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Acura RSX (All years/types)

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  • kevin111kevin111 Posts: 991
    "The RSX only comes with Sportshift tranny in Hong Kong. "

    - Hu? Are you talking about an auto like the one on the M3 or an auto with the feature to shift up and down gears like on the Acura CL and TL? The RSX most certainly does have the latter version of auto-shifting in the states.

    - Also, the Sportshift will automatically bump you up or down if you overstress the tranny (rev too high or too low.
  • I think what rk922 meant is that in HK, the RSX is only available with SS, they arent offered with manual...

    I find that the only times I use SS are when I'm showing someone the car for the first time...or when I'm first in line at a stoplight or sign, and theres some open space and a decent speed limit in front of me...accelerate, shift up to the speed i want, then flip over to auto. repeat at next stoplight/sign... : )
  • rk922rk922 Posts: 22
    Yes, I confirm that in Hong Kong the RSX only has the Sportshift (which is the automatic with the clutchless 'manual' function). There is no Type S either.

    Also, the Sportshifter doesn't bump you up a gear if you over-rev, it just cuts the gas. It will downshift automatically to 2nd (I think, or was it 1st?) when you stop the car if you didn't downshift yourself from a higher gear. I don't think that it downshifts automatically if you are just slowing down.

    clogoodie>

    But do you think that you would damage your tranny if you used the Sportshift all the time?
  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    Based upon reported (and acknowledged by Honda) SS problems in the Prelude and Acura TL/CL, I'd have to think that using the SS feature continually in high-load situations (downshifting into the upper end of the rev range) would increase wear.

    The RSX is lighter than the Prelude/TL/CL, and has less torque to be managed by the torque converter, but I don't get as good a feeling about Honda's manually-controlled automatics as I would about one from Mercedes or Audi.
  • Honestly, I don't know...I don't know anything about the SS problems himlier references...and I don't know enough about how the SS actually works to give you an answer. For how I use it, it feels fine...and I'd be inclined to think that if you didn't do things like downshift into very high revs constantly, you'll be alright. I was also under the impression that SS was idiot-proof...

    So can i ask why you'd want to use the SS at all times?

    Himlier...I'd prob trust the Honda SS over a Hyundai one, lol...
  • rk922rk922 Posts: 22
    I'd like to use the SS all the time just for the feel of a manual and its benefits (engine braking/less brake use, better control, faster).

    PS The 5 spd manual isn't an option because it's not idiotproof enough for me HAHA!
  • rk922rk922 Posts: 22
    I'm really thinking of buying very soon and I was wondering how much leeway I can bargain, in percentage terms. I mean, roughly, what were the starting asking price from your dealer and how much did you manage to knock down the price in percentage terms?

    Thanks!
  • kevin111kevin111 Posts: 991
    Like www.cars.com (if available where you live), carsdirect.com, autoweb.com, autobytel.com.

    From there, you can usually pit dealers against each other. From autobytel.com, I was offered an RSX auto for $19,300 including destination. Usually, you can get the price close to invoice. Especially if it is not a hot model. If it is (like an RSX-S around in California), then there will not be much room for barganing, and you will probably have to pay close to MSRP.
  • kevin111kevin111 Posts: 991
    by you. Try to work up from there (or down from there if you can). If you have a good price to start with, it is easier to negotiate. Do not go into the dealer looking to buy right off the bat. Make them work for your business!
  • rk922rk922 Posts: 22
    Thanks for the sites. Unfortunately, there is usually only 1 dealer per car brand in Hong Kong, so playing one dealer off of another can't be done here. Acura is represented by only one dealer, so it's basically a monopoly. They do still have an open ear for a little 'bargaining', so just wondering how much I can reasonably expect. Guess you guys have it better in the States.
  • kevin111kevin111 Posts: 991
    When I was shopping for a car, Consumer Reports had stated in their magazine that you should always have at least 2 cars to choose from. This way if there is only one dealer, you can make them work against other dealers of other cars. Also, try one of those websites (also priceline). You might be surprised at what price comes back.

    RSX - compares with Civic SI, Huyndai Tiburon, Mazda 6 V6, Subaru Impressa, Mazdaspeed Protege, Ford Focus SVT, the volkswagon GTI (and Passat), you get the idea.

    Just pick another car that you could settle with.

