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Kia Spectra Sedan

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,682
    Thanks for posting the update, backy.

    Indeed, quick work by Kia.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • spectramanspectraman Posts: 255
    Now the question is......

    Will KIA *voluntarily* pony up the airbag upgrade to the purchasers of the 2004.5 and early 2005 models?

    Enquiring minds want to know!

    -SM

    P.S. to any KIA reps reading this: What a great accompanying safety-related PR move it would make if KIA actually did offer the upgrade to affected new generation Spectra owners (at least in the U.S. and possibly Canada where all the initial hubbabaloo occurred!)
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,682
    you can wait and see if they offer it to you but I'd just call 'em up and demand that they give you the upgrade ASAP. It's a safety thing, matter of fact your recall notice might already be in the mail. It may be categorized as a "good idea" type of thing and not a serious safety concern though(seriously)so a TSB would be generated by the Home Team and available online at your favorite Kia dealer. I'd look into it right away, man, no, it's...it's...not a bird, it's not a plane...it's Spectraman! Enjoy it, man! I'd feel better cruising in my new world order Spectra if Kia did the airbag update tweak for me, though, huh?

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,692
    I don't want to be negative, but the fact that the IIHS test report specifically said "for cars made after January 2005" leads me to believe Kia has no plans to offer an upgrade. Recall that when IIHS released the updated frontal offset test results for the '04-'05 Elantra, they specifically said that Hyundai would update cars already sold. But it would be a great PR move and customer-sat builder for Kia to fix the airbags on pre-sold cars--i.e. "safety of our customers is important to us (like it says on our Web site)."
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,682
    backy, Kia should step up and offer to do the airbag fix, for PR's sake. It really would show me something impressive about their line of thinking beyond just collecting the cash and doing minimum, huh?

    It should be for pre-January 2005 Kia Spectra's as well.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • spectramanspectraman Posts: 255
    2004 Kia Spectra

    Redone Econo-Compact Stands Tall: Kia Improves Its Best Seller—And Creates A Sibling


    http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=100601

    EXCERPT

    As far as we can tell from a couple of test drives—and keeping in mind its $13,160 base sticker—we find no conspicuous flaws in the 2004 Spectra. Don’t consider that damning with faint praise; this is almost epiphanic considering past Kias.

    Its shiny, fit-and-finished exterior poses well alongside its Japanese Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla rivals in the compact-sedan market, which overall sells two million cars a year. Spectra’s interior is fine and respectable looking, with nothing too simple or austere for a car in this market.
  • spectramanspectraman Posts: 255
    Kia Keeps It in the Hyundai Family
    Date Posted 02-25-2005


    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Articles/articleId=104828

    EXCERPT

    SEOUL, South Korea — They say nepotism begins at home, and at Hyundai Group there's always a pretty strong chance the top jobs will go to somebody called Chung. This time the job is president and CEO of Kia Motors, and it's going to Chung Eui-sun, the 36-year-old son of Hyundai Motor Group chairman Chung Mong-koo.

    The younger Chung started at Hyundai Motor in 1999 as a purchasing director, having earned an MBA at the University of San Francisco.

    Also see:

    http://www.aiada.org/article.asp?id=34111

    http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200503/kt2005031118435511910.htm
  • arizonajoearizonajoe Posts: 123
    My Spectra EX has hit 11,450 miles (in 10 months). The only problem is an erratic one - sometimes gas will overflow, sometimes it won't. The dealer couldn't reproduce it in their one attempt, and it now happens to me only about half the time.

    I wish ABS had been standard, like it is on the new Sportage. No car in the Phoenix inventory had it (as an option).
  • spectramanspectraman Posts: 255
    S.Korea's Kia: New favourite in the Hyundai group?

    http://sg.biz.yahoo.com/050316/3/3racf.html

    EXCERPT:

    SEOUL, March 15 (Reuters) - South Korean car maker Hyundai plans to strengthen its Kia unit after handing control of the division to a son of its group chairman, an appointment analysts say signals big plans for a neglected brand.

    While investors have often shied away from Korean groups that appear to be putting the interests of their controlling families first, the choice of 36-year-old Chung Eui-sun as president of Kia Motors Corp. has been applauded despite his limited experience.

    Shares in Kia, the country's number two auto maker, rose as much as 10 percent after the appointment was announced late last month. They have gained 35 percent in 2005, more than triple the broad market's gain and far outstripping a 2 percent rise in parent Hyundai Motor Co. .

