs in France since you arrived? I know the European PRO sedans have a diferent front bumper and lightts (like our 99-00 models if I'm not mistaken), but the P5, is it also different?

    Dinu
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    I saw just one Protege5 (but many Mazda 6). Here it's named 323. Hatch is the queen on the road. I'm not even sure if the sedan version is for sale. The bumper is different (the lower part is simply round, and does not include the air-effect), not as nice as the US. The head light looks similar. I say "looks" because here in europe spec requires an asymmetry in the light blocks, whereas in US they are mirror symmetry. The fog light is rectangular and not round. The back lights is different (red with an horizontal white strip). There is a chrome in the front nose (bearrk...). No sport model here. The biggest fuel engine is 1.6l, the 2.0l runs on diesel. 14" steel wheels are standard. US version looks nicer, definitively.
  • cogs25cogs25 Posts: 39
    I haven't seen this discussed before. Has anyone else noticed a problem this time of year with sun glaring off the instrument panel? It's not horrendous, but definitely irritating. I haven't had a car with this problem in many years.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    No more so than with any other car, in fact a bit less.

    If it bothers you too much, get a pair of polarized sunglasses. They should eliminate much of the glare off the IP bezel and off other cars' glass. Check them at the store. Sometimes, cheaper ones don't orient the direction of the polarizing material correctly. Find a spot that reflects glare (preferably the floor or something horizontal) and rotate the glasses clockwise while looking through each eyepiece. The reflections should be greatly reduced when the glasses are held as if you're wearing them and then increase as you spin them about to about 90 degrees and then drop again when the glasses are upside-down.
  • yodaroniyodaroni Posts: 23
    I am in the market for a compact size car, was looking at the Honda Civic when i wondered off to the next door Mazda dealer and was very impressed with the way the P5 looked for almost the same price...Any recommendations??? I know Hondas very well but never owned a Mazda...any comments?? I understand there is $2250 rebate going on...
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    Does anyone know if the P5's side air bags protect the head too? I can't find any info on them.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    As with any make, it depends on the model. The P5/Protege is Mazda's most reliable model. The MPV, 626 and Miata are also very reliable. The 6 is made in the same plant as the 626 was, so it should be reliable as well. The only one I'd be wary of is the Truck, which is a rebadged Ford Ranger. I'd also check the Tribute carefully as it's assembled in a Ford-run plant, though I think the Escape/Tribute has improved over the last year.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    Don't worry, Mazda P5 is as reliable as any Honda. It feels more solid than the Civic.

    Bruno (who uses to own a Honda)
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    In the Protegé(5), the side air bags are supposed to protect the upper torso and head. It is not a full torso air bag nor a head curtain style. It is sort of in-between. BTW: this is similar to the type used in the Tribute/Escape. In those vehicles the side air bag significantly improved test scores on side impacts.
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    From what I can tell, the air bag deploys from the top of the seat back so I assume it will protect your head.
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    Just about the only things I can think of that the Civic has against the P5, is resale value and gas mileage. If those two things aren't high on your list of wants, I'd go for the P5 (my opinion is biased of course). ;)
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    Thanks boggse and iamz. That was exactly what I was looking for. I knew they weren't curtains, but I did want to know if they were like the Escape's.

    The one I'm looking at has the ABS/SAB package and I'd rather have it over a 6 without them (very hard to find this year). Even though the monthly payment will be almost identical.
  • icvciicvci Posts: 1,031
    Just went on the first road trip longer than 15 miles with my P5. 470 miles on one tank of gas. I have no idea what the exact mileage was as I have no way of knowing how much gas was left in my tank when I filled up. But, I put in 13.467 gallons and based on that I got 34.9 mpg. Not as good as my Civic hatch but, the Civic didn't make the twisty roads to Elk Rapids, MI as fun as the P5.

    BTW temps were in the 90's and I didn't have any problems with A/C temps.
  • isseyvooisseyvoo Posts: 120
    Am I correct in thinking that Canada requires daytime running lights? If so, I would assume a U.S. spec car could be retrofitted with whatever the required parts are at relatively modest cost. Has anyone done this?
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    Wouldn't it be easier AND cheaper to just turn your lights on? ;)
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    Here is someone who did it to a Miata. You may be able to adapt this to the Protegé. Let us know if you do.

    http://www.miata.net/garage/drl/DRLs.htm
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