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Acura RSX (All years/types)

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  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,695
    the hand brake quite a bit in daily driving, and I like to have a short tight one. The first click in my integra produces some results, and the second click much firmer ones. I find that I need at least four clicks on any sort of incline to hold the RSX, and a solid 6-8 click yank to slow it while it is moving.

    Since rear discs were less common back in the days of my ancient integra ('88), I imagine they were putting in bigger drum brakes for the hand brake then than they are now.

    Something someone mentioned in the Civic SI forum has rung true for my RSX also: if I set the brake at night so that it holds the car still, I can come out in the morning, depress the clutch to start the car and have it roll...in other words, the hand brake is no longer holding the car - it has let up overnight. I would never park this car in neutral.

    But this car is so much more a driver's car than my last one in almost every respect, that these minor quibbles bother me not in the least! :-)

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • wrjoycewrjoyce Posts: 51
    Hey, I just read in a auto magazine that RSX is being remodeled (maybe that is not the right word) in JUly 2004. Does anyone know anything about this. I saw a picture and it looks like a moderate change in exterior.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,695
    about the right time...at least for a minor tweaking. I think the '07 will be all new. I am going to search for references, as I would like to see pictures of the "freshening", but if you stop by again, perhaps you could mention which mag that was?

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • wrjoycewrjoyce Posts: 51
    I was in Barnes and Noble and was looking at 6 different magazines, but they were all current. The back supposedly takes it cue from the old integra the front frankly looks like they swapped the neon for the sunfire.
  • wrjoycewrjoyce Posts: 51
    I guess I am a bit surprised that there is not more discussion in this room about the mid cycle refreshening. It would seem to be a big deal in terms of buying now or waiting a few more months. Anyone else have any other info Thanks
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,695
    like any mid-cycle freshening, it will most likely be cosmetic and minor. I doubt they will make any powertrain changes, since they will be bringing in the next gen in two years. Which means it does not impact the decision to buy now or wait very much. I will be anxiously checking the mail in the next few days, however, looking for car mags to come with pictures of the '05!

    PS what does "swap the neon for the sunfire" mean? Do you think it currently looks like a Neon? Or the Sunfire?

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • wrjoycewrjoyce Posts: 51
    Yes, i think it currently looks like a neon front, undistinguished, and I think they tinkered with the front to now look like a sunbird, ie not much improvement.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,695
    and sunfire are two different cars. Sunfire is the one they still sell - it is the "twin" of the Chevy Cavalier.

    I disagree that the current car looks like Neon, of course, because no way would I have bought it if I thought that, but I will certainly agree that it is not a stand-out in the world of cars! :-)

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • wrjoycewrjoyce Posts: 51
    I am deciding between a honda civic ex vs the accura rsx. there were only two negatives on thie RSX that i am (still) hoping will be corrected in the refreshing, the back seat cannot comfortably accommodate anyone who is over 5'8" and the front end of the exterior looked so bland. they are redesigning both the front and the back.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,695
    not looking at the SI because it is a hatchback? I only ask because otherwise it is the most direct competitor to RSX in the Civic line. And it has a more spacious back seat than the EX coupe. (and MUCH more spacious than the RSX)

    and with the '04 update to the SI's front end, the looks have definitely improved. I like the looks better than the rest of the Civics now, where last year the opposite was true.

    if you are ignoring the SI in favor of the EX, then you should be aware that the Civic will be a lot cheaper than the RSX, and will have a noticeable power deficit by comparison as well. And more body roll thru turns. And a timing belt with periodic replacement, vs the chain in the SI/RSX.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • feltfelt Posts: 105
    Hello all,

    I am considering a 5 speed and the manufacturer claims fairly impressive fuel efficiency. With conservative driving, what is your experience? Is 33 mpg reasonable on the highway?
    Thanks
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,695
    yes, most certainly.

    During break-in (conservative driving) I was averaging 31-32 in mixed driving.

    Now that I am past that point and driving more energetically, I am still averaging 30.

    So in an all-highway driving scenario, I am sure it would be easy to get 33 mpg, probably more like 35 (unless you are going 100 mph the whole way!).

