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Mazda Protege5



  • Just put a pic in the Photo Gallery (thanks for the suggestion)....

    Over the last few days did 410.4 miles on 10.841 gallons (and I'm not even cheating on the numbers)...unless my calculator is broken that's 37.85 mpg.

    And it's STILL the slickest-looking thing on the road!
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    I think it's the best-looking thing on the road these days too.

    My wife used to think she could tolerate the Matrix's looks (good thing the IP turned her off as well). She parked her P5 next to a Matrix at work one day and thought her P5 was much better looking. I guess the Matrix got Bangled up. ;)
  • icvciicvci Posts: 1,031
    I've been looking at some production photos of the Mazda3 over the last couple of days. It's looks really nice and I LOVE the interior. They really are two completely different looks IMO. I think the 3 is going to sell like hot cakes. If it has the handling of the P5 with the interior I'm looking at, it is a sure thing. There isn't a car in it's class that will compete.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    I'd be happy. I'm hooked on plugging my iPod directly into my car stereo. Much better sound than using an FM transmitter and less bulky than using a cassette adapter.
  • meinradmeinrad Posts: 820
    I've written 2 letters to Mazda about aux inputs. All it has gotten me so far is a few free movie rentals and a zoom zoom sticker.

    I just can't understand why it's not standard in all cars. It's so cheap it's silly. Not all of us want to change out the head unit to get what we want.

    My wife will probably be buying an Element in the fall and it has an aux input, yay!
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    My guess why they don't put the aux port is the lack of demand. The past two posts are the first time I have heard anyone asking for a aux port on the Pro5... I understand why it is a desirable feature for you and totally agree that it's a nice feature if you use it.

    if you figure in engineering, part and install costs and then add that to lets say 300,000 proteges a year it works out to millions of dollars for a feature than maybe 5% of the buyers would use.. OTOH I think it should be available as an extra cost option for those who want the feature.
  • subyaudidudesubyaudidude Posts: 136
    "if you figure in engineering, part and install costs and then add that to lets say 300,000 proteges a year it works out to millions of dollars for a feature than maybe 5% of the buyers would use.. OTOH I think it should be available as an extra cost option for those who want the feature."

    Let's say that it costs Mazda $10/car to add the aux input. I doubt anyone would raise an eyebrow at a $10 MSRP increase.
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    A $10 increase for AUX ports most buyers will not use could also translate into an extra $10/car increase for other options you or I might not find useful. Teh AUX port is nice to have and I would welcome one since I have a CD changer, but otherwise?

  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    but I think I've mentioned it on the sedan and modifications forums here and I think on the 6 "what people really buy" (or something like that) discussion.

    With the profileration of new audio sources (portable MP3, minidisc, XM & Sirius), it'd be silly for Mazda to ignore them. Some of us take our "boom boom" as seriously as our "zoom zoom" y'know. Remember that most automakers scoffed at built-in cupholders when they were first introduced. Now we have cupholders everywhere (and the Pro still gets dinged for lacking them for rear passengers). People actually base their purchase on little details like that. If Mazda truly believes "it's the little details", then they wouldn't ignore this.
  • meinradmeinrad Posts: 820
    someone doesn't ask for it, doesn't mean they don't want it.

    My guess is the actual amount of people who would love to have the input would be pretty big.

    These boards alone show you how many people have put in aftermarket head units to get what they want. More than a few might not have done so if they had a simple little plug on the dash.

    Engineering, parts, and install would be minimal. Even if they would continue to use this stupid modular radio, all that is needed is a little plug and a wire. Sell it from the parts department for $20 and be done with it.

    But the best thing would be for all car manufacturers to quit designing these radio systems and just design a hole for a standard radio and let us pick what we want. Offer something standard in the car, and make it easy for people who want more to add it. Best of both worlds.

    ......and I like the cupholder analogy
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    A car is dead w/o cupholders these days, even the "luxo" or "performance" brands.

    I chose my aftermarket unit for the following: front AUX input (rears need not apply), rotary encoder, minimally-distracting display. What I got isn't the best (wanted bigger buttons and dials, dedicated clock display, ability to play MP3-encoded CD-Rs), but delivered most of what I wanted at a decent price (I wasn't about to spend $500-700 on some makes' top end units that included a front AUX jack). Thus, I was limited to Aiwa and JVC.

    Seriously, I am in love with my iPod and won't consider a car that doesn't either come stock with an AUX input or allow me to easily put in an aftermarket unit with one. The FM transmitters are junk, IMO, so don't go there. I could burn CD-Rs of my collection, but I've got over 5GB of MP3s (all legal, BTW), so they'd take up a bit of space. An MP3-capable head unit might work, but not all software burns MP3-encoded discs that work with all players. Plus, new formats come out all the time as they improve compression schemes (like AAC and whatever format that Microsoft is trying to push to replace MP3).

    I still remember when cars didn't even have tuners in them. Now the "baseline" is a 4-speaker system with a tuner/CD-player, unless you've got a real "stripper", which still include at least a tuner.

    Oh well, enough said here. I've gotta send a bunch of requests to Mazda NA to drive this point home.
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    I am currently in the process of re-ripping all of my CDs into the new AAC format. So far, I have saved myself about a gig of storage due to the better compression AAC offers. I expect to double that when I am done. The down side is, all of the aftermarket head units decode MP3 and/or WMA, but not AAC. I must make do with an AUX input for now. Still trying to figure out which one to buy for the P5 and the Miata.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    I'm probably going to re-rip all my CDs into AAC format. Geez, I'm not looking forward to that amount of work, but I keep hearing it's so much better than MP3 (although I use VBR with 128 set as the minimum). I'll give it a test run with a couple of favorite tunes first to see if I can hear the difference myself.

    And the iPod is no longer the only deck-of-cards size MP3 jukebox out there. These things are only getting more popular and should be considered by auto manufacturers to differentiate their product. Will they be leaders or will they hang onto someone else's coattails?
  • russ32russ32 Posts: 1
    Seeing as the rear license plate is only secured at the top, it rattles when you close the hatch. Any ideas to fix this?
  • tetonmantetonman Posts: 73
    I've used a fairly heavy plate frame and then used two way tape to hold it down. No problems so far and it made it through a Chicago winter.

    I remember seeing this topic earlier, around October or November of last year??? You might want to search and see what you find.

    Good luck.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    sirius is on the way....Ford signed a deal with them to a couple months ago to supply all of the ford family of companies..mazda included.

    the bad part is I don't have any word as to availability yet. But I suspect the 2004 model year will offer at least some models with sat radio.

    This is one of those features that I am hearing from some customers...not huge demand yet, but certainly enough interest to offer the feature.

  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    Stick-on rubber feet might work.

    I actually use the plastic advertising plate from the dealership (the one they give you for the front with your temp tag) under the license plate. It seems to dampen the rattle fairly well.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    Thanks for the info. I'm glad they're responding. Perhaps it makes more sense to put pressure on Ford then as Mazda doesn't depend as much on US sales as Ford does.
  • subyaudidudesubyaudidude Posts: 136
    Will there be a retro-fit for older models that's worthwhile, or will going the aftermarket route still be cheaper?
  • hurler4hurler4 Posts: 104
    I have heard a lot of people complain about the fairly thin paint job of the P5, causing chips to occur more often than with other cars. Does anyone know if the anti-chipping tape that is available on the Toyota Corolla can be used on the P5? Has anyone tried this?
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