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Mazda Protege5

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  • butler11butler11 Posts: 12
    I' ve had mine for about a month now .It's great you can hardly see the dirt on it.One problem I have is when I shift from 1st to 2nd (hard power shifting)washer fluid shoots out the back spray nozzles......Itook my car in today too get the paint looked at .It has very tiny black spots all over it.You can't see it just standing there but I know it is there.They are going to polish the whole car for me.
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    I have a '99 ES sedan, which uses the same tranny but with the 1.8L engine. 2nd gear has always been a problem for fast shifting. I can't recall how many times I have ground the gears trying to get into second from redline in first. I have found a way to get around it: When you shift into second gear at high rpm, don't totally release the throttle. Just come off about half-way keeping rpms up in the upper half of the tach without letting it fall. By doing this during the shift, it seems to go into second gear without a problem. It is probably not that great for the transmission, but it's certainly better than grinding the gears, or missing the shift while protecting your ego (i.e., racing that Civic next to you at the light...)
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    I am house sitting for a friend for the next two weeks. They left me their cars, house, food, and seven monsters (two cocker-spaniels, three cocker-spaniel puppies, one datsun/hound mix, and a retriever/something mix). Anyways, one of the cars is a 2001 Ford Focus Wagon SE automatic with the 130hp 2.0L Zetec engine. I found a lot of good and bad points with it.

    First the good... The Focus has a tilt/telescoping steering wheel. It has 95% of the Pro5 handling, but maintains a much more luxurious ride. The Focus is quiet, quiet, quiet. Tons of headroom and legroom. Nice sound system (especially the easy to grip and turn rubberized volume knob.)

    Now the bad... Where are those 130 ponies hiding? Three seconds with the gas pedal to the floor before a downshift. Tiny, miniature steering wheel. Cupholders don't hold anything more than a soda can or small 16/20oz drink. Here ponies, ponies, ponies... Vertical mount of power window buttons is difficult. Every door automatically unlocks when you turn off the vehicle. ...nine one thousand, ten one thousand... ok ponies, ready or not here I come!!
  • smostormsmostorm Posts: 11
    i've had my blue p5 for about two weeks. i love it. so after 7 years of driving junk-boxes, i hit my first deer with my brand new p5. smacked it going 60 mph. the front bumper(including one headlight and both grills), hood, and left fender are destroyed, not to mention the radiator is leaking. i'm completely bummed out. just my luck, ya know? it's extremely difficult not to dwell on, so i am venting anyway i can. anyone know how difficult it is to get p5 parts this early in production? i don't want to be away from it too long. i also hope this doesn't have any long-term affect on the cars reliability or performance, that is if it isn't totalled. not cool.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    Oh deer! sorry to hear about the story Andrew. All my sympathize. Hope that you can repair it ASAP.

    Bruno
  • phasorphasor Posts: 12
    What garbage , yellow P5's a myth. When I picked up my new blue P5, a yellow one was sitting there waiting for an owner who bought a week before me. Quite an eye-catcher, not my fave color tho.
    My dealer has twice mentioned to me that there will be a short-shift kit available for the P5. I didn't question him on it because I wasn't interested at the time, but I'm having the same problem shifting into second that others are. Anybody else heard anything? I also want the MP3 player out of the MP3, aparently Mazda will sell it seperately so you can put it in Protege's? I hope that's not just a rumor.
    The only good thing about the ZX3 - Ford let me test drive a new one by myself. It has wickedly bad blind spots and a VERY annoying up-arrow light that comes on when you are supposed to upshift! Excuse me but I'm not 5 years old! Massive recalls for the 1999 and 2000 models as well. No thanks!
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    Andrew, find a really really good auto body shop in your area. Try to get referrals from friends or co-workers. It might not hurt to ask your Mazda Service Advisor, whom he might recommend. Nonetheless, in this day and age, very few cars live out there life with out some kind of collision damage. Without a doubt, this "dang deer" accident is a bummer. However in my opinion, the sooner you get the car fixed by a high quality auto body shop, the better you will feel about your PRO-5!

    Respectfully,
    Larry
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    3 weeks after purchasing my 2001 Protege ES sedan in black, someone in my neighborhood swiped it and left a huge scratch on the front, but no insurance information. UGH! I took mine back to the Mazda collision center for its repair. Since black is a hard color to match, I was worried. Turned out perfect though. I suggest you do the same thing. And for my little scratch, they had the car for a week. But still, good as new now.
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    I could have sworn I saw a short shift kit from MazdaSpeed at CorkSport, but I don't see it on their site anymore. As for the MP3 player, you can get one a whole lot cheaper from someplace like Crutchfield. They have 12 models available from Aiwa, Clarion, Jensen, JVC, Kenwood, Panasonic, Rockford Fosgate, and Sony. They range from $230 to $620. I am sure this will be considerably cheaper than the dealer price. Remember, the Protege MP3's player is just an aftermarket Kenwood eXcelon unit and doesn't match the interior at all. Plus, I hear it's extremely hard to read in the sunlight and doesn't sound that great.