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • feltfelt Posts: 105
    I appreciate your quick response. Friday, prior to reading your answer, I committed to a new RSX. It was reassuring to read your answer after the fact. I take delivery tomorrow. My previous car is a 1992 Acura Legend with over 180,000 miles. It has been a great car, and that I why I am returning to Acura.

    Thanks again.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,695
    I don't think you will regret it. It will have different driving dynamics from a '92 Legend, that is for sure, but as a small sport coupe it is buttoned down very tight, and with all the Honda quality of old, from what I have seen so far! :-)

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • RSX is a great car, although my MPG is a little worse than nippononly's. I drive a 2002 manual base RSX, mostly city, and get 27.5 in the summer, 25.5 in the winter (Chicago). On road trips (highway) I get 30.0 but I go 80 on the highway :). If I went 65 I'm sure mpg would improve. Not sure about getting 35 mpg like mippononly says, that seems a bit optimistic to me!
  • li_sailorli_sailor Posts: 1,081
    My mpg is about what others are saying...about 28 overall with my '02 type S.

    On another note, has anyone found a cargo liner for the RSX? I've found one that covers the area behind the rear seats, but I'd like one that covers the back of the rear seats when folded down. We have 2 dogs and I need to protect the rear area when they come along.

    Thanks!
  • feltfelt Posts: 105
    Yesterday, I picked up my new red RSX. First impressions are very favorable. The radio sounds better than I anticipated (The 92' Legend I traded had a BOSE system, and by comparison, the new radio is poor, but overall, I am pleased.) I quickly found a comfortable driving position, and love the handling of the vehicle. The dealer is about 90 miles from home, so I put a few miles on it getting home. Here in New Hampshire, we do very little "city" driving, so I have high expectations for fuel efficiency. I went out last night to check out the lights .... they seem brighter than the Legend (I am delighted with that as well).

    Safe driving to all.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,695
    cargo liner here. But then, I haven't been looking for one - sorry! :-)

    Thanks to these boards, I was prepared for the two most common complaints about this car before I bought it: poor radio and lots of road noise (mainly from the tires). Knowing ahead of time makes a lot of difference, and I am extremely satisfied so far.

    Anyone besides me getting inordinate amounts of static shock from the door when they get out of the car and close it?

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • felt, the base stereo is poor (Clarion headunit, Panasonic speakers). I replaced the headunit with an Alpine 9807 and it makes a WORLD of difference, even with the stock speakers. Well worth the money for a large increase in sound quality. Only think I don't like about the Alpine is the button layout is a little cramped.

    Since nippononly brought up tires, I have a question. If I replace the stock Michelins with a high performance tire, will the ride get stiffer? My wife already can feel every bump in the road and hates it - she wouldn't like it if it got any stiffer. Does it depend on which tire I buy? (currently leaning toward Bridgestone Potenza). Thanks if you guys have any feedback on this!
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,695
    the ride would get harder (and possibly even noisier) if you go to more sport-oriented tires. And I would bet it differs by brand and model of tire you buy. Are you hoping to accomplish one thing in particular with the switch?

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • nitromaxnitromax Posts: 641
    Here in New Hampshire, we do very little "city" driving, so I have high expectations for fuel efficiency.

    Congratulations on your new ride. Did you get your RSX at Sunnyside in Nashua?

    I get mine serviced there (routine maintenance) and they have an excellent staff. If the service maintenance requires that the car be there all day then they give you a loaner TL for the day....very nice. :-)
  • frailerfrailer Posts: 1
    Hello folks,

    I'm in the process of working out a lease for an Acura RSX-S. One of the models the dealership has has an "Autobahn" treatment. This is a clear plastic coating on the front and the back of the vehicle for "protection". Of course this treatment adds to the price of the vehicle (will increase monthly payments by 2 dollars).

    My concern is not the cost, but the eventual wear of this plastic coating. What is the verdict on this kind of thing. Bogus or functional?

