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Mazda Protege5

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  • Steve,

    The VIN number is assigned to the car when it is at sea. I am in Burlington and believe that you and I are waiting for the same train to come in. I phoned on Monday (Mazda Canada) and was told that the cars left Vancouver on Aug 18th and could be here today (Friday) in T.O. My dealer has no clue, but Mazda can give you a better idea, but you have to quote a VIN#.
    I am waiting on a Silver 5sp w/moon

    Dave
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Here's my take on rust protection. They spray a film of who-knows-what onto your car. Fine. But what about when you get a chip in your paint? I would find it incredibly hard to believe that the "rust protection" spray would be able to prevent rust from occuring where the chip is. IMHO, rust protection is just another dealer grab at your cash.

    Just my 2 cents for today. :)

    Regards,
    Pro_fan
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    The sedan, and I suspect the P5, already has an undercoating sprayed onto the underbody and the lower parts of the side panels. This is why the paint looks like "orange peel" on the lower edges of the metal side panels (i.e. doors).

    This is to help protect the sheetmetal when the paint gets chipped.
  • I've been trying to get through to Mazda customer service for a couple of days now with no success. I've spent up to 20 minutes on Hold but evenually had to give up and do other things (I'm also very sick of the zoom zoom song hold music too now)

    I've been told by one dealer that yellow doesn't even exist it is a "myth" according to him.
    Another told me that the yellow ones are on "restriction" because Mazda ran out of yellow paint, but that they have had one in the past.
    We drove a silver one a week ago and it really was fun to drive but the yellow color would seal the deal for us.

    -Trevor
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    It's a myth? lol...that's a good one. How much sense does it make to advertise a myth?

    The yellow P5s are a limited production due to the complexity of the yellow paint process but they are definitely out there. I think there are 1 or 2 on this board. Keep looking!
  • yeah, I got a kick out of it when he said it too. At first it was a great test driving experience and the salesman seemed pretty decent and then came the "yellow doesn't exist" answer and when I asked about side airbags I was told those weren't available either. I decided not to bother showing him where it listed them as options in the brochure, which also had the yellow one all over it!

    I may try seeing if one of the buying services can locate one at a decent price for me. We originally wanted to see one in person before ordering the yellow but we may just go for it.

    On a funny side note we first noticed the P5 while at the local Chevy/Mazda dealer to test drive a Camaro of all things. So we definatly weren't in the market for a 'wagon'. However I really loved the way that it handled. I stopped by the chat here a couple weeks ago and was told "test drive it, you'll like it" and they were right.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Not a myth. I was in a showroom at a dealership about a month ago. Sitting right in the middle of the floor was a yellow P5. My advice: Do NOT go back to the dealer who told you it was a myth. What kind of dealer would say that??
    Anybody know how hard it is to keep the yellow clean? I wonder if it's as hard to keep clean as my black mica?! :(
  • krotinekrotine Posts: 93
    Yes that was probably me. There is another red one that I know of... it's in Aspinwall / Fox Chapel / Waterworks area.

    Are you going to visit MAPP2?

    Jason
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    It's not at all hard to keep the my yellow P5 clean. Dust is yellow mostly, isn't it? Screw the dealer who said it's a myth.

    Bruno
  • meinradmeinrad Posts: 820
    I don't think so, don't have a timetable yet on when I'm purchasing my car, (then assuming I can find the one I want when I'm ready.) Sounds like fun though. Can't wait till it's time to buy! If that time comes sooner than later, I'd probably take a drive down that way.....
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Well I don't know what kind of dust you have, but the crap that falls on my car is brown! Leaves it looking pretty ugly...But when we do have yellow "dust," that is pollen, most likely from trees. That stuff gets everywhere! Luckily I got my car after they had finished pollinating, but next year is gonna suck. I'm gonna have to wash nightly! Not looking forward to that.

    Mike
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    The 5sp gear box seems to have the second gear not as fast as other gears. Anyone else share the same feeling, or do I need to work out more on my bisepts?

    Bost the engine for about 20+hp, couple it with a 6sp gear box and shorter lever, and I'll have my dream car.

