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  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    Just an observation, but you may want to consider an MPV with 3 young children. I know it costs more money and it is less economical, but it would definitely be less of a sardine can when the whole family is on board. With incentives, the Edmunds TMV for the MPV LX-SV is $19,188.
  • Already have the required family minivan - '96 Windstar. Just looking to replace my daily driver ('91 Capri), but want something fuel-efficient, versatile, and fun. I hate lugging the van around town and short trips with it's 17 MPG city. It's gotta be a hatch too. Here's my short list:

    P5
    Mazda3
    Mazda6 Hatch (spring 2004)
    2004 Focus ZX5

    We will probably head down to the dealer this weekend to see if we can squeeze the entire brood in the P5 :0
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    In that case, the Protege5 would be at the top of my list. Fun is the key word.
  • I'm shopping for a Protege5. I want the ABS/Side Airbag package, but not the moonroof/CD changer package. I just had a dealer tell me that it was impossible to get ABS without the moonroof. I said, "My research tells me that they are separate options. Do you mean that you just don't have any in stock?" He replied, "No. Your research is wrong. If you get ABS, you have to get the moonroof."

    Before I walk away from this guy, can people here confirm that I'm right and he's wrong? Thanks.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    Yes you are right. At least one of the members here own an P5 with ABS and no moonroof.

    When the 2002 P5 is launched, the ABS option requires the moonroof (but not vice versa). However Mazda has decided to make these two options independent later (since 2003?). If you need a proof, you can download both 2002 and 2003 brochures on http://www.mazdausa.com, and you will notice the moonroof requirement disappears from 2003.

    Bruno
  • There's a blue one with ABS, no moonroof, and no already-installed roof rack at the dealer near me (Heritage Mazda near Baltimore, MD). I know for sure because I drove it, because that's the combo I would want. I 'm not sure, but I don't think it was the only one they had, either.

    Where are you? I don't think your dealer is looking very hard for you.
  • My wife and I test drove a Protege5 with the roof rack, and moonroof/CD changer, without ABS/Side airbags. We wanted the ABS so we did not buy that particular car. Contact MazdaUSA. You can reach them from their website, explain what you want. They located 6 cars with the equipment we wanted that were unallocated to dealers at the port. The only catch is getting a dealer to get the car for you, and making a deal on the price.
  • The saleman is all wet. I too wanted ABS, but preferred NO Moonroof. Got what I wanted in RED.
    8 years ago a saleman told me I couldn't get ABS in an Escort GT, when I knew better.

    I always find it odd that we, as the customer, know more about the options in a car than the person whose JOB it is to know.
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    I have a 2003 P5 with ABS/SAB but no moonroof/6CD.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    they did make a few with that combo in 2003....but they are not common. I ran a locate on the mid cycle Pro5 with the ABS/SAB and no moonroof....I searched all of new england, ny, nj, PA out to state college and northern maryland, virginia and there were a total of 12 units out there. zero in the state of connecticut.
  • I just discovered the inventory list on MazdaUSA.com, and I see that audia8q is right. They exist, but they're not common. I live in Boston, and I only found a few with that configuration within 50 miles (I know a good dealer can order the car from a more distant location -- I'm just giving an example).
  • My 1-year-old, 13k-mile 2002 P5 is much noisier on the freeway now than it was in its first few hundred miles. I know there's a TSB (technical service bulletin) out for noise caused by a poor windshield seal and wonder if anyone has had his/hers repaired, and how much that repair helped quiet the interior.
  • My P5 ran over something it shouldn't have which caused the right rear tire to exhale rather quickly through its new 4-inch gash. I was 200 miles from home and the day was Sunday. All local tireshops were closed. So I had to drive all the way home with the dinky spare mounted.

    I don't know who's idea it was for cars to carry a spare that warns not to exceed 50MPH. Someone with a sense of humor, probably.

    Unfortunately for me, Los Angeles sits between home and where I was and Angelenos are not the most patient of drivers. Now, I normally cruise through that area at an average 77 MPH (when traffic is flowing) in the second or third lane from center. And no more than a few seconds pass before others do likewise. So, creeping along at 55 (I allowed a conservative 10% margin) in the slow lane was new for me.

    Know what was most surprising? The number of drivers who don't use the onramp to accelerate up to speed for safe merging but, instead, hit the freeway at 40 or 45, forcing whoever happens to be in the right lane to brake. THEN, they start to accelerate. I guess I wasn't surprised by the displeasure of those temporarily stuck behind me, nor by the ones cutting in front of me with the absolute minimum of clearance possible. ("One can halve space between two objects an infinite number of times.")

    Still, it was almost fun watching cars zip past as if I were on a bicycle, noticing the plants grow along the freeway, observing the seasons change, and being able to leave cruise control on with no fear of catching up with the car in front. Of course, the trip home did last an hour longer than ususal.

