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Mazda Protege5

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  • erics6erics6 Posts: 684
    Anyone interested in comparing notes on car care?
    2002 P5 w/64k.
    1. How often do you wash and how often do you wax your car?
    Weekly
    2. How often do you clean / detail the interior including your CD unit?
    Weekly. Don't clean the CD unit.
    3. How often do you check the following: a) oil; b) other fluids; c) tire pressure?
    Not often enough. Probably every couple of weeks.
    4. Do you do anything special regarding winter care? For example, do you use a) winter tires; b) gasline antifreeze, or c) block heater?
    No
    5. How long do the following typically last:
    a) wipers;
    Twice a year.
    b) battery;
    Original replaced last month at around 60k.
    c) thermostat;
    Original I think. Might have been replaced at 60k service.
    d) tires;
    Originals replaced last summer at around 50k. Don't ask me why the Dunlops lasted so long.
    e) brake pads;
    Originals are still good. Will need to replace them probably within the next 10k or so.
    f) brake rotors?
    Orignals, but fronts will probably need to be replaced when the pads are done. The fronts have already been resurfaced once.

    Conclusion. A great car. Very reliable. Would recommend the P5 to anyone.
  • 2002.5 P5 with 65K miles. it's my daily-driver for a 90+ mile round trip daily commute.

    1. How often do you wash and how often do you wax your car?

    once a month, if that. basically, whenever I can't see out of the side windows due to dust buildup, I'll wash the car.

    2. How often do you clean / detail the interior including your CD unit?

    see reply to #1.

    3. How often do you check the following: a) oil; b) other fluids; c) tire pressure?

    oil: every other fillup
    fluids: hardly
    tire pressure: constantly

    4. Do you do anything special regarding winter care? For example, do you use a) winter tires; b) gasline antifreeze, or c) block heater?

    what's winter? (I live in Southern California)

    5. How long do the following typically last: a) wipers; b) battery; c) thermostat; d) tires; e) brake pads; f) brake rotors?

    wipers: replaced all ONCE
    battery: still on original
    thermostat: still on original
    tires: swapped Dunlops with Bridgestone RE750's at @18K miles
    brake pads: still on original
    brake rotors: still on original

    with the exception of my front door locks 'sticking' intermittently, the car has been trouble-free and in all honesty, drives better than before.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    Interesting comments. Here are some for my 2002 P5 (65K km / 40K miles)

    1. How often do you wash and how often do you wax your car?
    - Monthly for the wash; every second month for the waxing.

    2. How often do you clean / detail the interior including your CD unit?
    - Monthly. Don't clean the CD unit. My New Year's Resolution is to figure out how to clean the CD unit.

    3. How often do you check the following:
    a) oil: Hardly ever
    b) other fluids: Hardly ever
    c) tire pressure: Biweekly.
    My New Year's Resolution is to do all these biweekly.

    4. Do you do anything special regarding winter care? For example, do you use
    a) winter tires: yes
    b) gasline antifreeze: yes
    c) block heater: no

    5. How long do the following typically last:
    a) wipers: 18 to 24 months
    b) battery: using original with 40K miles (65K km); plan to replace at 50K miles
    c) thermostat: using original with 40K miles (65K km)
    d) tires: replaced with BF Goodrich at 28K miles (45K km)
    e) brake pads: using original with 40K miles (65K km); hope to last for another 10K miles or more
    f) brake rotors: using original with 40K miles (65K km); hope to last for another 10K miles or more

    So far the P5 has been a reliable fun-to-drive wonder.
  • erics6erics6 Posts: 684
    Forgot the wax part. Probably every 3 months or so.
  • ripcordripcord Posts: 23
    I installed Silverstars on my 02 P5 and the first one blew out in 3 months. I had the receipt and took it back to take advantage of the one year warranty at Canadian Tire. I have my fingers crossed but after looking at a few posts, I am concerned.
  • ripcordripcord Posts: 23
    Thanks, I opted for the Nordic Icetrac's. On both my P5's, I have Icetrac's on the front, and Firestone Winterfires on the back. What a difference having the ice tires on the car. No ABS coming on at each stop sign, I love them for handling too. Now all we need is some snow in good ole Bruce County (where the snow blows horizontal)
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    I've gone through quite a few low beam bulbs on my P5 in it's 94k miles. I'm on my 3rd D-side and my 2nd P-side if I remember correctly, it might actually be more.