    Bruno
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    They are out there but there are very few. Mine has auto, ABS, side air bags, and floor mats as options. You probably will not find one with the ABS/side air bag option though. Very few P5's are built with ABS/side air bags (and NO, I will not part with mine).

    Modern Mazda in Hutchinson MN has a Yellow P5 with an automatic, but no ABS/side air bag. You could work a trade with a dealer in your area.

    KEEPING YELLOW CLEAN; The Yellow seems to hide dust fairly well. On the other hand the bugs seem to be drawn to the color and really show up splattered across the front end. I wash the front facia just about every other day. >:(
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    Terry,

    with the handling quality of the P5, you're probably able to slalom the car through incoming bugs. LOL.

    Bruno
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Bruno, what do you mean "The 5sp gear box seems to have the second gear not as fast as other gears"? Do you mean the actual shifting of the gear? Or do you mean 2nd gear being slower in terms of acceleration? I'm assuming the former because you mention your biceps needing a workout.

    For me, I find 2nd gear easy to shift into. In terms of acceleration, under 3000 rpm it is fairly slow to accelerate, but after 3k rpm it's zoom zoom.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    Yes Mike, I mean the 2th is a little hard to shift into. I can hardly notice it on every day driving, but when a fast shifting is required, I wish it could be few fraction of second faster.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Actually, now that I think about it, 2nd gear is kinda tough to get into when I'm really trying to push it. It almost feels like it gets stuck (but it's not actually getting stuck) or something. Anybody else?
  • Speakers: I was wondering, does anyone know if there is enough depth in the front doors for a speaker that is 2 7/8" deep? I'm considering Pioneer TS-A6865s (6x8) in the front doors. Crutchfield's web site says they'll fit, but I was wondering if anyone else had tried. How much luck has anybody had with improving sound quality and strength with just a speaker replacement so far? I've never installed an amp, which is somewhat intimidating, so a simple speaker replacement might be good enough.

    Amps: If anybody has removed the factory head unit, can you tell me if there are preamp outputs for an amplifier? I really doubt there will be, but I might as well not assume so. I like the looks and features of the factory head unit, so I want to go out of my way to keep it. What kinda luck has anyone had with amp installations in the P5?

    Drive safe!
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    "....slalom the car through incoming bugs."

    Not a bad idea Bruno. I have not tried that yet. ;)

    MANUAL SHIFTING; My auto has no problem shifting into second. Smooooooth as can be (hehehe). The luxury of never having to set my coffee down while driving, is why I switched from "manuals" to "autos". :)
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    It seem that quite a few folks have only switched out the speakers and improved the sound considerably. Based on what I have read here, I would try that first. Good luck.
  • butler11butler11 Posts: 12
    I' ve had mine for about a month now .It's great you can hardly see the dirt on it.One problem I have is when I shift from 1st to 2nd (hard power shifting)washer fluid shoots out the back spray nozzles......Itook my car in today too get the paint looked at .It has very tiny black spots all over it.You can't see it just standing there but I know it is there.They are going to polish the whole car for me.
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    I have a '99 ES sedan, which uses the same tranny but with the 1.8L engine. 2nd gear has always been a problem for fast shifting. I can't recall how many times I have ground the gears trying to get into second from redline in first. I have found a way to get around it: When you shift into second gear at high rpm, don't totally release the throttle. Just come off about half-way keeping rpms up in the upper half of the tach without letting it fall. By doing this during the shift, it seems to go into second gear without a problem. It is probably not that great for the transmission, but it's certainly better than grinding the gears, or missing the shift while protecting your ego (i.e., racing that Civic next to you at the light...)
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    I am house sitting for a friend for the next two weeks. They left me their cars, house, food, and seven monsters (two cocker-spaniels, three cocker-spaniel puppies, one datsun/hound mix, and a retriever/something mix). Anyways, one of the cars is a 2001 Ford Focus Wagon SE automatic with the 130hp 2.0L Zetec engine. I found a lot of good and bad points with it.

    First the good... The Focus has a tilt/telescoping steering wheel. It has 95% of the Pro5 handling, but maintains a much more luxurious ride. The Focus is quiet, quiet, quiet. Tons of headroom and legroom. Nice sound system (especially the easy to grip and turn rubberized volume knob.)

