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Acura RSX (All years/types)



  • 719b719b Posts: 216
    you guys act like if a car doesn't have double wishbone in the front it must handle like a yugo.
    i guess every other manufacturer that doesn't have double wishbones isn't even worth considering.
    not many choices left... is there?
    we might as well go back to the horse and buggy
  • BMWs use struts in the front, and no one ever accuses them of poor handling. It's not so much the configuration (unless it's something like swing axles) as the geometry and tuning. Granted, since struts don't have as good a camber change curves as A-arms, in order to optimize handling you need to make the car pretty stiff in roll, and on a front drive car this can mean wheelspin in low speed turns, but it's not that big of a difference on a street car,
  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    I'll never be convinced that taking a technological step backwards from wishbones to struts is a good thing. Honda did it for one simple reason: they say "Packaging Efficiency"--I say "money." Struts are cheaper, and the average Joe and Betty America will never have a clue as to what they're missing.

    Robertsmx--I too drove a RSX-S, but did not perceive a $3000 differnce in performance over the '98 GS-R I owned at the time. Honda is goofy not to make a LSD standard in this car.
  • What's the advantage of having an LSD?

    what's the advantage of Double Wishbone vs Struts?

    I'm yer average Joe Public always willing to learn, but not willing to go out and do all the necessary research. Just lazy.
  • I'm looking to buy a new RSX Type S in the next six months and I'm thinking about adding the following accessories. The rear spoiler, fog lights, moonroof visor, wheel locks & splash guards. I'm worried about the spoiler, moonroof visor & splash guards adding wind noise and drag. Should I get these accessories or leave them off?
  • fxashunfxashun Posts: 747
    $3000 in extra refinement, solidity, engineering in the new RSX. It's much more substantial looking and feeling than the last Integra which felt kinda crude in comparison.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    I was quoted a price of just under $20K for a '99 GSR (before I bought the Prelude), but that was not the MSRP. Integra GS-R stickered at about $22.5K.

    You may be right about saving $$$ by using struts. The world does it anyway. But when it can be made to perform as well, or better (as in this case, IMO), why not? Plus, better safety, smaller car with more room! Refinement, better stereo, better transmission, and better engine on top of it.

    LSD will add weight, and that has been a Type-R thing in the past, more useful on a track oriented car than a GT coupe that RSX-S is, or GS-R was. And it is there in the new Type-R.
  • uthinxuthinx Posts: 21
    Just for general interest here is the location of sales figures for sporty cars in the US. These figures are for Sept., Oct. are not yet posted. (Not a link but you know what to do.)

    Now you know why you see so many Mustangs.

  • uthinxuthinx Posts: 21
    Okay it came through as a link without my having to do anything. Thanks Edmunds for easy posting setup.
  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    Nice link. Good info.
    The Integra never actually hit sales of 60k units/yr. The most g3 Integras were sold between '94-96 and that was close to 50,000/yr which is considered excellent (back then it was the same as BMW 3-series before they really picked up), especially for a sporty car. That would 've brought it into the top 7 on this list, if those sales continued today (I can't believe they consider the Intrepid a sporty car, I 've been in a new one, it felt & handled like a boat). Actually in '99 when I bought my GSR, Integra sales were at 33k/yr. Now I see in '00 YTD (9mos up to Sept.) the sales were 21.6k which would mean around 27k Integras were sold for the whole year. That is more than the 25k projected RSXs. Did Acura have more faith on the Integra than the RSX?
    Bear with me here.. If you look at the current September sales compared to last year's, the RSX sold about 30% more than the Integra did last year. So if this is true then the RSX should sell way over 30k units or at least more than the Integra did last year. It should be more than 25,000 target that Robert mentioned. Then again, last September of '00, Integra sales should 've been low because in Oct. the '01 Integra came out, where with the RSX, it's a new model and it's only the 3d month out, which may explain why the sales are so much higher in Sept. than last September's Integra sales.
    I think they should 've kept the name Integra. It would 've generated more sales, especially with all those Integra fanatics out there. I 'm just very surprised that Acura calculated that it would sell just as many or less RSXs than Integras. Their profit margin must be bigger for sure..
    BTW, did anyone notice the sharp decline in Celica sales? About 30% less this year!
  • fxashunfxashun Posts: 747
    that Acura knew the changes in the name and the car would estrange many of the Integra loyalists. It's not the same car that the Integra was. It's trying to bring it's model up to be taken more seriously.
    On the professional market analysts level the Integra was holding the Acura nameplate down with all the boy racers riding in dropped and cartooned out Integras. You wouldn't want to buy a $40,000 RL and see another Integra with a 4 foot high wing on it in the lane next to you.
  • beowulf7beowulf7 Posts: 290
    Joe, I personally like spoilers/rear wings, whatever you want to call them. Recently, I made an observation wherein fewer RSXs are equipped with this gadget than Integra coupes, and many on this board want to leave them off. I, on the other hand, think it really adds to the styling. So go ahead and get it as long as it doesn't block your rear view vision. You can even install the kit yourself like mitsugst did. (He wrote a how-to outline a few hundred messages ago.)