    Personally, I would go for the Sony unit which is $330. I have always had a great experience with Sony electronics. Plus, it's black and silver design would go well with the interior of the Pro5. The main controls on the Sony (volume, tuning, track selection) are on the left side towards the driver. The Kenwoods have those controls toward the passenger for some strange reason. The Sony even comes with a remote and preamp outputs for an amplifier.
  • can anyone who has replaced the rear speakers on their p5 tell me what color the wires are for the left and right?

    In addition, has anyone noticed a metallic rattle sound while shifting when the engine is cold? It is most noticable when shifting from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd. It kinda sounds like an exhaust heat shield but I checked all of them and they seem resonably secure.
  • elec3elec3 Posts: 160
    The wires you are looking for are a pinkish color (not quite red, may have some white or silver spots or paint on it) for positive and yellow with a black stripe for negative. The wires should be run right next to each other. The same color wires are used for each rear speaker - meaning you can't differentiate between rear left and rear right by wire color, only by location (as the wires are run separately into each door).

    As for the rattle, I have an automatic and have noticed this too. So have others. In the first minute or two after I start the car the engine does seem to rattle a bit under hard acceleration. Seems to go away after that and doesn't seem to affect performance. I wouldn't worry too much about it. I don't even notice if I have all the windows and the moonroof closed.
  • Hi all, I'm new to the Mazda family. I've had my yellow p5 for about 3 weeks now and loving it. It has the 5spd with all options on it. They still have 1 more yellow 5spd with everything except alarm left. So if anybody's close to Knoxville/Alcoa TN area they have 1.
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    Remember, hard acceleration on a cold engine will signicantly reduce the life of that engine. The Protege's engine is an iron block and aluminium head. Those two metals heat and expand at different rates and rapid heating could eventually cause problems.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Sorry to hear about the deer. Just remember it could've been worse: I "smacked" the rear end of a stopped Volvo station wagon doing 40-45 mph when I hydroplaned in my 8-month-old Protege LX in 1992. Totaled! Walked out of it though, and they didn't have air bags back then!

    I'll echo Larry's comments ... take your time and find a good body shop. DON'T DON'T DON'T take it back to the dealership's shop! Been there done that, then had to take it to a REAL body shop to have it done right!

    Meade
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    I placed those Pioneers into the front doors of my '99 LX w/o a problem, so they should fit fine into your P5's front doors.

    They sould great too. Much more volume (and bass boost) than the stock Pioneers.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Why you say not to take it back to the dealership's shop? I took mine there, and had no problems at all. They were very nice and courteous, and the work was great as well. Of course, all I had was a scratch (they did have to remove the front bumper and fender though), not as much damage as hitting a deer.
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    That goes to show you! Meade had a poor experience with a dealer afilitated auto body shop and Paul's experience was fine. Thats why it's important to get a referral from someone you trust. If you DON"T know anyone to get a referral try your Mazda Service Advisor, Better Business Bureau or the local AAA.

    Respectfully,
    Larry
  • mpgmanmpgman Posts: 723
    My feelings exactly after renting one. The telescope feature is a good idea, but it doesn't come back far enough to suit me. The Zetec felt sluggish. This car needs a better engine to make it a real winner. Everything else is pretty decent, except for the side mirrors that don't fold and the exaggerated Reynold's Wrap look of the headlights.
  • doctor_rdoctor_r Posts: 27
    So it's been damn near a month now, no car. Called the dealer today he proceeded to tell me that the boat is supposed to dock tomorrow. This would put my car in Sask in 10 to 14 days. At least I finally have somewhat of a rough guess at a time-frame. Can't wait to see my new silver P5, 5spd, loaded up.

    Thank the heavens...
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Sorry it took me so long to reply; I had meetings most of the day yesterday. I said don't take it to a dealership's body shop because in MOST (not all, but most) cases, the dealership body shops can be compared to professional, stand-alone body shops in much the same way as you can compare the meat department in your grocery store to a stand-alone butcher. The dealership body shops that I've dealt with did not have the level of expertise, quality of equipment OR experience with different makes and models of cars. I'm not saying they're all bad -- there's no way I could know that -- but when I suffered a hit-and-run crumpled fender with my Mazda truck three years ago, my dealership's body shop screwed it up THREE TIMES -- never could get the paint to match or get the ripple out of the fender -- before I finally took the truck to a reputable, professional body shop that fixed my repair AND the other body shop's mistakes!

    To make another analogy, would you rather buy your car a stereo at an auto sound store or Wal-Mart?

    Meade
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