    Now the bad... Where are those 130 ponies hiding? Three seconds with the gas pedal to the floor before a downshift. Tiny, miniature steering wheel. Cupholders don't hold anything more than a soda can or small 16/20oz drink. Here ponies, ponies, ponies... Vertical mount of power window buttons is difficult. Every door automatically unlocks when you turn off the vehicle. ...nine one thousand, ten one thousand... ok ponies, ready or not here I come!!
  • smostormsmostorm Posts: 11
    i've had my blue p5 for about two weeks. i love it. so after 7 years of driving junk-boxes, i hit my first deer with my brand new p5. smacked it going 60 mph. the front bumper(including one headlight and both grills), hood, and left fender are destroyed, not to mention the radiator is leaking. i'm completely bummed out. just my luck, ya know? it's extremely difficult not to dwell on, so i am venting anyway i can. anyone know how difficult it is to get p5 parts this early in production? i don't want to be away from it too long. i also hope this doesn't have any long-term affect on the cars reliability or performance, that is if it isn't totalled. not cool.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    Oh deer! sorry to hear about the story Andrew. All my sympathize. Hope that you can repair it ASAP.

    Bruno
  • phasorphasor Posts: 12
    What garbage , yellow P5's a myth. When I picked up my new blue P5, a yellow one was sitting there waiting for an owner who bought a week before me. Quite an eye-catcher, not my fave color tho.
    My dealer has twice mentioned to me that there will be a short-shift kit available for the P5. I didn't question him on it because I wasn't interested at the time, but I'm having the same problem shifting into second that others are. Anybody else heard anything? I also want the MP3 player out of the MP3, aparently Mazda will sell it seperately so you can put it in Protege's? I hope that's not just a rumor.
    The only good thing about the ZX3 - Ford let me test drive a new one by myself. It has wickedly bad blind spots and a VERY annoying up-arrow light that comes on when you are supposed to upshift! Excuse me but I'm not 5 years old! Massive recalls for the 1999 and 2000 models as well. No thanks!
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    Andrew, find a really really good auto body shop in your area. Try to get referrals from friends or co-workers. It might not hurt to ask your Mazda Service Advisor, whom he might recommend. Nonetheless, in this day and age, very few cars live out there life with out some kind of collision damage. Without a doubt, this "dang deer" accident is a bummer. However in my opinion, the sooner you get the car fixed by a high quality auto body shop, the better you will feel about your PRO-5!

    Respectfully,
    Larry
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    3 weeks after purchasing my 2001 Protege ES sedan in black, someone in my neighborhood swiped it and left a huge scratch on the front, but no insurance information. UGH! I took mine back to the Mazda collision center for its repair. Since black is a hard color to match, I was worried. Turned out perfect though. I suggest you do the same thing. And for my little scratch, they had the car for a week. But still, good as new now.
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    I could have sworn I saw a short shift kit from MazdaSpeed at CorkSport, but I don't see it on their site anymore. As for the MP3 player, you can get one a whole lot cheaper from someplace like Crutchfield. They have 12 models available from Aiwa, Clarion, Jensen, JVC, Kenwood, Panasonic, Rockford Fosgate, and Sony. They range from $230 to $620. I am sure this will be considerably cheaper than the dealer price. Remember, the Protege MP3's player is just an aftermarket Kenwood eXcelon unit and doesn't match the interior at all. Plus, I hear it's extremely hard to read in the sunlight and doesn't sound that great.

    Personally, I would go for the Sony unit which is $330. I have always had a great experience with Sony electronics. Plus, it's black and silver design would go well with the interior of the Pro5. The main controls on the Sony (volume, tuning, track selection) are on the left side towards the driver. The Kenwoods have those controls toward the passenger for some strange reason. The Sony even comes with a remote and preamp outputs for an amplifier.
  • can anyone who has replaced the rear speakers on their p5 tell me what color the wires are for the left and right?

    In addition, has anyone noticed a metallic rattle sound while shifting when the engine is cold? It is most noticable when shifting from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd. It kinda sounds like an exhaust heat shield but I checked all of them and they seem resonably secure.
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