    I also like fog lights. Maybe it's b/c I'm relatively young (in my 20s), I like these gadgets (spoilers, fog lights, tinted windows, etc.). Not that I'm saying the older posters on this board don't like them b/c of age, but I digress. However, Acura will *rip* you off on fog lights. If memory serves me right, they'll charge you a few hundred dollars to put fog lights on the RSX, whereas any local auto accessories guy can put fog lights of *your* choice for less than half the cost.

    I don't know if the moonroof visor adds much value (monetary or pleasure). Yes, it adds to wind drag and noise. And I say leave the splash guards to the 18-wheelers. Just my opinion.
  • fxashunfxashun Posts: 747
    Rock chips and asphalt spatter look much worse than factory designed splash guards. Aftermarket ones suck though.
  • i bought a rsx base month later check engine light came on; i took it to the dealer who downloaded a new computer progam from acura and installed the new program in my car's computer. however, now the check engine light does not come on even when i start the car. any ideas about this? did acura just turn it off? am i at risk about the diagnostic chores of the original program? any one else have this problem? any or all information greatly appreciated. btw,i am a 53 yo man in cambridge, ma. and many of the observations on this site are informative, interesting info. thanks... the brakes do seem less than spectacular,has anyone had the car long enough to notice an improvement? thanks mistery 33
  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    I got the check engine light on my '01 Civic EX 1 month after I bough mine too. That's what we have to put up with when buying a new model first year out. Actually mine was legit. The code showed "evaporator canister leak"! This means gasoline was evaporating from somewhere. They had to drop the gas tank 5-6" and found a loose hose which had a little plastic clamp that didn't hold one of the hoses tight. They installed a screw type clamp that fixed the problem. Other Civics with the same exact error code have had a bad solenoid (canister) that would let gas escape. My last '97 Civic (2nd year out) had no problems until I sold it with 140k mi. on it. 1st year models are always a pain and I broke my rule never to buy 1st year out. I got a great deal on it ($200 over dealer invoice) but I think I 'll pay for it in other ways.
    Shouldn't be too bad though. I see what all my co-workers go through with their new Fords & Chevys and it's a horror show! In some cases the dealer can't even diagnose the problem! Intermittent stalling, air bag lights staying on, all kinds of recalls they have to bring them in for, etc. etc.
    My '99 Integra has 0 recalls but that 's 6th year out. Look at a Mustang model 3d year out. The same recalls and Technical bulletins are there throughout the years.
    I periodically go to and look for service bulletins for all my cars so I know what to expect and make sure there are no major problems.. Take a look at the Mustang, Explorer & Expedition ones.. some are very funny like "windshield washer spraying by itself", wipers engaging on their own, etc.
  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    Apparently, no one wants to buy the RL, period.

    robertsmx: Call me crazy, but I'd gladly throw out the added weight of the leather interior to get the performance benefit of a limited-slip differential. Chuck that lame Bose stereo, too, while you're at it. A LSD doesn't weigh much more than that silly "richbass woofer" in the spare tire. What a gimmick.
  • Make sure that your gas cap is tightened properly. It should click about three times. Apparently the sensor that checks the pressure in the tank (used for vapor emmisions) is very sensitive.
    It takes one or two driving sessions for the light to shut off. If it stays on, call the dealer.
    Mine did it last week when a cold front came through (I never cranked the gas cap up until then)
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    And it may take a few trips to reset the indicator after you've closed the cap properly.
  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    Thanks guys but I probably knew that way before anyone on this board. That was the first thing I checked because I had that happen to me with my '97 Civic back in the winter of '97! A gas attendant (you can't pump your own gas in Jersey!) had only turned it just slightly and I had the light come on after only driving away a few miles with my '97 HB.
    Luckily I had read the entire manual when I bought the car and that was one thing that stuck in my head :)
    Anway, yes, I drove around with that light on in my '01 EX for 3 days (300mi). I tightened the gas cap many times, turning the engine on and off about 10 times and then finally called the dealer who after listening to what I had done, told me to bring it in asap.
    Just recently, the NHTSA posted this exact same problem I had with the clamp, as a RECALL (not TSB)! Now I 'm curious to see how long it will take them to mail me the notification..
    Did anyone see the Edmund's review of the '02 Civic Si? It sounds like it might have a better suspension that the RSX because they said it's supposed to have the Civic Type-R "tuned" suspension. That doesn't mean it's the same though, just tuned the same.. very ambiguous. Larger brake discs all around, etc. etc. Very heavy though, 2744lbs!! It's has the same RSX chassis but with a shorter wheel base which usually means better handling. We 'll see.. I don't expect it to be a sub-7sec. 0-60 car weighing that much.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Heavy when compared to previous Honda hatchbacks, but looks like the emphasis was on chassis dynamics (handling) than on acceleration. Afterall, most Si's would be bought with aftermarket in mind. In the C&D preview, they seem to love the car, and impressed with the way the car handled at 130 mph on the Autobahn! Thats impressive. Most cars loosen up at 65 mph.
    Still, 0-60 may be about 7.5s.
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