    No moisture in housing. Still on the OE high beams. No DRL's here either.
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    My P5 is nearing 100k and just about paid off. I'm due for a timing belt change, my front struts are leaking and the back seems a bit saggy. (We're larger then average folks and frequently have the car loaded right up for camping and traveling.) The brakes are sure to be due again soon as it's been nearly 50k since I did the backs, and 30k since I did the fronts.

    My issue is that I don't know if I want to dump a big chunk of money into her if I'm not going to keep it. Our family has outgrown it and we think we'd like to move up to something a bit bigger like the new RAV4, upcoming Mazda CX-7, Mazda6 Wagon, or perhaps a midsize sedan or wagon.

    Thoughts? I did the brakes myself and it cost less then $100 per end with new rotors. How much have folks paid for the Tbelt change?? What am I looking at for struts all around?
  • Yes, definitely talking about headlight bulbs - not indicators. Since I was a kid my dad would always tell me to never touch the glass of a halogen bulb, so I'm very careful about that. Also, I just use the cheapest bulbs Canadian Tire can offer - nothing fancy. Considering how many other people have complained about this issue I would say that the Protege5 has a clear weakness in this area.
  • 2002 Protege5 - 92,000 kms

    1. How often do you wash and how often do you wax your car?
    Wash once every two weeks or so (DIY drive-in). Wax a couple of times a year - spring and fall

    2. How often do you clean / detail the interior including your CD unit?
    Once a year.

    3. How often do you check the following: a) oil; b) other fluids; c) tire pressure?
    Oil - Once in a while, especially before going on a longer road trip.

    Other fluids - same

    Tire pressure - almost every day - I'm religious about my tires!

    4. Do you do anything special regarding winter care? For example, do you use a) winter tires; b) gasline antifreeze, or c) block heater?
    No on all counts. Have a block heater, but currently don't need it since I live in high-rise with underground parking.

    5. How long do the following typically last: a) wipers; b) battery; c) thermostat; d) tires; e) brake pads; f) brake rotors?
    Wipers - 1-2 years. Typically change driver's side more often.
    Battery - still on original - no problems.
    Thermostat - same
    Tires - Just changed to new all-seasons. Original Dunlops lasted 90,000 kms.
    Brake pads and rotors - Original front pads and rotors lasted almost 90,000 kms. Changed two months ago. Rears were changed at around 20,000 kms after rear calipers got stuck. Bloody Ford parts! Only serious issue with the Protege5.

    Resolution? Wash inside of car more often and change trans oil at least once a year. This car will last forever - I'll never sell it!
  • erics6erics6 Posts: 684
    Ummm... just paid it off and you want another car payment?

    Don't think you're going to find many p5 owners who have changed the timing belt or struts yet. Mazda parts are kind of expensive. Check with your independent mechanic for a ballpark (parts and labor).

    Ask Terry on Edmunds Real World Trade in Values what your car is worth. Maybe $7.5 - $8k private sale.

    Personally, I'd put some $$ into maintenance, and keep the car for at least another 50k or so. P5 should last for another 100k or so, with no big issues. We are talking about a VERY reliable car here. I've got two teenage daughters, and the four of us do fine. Bought a Yakima Loadwarrior for the rack. Plastic bins on top. Works great on trips.
  • isseyvooisseyvoo Posts: 120
    I believe the timing belt change ran about $600 and change for us as part of a so-called 60K mi. service that totaled over $1,000.
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    The P5 has been great, but my boy's feet are firmly planted in my seatback and he'll be in a car seat for a few more years. More importantly, we are at a point with the grandparents that we HAVE to have room in the back for 2 adults PLUS the kid seat on a very regular basis. That just doesn't work in the P5.