    My typical gas mileage is 26.5 for mixed driving and 28 to 33 for freeway trips. So 37 was pretty impressive. Though I half expected this leisurely drive to be my last.

    By the way, Dunlop has discontinued our SP5000 and finding one so all my tires would remain consistent was challenging and expensive ($109 at TireRack.com). I could have bought two Kumhos or something, but want all four to match until I'm ready to replace the whole bunch. Well, three of the four, anyway, since this new one will probably outlast the others.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,327
    Glad you made it OK. I hardly saw that speed when I was in LA (only about a week last summer), but I guess I must've hit the more heavily-trafficked routes.

    On a rather sad note, my wife's P5 has sustained a rather bad crack to its windshield (we have many lovely large rocks on our freeways...I don't think they ever clean them...the roads or the rocks), so what's to watch out for regarding windshield replacement? Also, please share what your approximate costs were.
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    Your insurance should cover 100% of it but if not I think average costs are around $600 to $800. Glass coverage is only about $6 to $20 bucks a year. It's worth having.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,327
    Turns out we don't have extra coverage for windshield replacement. However, my wife got a quote for $350 from a glass installer our dealership service department usually gets to do glasswork. She's taking it to their facility for the work, so it'll be done in a relatively controlled environment.
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    It is not available as separate coverage in North Carolina, but is instead included in the Comprehensive coverage.
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  • ublinkublink Posts: 5
    I had to replace my windshield with less than 2000 miles - I changed my windshiled before I changed my oil. I carry $500 deductable so it didn't help. I paid $250 and they came and did it in the parking lot at work. Call around, I had gotten an online quote of $300+. Rotten deal, but things could be worse.
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    I saw on another board you're back.

    Here's the info: Yes - 1.6L and 2.0L use the same oil filter. Part# B6Y1.

    Dinu
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    Where is this lake?

    Dinu
  • kizehkizeh Posts: 15
    Northern Georgia, by a town called (surprise!) Blue Ridge. They were working on the dam, and apparently drained the lake. It was pretty funny seeing all the elaborate big pontoon piers just sitting in the sand with hundreds of yards to the nearest puddle of water.

    Beyond that, getting to drive the twisty mountain roads of northern GA was a total hoot. Two of my friends won't ride with me anymore, the third one is crying for more! The little car even did pretty well on forest service roads, though I did stop short of fording a creek
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    Nothing like hopping in a fun to drive car for a ride.

    You should have a travel show on TV - "Protege Cruises".

    Dinu
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    thanks for the oil filter info.

    PS: Good to be back here!
  • jimxojimxo Posts: 423
    My dealer tells me a redesign 2004 model will have 150 or a 170 hp engines available?

    Anyone have info on this new car or pics?
  • Thanks very much to Bruno, Ted, Dinu, and others for answering my questions and helping me with my decision. Tonight I brought home my new Pro5, and I'm very pleased. I'm going to miss my Audi A4, but the deal was good, and I've reduced my car payment from $470 to $165 per month as I head back to school.

    FYI: 2003 Midnight Blue Pro5
    AT, ABS, bumper guard, wheel locks
    $3500 under invoice with rebate ($14085 + TTL)
    $15100 OTD before trade-in.

    I know I'm gonna like this car! Now I just have to get used to left being right and up being down as I go from the German to the Japanese. :)

    Take care,
    Steven
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    Take it easy for 600-1000 miles then go have a little fun with it :)

    Dinu
  • pappy55pappy55 Posts: 41
    I finally ended my comparison and waiting insanity and pulled the trigger on a new 2003.5 Laser Blue Mica Pro5. The car met most items on my want list and the low price took me over the edge-

    MT
    wheel locks
    cassette
    cargo net
    floor mats
    $13,400 + TTL

    others considered:
    Mazda3-not keen on first year models and would probably be a while until incentives.
    Mazda6 Hatch-U.S. build quality?? and couldn't wait til April. Too much car and $$ for a daily commuter.
    FocusZX5-just felt 'cheaper' than the P5
    Elantra GT Hatch-styling??

    My 51 mile update-
    The Pro5 ROCKS. Handles like a dream. Brakes are fantastic. Pleasant engine sound and taught suspension give a great feeling. Stereo adequate but nothing to write home about. Able to squeeze 1 infant seat, one toddler seat and 1 7-year old in the rear seat. Decent cargo space to boot. Who needs a freakin SUV? This car is FUN FUN FUN. Can't wait until the break-in period is over.

    Wish list-
    Head unit is nice, but wish it played MP3s
    Could use more power OR better MPG, but not NEITHER. Time will tell.
    Tires-$$$, few choices. nuff said

    Now I need to figure out how to keep my wife's hands off it.

    Thanks for all the advice. The Edmunds forums were a big help.
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