    Thanks for the advice,

    Tom
  • Nippononly, well I am trying to improve traction (for launch), grip (in the corners), and road noise, whilst simultaneously trying not to piss off my wife by getting a stiffer ride. :)
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,695
    a tire with better tread grip and stiffer sidewalls - which is very UNLIKELY to also reduce noise, and will make the ride more jarring. Perhaps you should consider suspension upgrades instead?

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • bobstbobst Posts: 1,783
    I reduced the tire pressure to 29 psi and the ride is much, much nicer.

    Felt, you are better than I am if you found a good driving position so quickly. I tried several different settings with the seat and steering wheel until I found the best position for me.

    I love our RSX. I am 58 years old, and can't ever recall being so excited about a car.
  • :) Well, I knew I probably wasn't going to get all of it, that's just my wish list. Forgetting about the noise factor for just a sec, I was really hoping that grippier tires wouldn't mean a stiffer ride, but is sounds like that's the case. :(
  • alkrollalkroll Posts: 3
    I may be in the market for a new car in the coming year, and the RSX-S is high on my list. Can any of you tell me if the Type S requires premium gas? How about the base model? I live in Chicago, and our gas prices are quite high right now.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,695
    base model = regular 87 octane
    type S = premium 91 octane or greater

    as for michiganman, I should add that this is the first car I have had in a while where the chassis outclasses the tires, which is to say the car turns so quick and so true that it is easy to get the tires a-squealin' before you realize it. I like that the car is so capable, but when it comes time to replace the tires, I may look at upgrading.

    There is a great discussion on Edmunds somewhere (use the search tool at the left) on tires, which you should check out. In general, the little I know is that if you want better dry traction you can go with a really good sport tire (one that is NOT all-season, which is one of the compromises of the stock tire for the RSX), but it will be at the expense of everything else: harder ride, poorer wet traction, and especially more noise. Also less treadwear. But you can probably get the handling to go from good to very good or even outstanding.

    Better cornering comes from suspension and stiffer tire sidewalls. You will also get the stiffer sidewalls if you go with that summer performance tire, but it does make the ride more jarring. That is why I mentioned you can take a different route instead, like putting on bigger sway bars and other suspension modifications, which is a more civilized (ie better sport handling but better non-sport ride too) and more expensive way to accomplish your goal. Upgraded suspension pieces can make a lot more difference in general than upgraded tires (ideally you would want some of both).

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • feltfelt Posts: 105
    Hello All,

    For background: New "basic" RSX owner, less than 1000 miles

    The dealer told me that both the basic and the S will run on 87 octane. Both have anti-knock sensors, and will adjust the spark advance. The S, however, runs better on 91 octane.

    He stated Honda benifits from burning 91 octane because the S engine burns cleaner on 91 octane, thus improving the LEV (low emision) rating.

    He also told me the tires are very expensive. Personally, I am delighted with the handling, and ride. My first impression was the tires were noisy .... it was raining, and that seemed to intensify the noise. The next day on dry pavement, I have no complaint. We have few concrete roads here, but I suspect they will be noisy on concrete. Maybe the S type would not be as comfortable. The ride is stiffer. Living in the "north country" of NH, I need the all season tire.

    alkroll - In making your decision, pay close attention to what your needs are. You will find the basic RSX is plenty peppy .... and I got over 33 mpg on my first tank of gas. That is impressive. The S type does produce 40 more horsepower, but it is only in the additional 1000 rpm's. Look at the power graph, and you will see that for virtually all normal driving, the power for the basic and S engine are identical. But the S extends an additional 1000 rpm's. True, the S has a 6 speed transmission and stiffer suspension, and stiffer tires, but the ride is what some are complaining about.

    My interest: a quick "Sports Sedan" that delivers good fuel efficiency; is comfortable and attractive. It will never appear on a drag strip; nor be driven faster than 80 mph (and then only occassionally when passing). I found those requirement in the "basic" RSX. Others will have different criteria that will warrant the S type, but there is a "price" to be paid in terms of initial cost, ride, and tire noise.

    Happy RSX riding to all.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,695
    I believe the RSX-S has the same tires as the base. However, the suspension is different.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

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