    If neither of those factors existed, we'd be HAPPY to spend whatever and keep it for a while longer, but I just can't see dumping a grand or more into it when it really doesn't fit our needs anymore.
  • erics6erics6 Posts: 684
    Non-dealer prices will be a LOT less. Struts will be expensive though. Other maintenance is pretty straight-forward.

    Trade will be low, with the things you've mentioned. Lot's of reconditioning for the dealer. Better to sell it private party.

    Might want to take a look at the new Mazda 5. Seen the base stick going for about $15k.
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    Thanks for the basic maintenance numbers. I'll hit up my repair guy for more spcifics. I don't want to clutter this topic with "What next car for me" posts.

    :)
  • with all the money you have invested in the car, you should spend the xtra $$ and have it maintained correctly at a dealer.....dont take chances with outside independents
  • erics6erics6 Posts: 684
    Interesting perspective. Never heard that one before.

    I like things DONE RIGHT, the 1st time. My trusted independent hasn't screwed up like the dealer has, + they only do what NEEDS DOING and don't add profit fluff. I have NEVER had a good experience at a dealer, except oil changes. I don't like to waste $$$, so I'll stick with my trusted independent.
  • thats nice that you have a trusted independent. No need for the sarcasm though. It is my experience though, that certain independents occasionally are unable to do certain jobs corrrectly, and the owner pays twice after bringing the car to me to have it fixed right. Dealerhip experiences can be frustrating, but not all dealers are out to steal your money. I personally have a large base of loyal customers that come ONLY to me to have their cars fixed. Sorry that you cant find the same at your local. When Joe Public brings his protege5 in for a routine oil change at independent, did that ind notice that the A/C light didnt stay on all the time on fan speed 2 and replace the control head under warranty even after the car was out of the 3-4/50 warranty? Just an example of what I do for my customers. On behalf of Mazda North America, I apologize that you have NEVER had a good experience at the dealership.
  • Sorry to say this, Eric, but you're one in a million. In my experience, most dealerships are run like ruthless businesses. They have no interest in doing warranty repairs - certainly not AFTER the warranty has expired! If you leave your car with them for five minutes you can rest assured that you will end up with a nice long (and expensive!) laundry list of items that they recommend you repair. Also, do not expect them to get the job done right.

    I paid more than $300 to have my rear brakes replaced after less than a year. The brakes had overheated after hanging because of buildup of dirt. Not covered by warranty. This is a well known Protege5 weakness. When I had my independent look at it, he pointed out to me that the dealership had not lubricated the sliding pins. Most likely I would have had to go back there the year after to have my brakes replaced again. I guess this is how they retain their customers - get things to break so that they will keep coming back again and again and again...!

    Eric, I'm sure you are an exception, but to me there is an inherent conflict of interest in letting a dealership take care of maintenance. They will lose money by pointing out needed warranty repairs (Mazda pays them less than what they can charge a customer), so many of them wait until the warranty has expired. Some have understood that customer retention can not be built this way, but I am not making the gamble that I might have found such a dealer. Instead I take it to my trusted indie who charges less and has never recommended unnedded repairs.
  • not sure whom you are addressing, but I think it was my post and I am not eric. My name is Dan and I am a mazda tech of 18+ years. As far as dealer that would not warranty a known brake failure and blame it on "dirt buildup" is a shame. My own personal protege5 that I recently purchased with over 200k miles had the same issue you are referring to with the rear brakes. When I looked at the warranty history in my computer, mazda had taken care of the problem while the car had OVER 100k on it. I am not saying it is typical, but one shouldnt be so closeminded about dealerships. My goal is never to sell something that is not needed, but to repair correctly what is needed. Not expecting the dealer to get the job done right is a little harsh, and the human element is present at ALL places of business.
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