    Personally, I really like the RSX (got a friend to buy one), but I would be happy with any of the cars mentioned above.
  • rk922rk922 Posts: 22
    Understood, and thanks again for your input. My 'lousy' predicament is that I'm pretty much set on the RSX. I think that the only other one that I might consider is the Celica, but over here it's over US$10,000 more expensive than the RSX for some strange reason. I guess I could always pretend to like the other cars just for bargaining purposes.
  • kevin111kevin111 Posts: 991
    Try the on-line thing first, go into the dealer (if you are ready to buy) and say you are looking at a couple other cars. See if he tries to "persuade you" to buy the RSX instead.
  • joe249joe249 Posts: 95
    Anybody got the scoop on it? Supposed to be 1 step above Type S and coming out 2004.
  • beowulf7beowulf7 Posts: 290
    kevin111, the RSX-S is still selling for around MSRP in CA?! In NJ, I got my RSX-S back in May for only a few hundred above invoice. I did bargain hard and was a repeat customer (previously leased an Integra from same dealership). But a couple other dealerships in the state were offering reasonable prices for the Type-S.

    joe249, what do you mean the TSX is "1 step above the Type S"? It has 2 more doors, but that's about it. I don't think HP will be dramatically different, b/c if it were, then TSX will steal potential TL customers.
  • joe249joe249 Posts: 95
    I meant in between RSX and TL (price)also,is it supposed to be a 4dr.RSX?
  • kevin111kevin111 Posts: 991
    Here in Southern California, the RSX-S is a hot car! Generally you see much more RSXs vs. WRXs and similiar cars. I remember wanting to test-drive one in May, and could not find a dealer that had one in stock! Generally, as soon as they came in, they were gone.

    Of course this is the land of the souped up and done-out civic/accord/integra.

    I am guessing it has a great deal to do with the weather down here and the highways vs. NJ. Much less pot-holes, snow, and ice in the SW vs. the NE.
  • beowulf7beowulf7 Posts: 290
    joe249: I thought I read somewhere that the TSX will be a 4-door version of the RSX (maybe a little longer), but it won't be more feature-rich or significantly more powerful. Otherwise, it would be infringing in TL territory.

    kevin111, I'm sorry to hear that the hype is still so high for the RSX-S in CA. Is the base RSX in that kind of demand, too? I guess the good news is that one would think that the RSXs should have a decent resale value.
  • kevin111kevin111 Posts: 991
    There is demand for the RSX, but you still see plenty of them on dealer's lots and can easily negotiate with them. I would have been able to get an RSX close to invoice, while a RSX-S would have gone for MSRP.
  • diploiddiploid Posts: 2,286
    "Otherwise, it would be infringing in TL territory."

    The 03 Honda Accord V-6 already does that (at least the base TL, anyway). Even so, the TL is up for a redesign, so the TSX and Accord entering TL territory will only be for a short while.

    The TSX is rumored to arrive on our shore with 200hp and ~170 lb-ft of torque from the 2.4L.
  • Is it possible to buy an RSX and insist they equip it with the sound system that comes in the RSX type S? Has anyone tried or know if this has been done?
  • is a rebadged, reskinned European-spec Honda Accord, from what I understand. Looks nice tho...
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    pretty much like the Accord here, IMO. I understand it is a little smaller, and they will probably change out the front fascia and taillights, which are very similar to the American Accord, if not identical. But the lines will give it away as a luxo-accord.

    My question is, how will they differentiate it from Accord, not TL. I guess Lexus sells a Camry XLE V-6 and calls it a Lexus ES300 by adding a little extra wood, so maybe Honda can achieve success doing the same thing.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    Just a reminder to please just provide a hyperlink to photos from other commercial websites. This is to insure that we don't infringe on anyone's copyright protections.

    And now back to the subject of the Acura RSX. Thanks for your participation!


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  • kevin111kevin111 Posts: 991
    the TL is based on the Accord platform. The TSX might be based on the Civic platform?
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    The new TSX is the European Accord, it has already been announced. The body is shorter and narrower than the U.S. Accord, but the platform is the same as the U.S. Accord, and the TL as you have so aptly pointed out!

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • beowulf7beowulf7 Posts: 290
    Take it from me, a Type-S owner, that you do *not* want to waste your money to ask the dealer to give you a Type-S sound system in the base RSX. You can get an aftermarket head unit (HU), amplifier (amp) and subwoofer (sub) that'll yield *much* better sound for probably roughly the cost of the upgrade.
  • My driver side leather sit is all wrinkled and the lower back position is getting swollen, it's no longer flat like the origial shape. I drove over 20k in around 4.1/2 months periods. I weight around 180lb(do I need a diet;)

    I use the Armor-All Leather Wipes. I don't know if that's enough to keep the leather sit healthy, because once they are wrinkled I don't think they'll ever go back to the original state.
  • acbeacbe Posts: 16
    There is a special leather protection kit that you can get from the dealer. If not from the dealer, then ask at any local auto store for a leather treatment kit. There are many different brands of products that can be used to protect the leather. I do think that you need more than just the wipes to keep the leather "healthy". Are there any "detail" places that can help do the job for you? That way you know it's done right and if you have any problems, you can always go back for touch ups!!!
  • Does anyone know how much the ACURA RSX with leather fully loaded cost? and if it a good car.
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