    "Kia is on the fastest track to success among Hyundai affiliates. It is bound to receive plenty of favours from the group to bolster profits," said Suh Sung-moon, an analyst at Dongwon Securities."
  • axel_roseaxel_rose Posts: 16
    What does the insurance run a new "improved" kia spectra? I just bought the Speck 5 in Spark Blue and have not inquired about how much my insurance is going to cost.
  • frisbee2frisbee2 Posts: 3
    Hey axel,
    I was getting new quotes for my new 2004 Spectra last week and found my current insurance with Westfield also had the best rates for me. I have no speeding tickets or at fault accidents on record. Annual premium with multi-car discount is only $542.

    Gotta love those extra air bags too!
  • frisbee2frisbee2 Posts: 3
    2 liter engine, with about 500 miles. My second tank of gas only got me 26.5 mpg/combined driving. I had a couple days of letting it warm up and defrost the windows, but I hope for better milage with warmer weather.

    What milage are other folks getting with this engine. I've got the 5 speed, and it turns 3,000 rpm @ 65 mph. Sounds like it needs another gear or better ratio on the highway. I purchased it for around town driving though, and have another car for trips and vacation.
  • axel_roseaxel_rose Posts: 16
    Not sure what state you are in but, that is a pretty good rate.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,692
    Hey, anyone notice that VW has labeled their new Jetta a 2005 model? Not to be confused with the last year of the previous generation Jetta, which was also a 2005. Does this sound familiar to anyone? I can hear the discussions in Germany:
    "We cannot call the new Jetta a 2005 model! It will be confusing!"
    "Nein--it worked for Kia!"
    "Ja, ja, that is true. Let's do it!"
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    Dumb idea for Kia, dumb idea for VW (who's tried this before-- didn't they do that with the almost last gen. "New Golf"?
  • sejongssejongs Posts: 5
    Hey, guys. I need your advise on this situation.

    I have an elderly neighbor couple who just bought Sedona and Spectra from the local Kia dealership three days ago.
    When I chatted with the lady last week, I just heard they were planning to remove his Durango (4 years old) and her Towncar (10 years, 110K miles), and going to buy Sedona and Spectra. So I suggested her to research on edmunds.com before visiting dealership, and recommended to visit the dealership across the bridge which is a lot farther than one in the town because I had good experiences with them before. And she said she would. Then suddenly they traded in Towncar and bought two cars on the first visit last Wednesday.

    Two days ago I asked her the reason to buy cars so quickly, and she said even though she felt to research more before buying anything, her husband just pushed her to go to dealership, and bought the cars right after test-drive (it's characteristic of him which I didn't know). She was continually saying that they still had 'buy one get one free' deal, and instead get a free Rio (basic one), they got $7000 discount on Speactra. And total price was 29K including 7K discount and her Towncar trad-in.

    However when I met her yesterday, she said she just realized that her Spectra didn't have power windows and power door locks which are very important because she's 73 years old. I asked her if she ckecked those when she had a testdrive. She said when she met the salesperson at the dealership, she clearly told him she wanted black color and the middle class one (EX), knowing that LX didn't have those options. Then he showed her and had a test drive. She was very satisfied with the car, so she decided to buy that without checking power windows and locks. And she realized it after they got home. I think she just trusted the salesperson because she told him she wanted EX.

    I know its her fault not to checking those options by herself, but they are very old and too easily trust people. I still feel really bad because I recommended the dealership to them, and didn't know they would buy cars like this. If I knew it, I would've forced them to bring me to the dealership.

    I know it's almost impossible to return a car after signing contract. But what options does she have?
    I need you guys' suggestions.

    Bunch of thanks in advance!
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,692
    Have they talked with the sales manager yet (maybe bringing someone with them they trust to help out)? That would be the first step. Some dealers have a "bring it back in x days if you don't like it" policy. If this dealer doesn't do that, then it is clear there was a mistake made, maybe an honest one, and since it's only been 3 days maybe the sales manager will let them swap for an EX (a demo with a few miles on it maybe). That is not much to keep these good customers (two Kias!) happy.

    Some states gives people some time to recind a contract; in my state it's 3 days. But it seems the 3 days has already passed so that may not work.

    If that doesn't work, then if I were your friends I'd see a lawyer. Oral contracts are as binding as written contracts. If the sales rep or sales manager agreed to provide an EX for the agreed price (and hopefully both of your friends heard that), or if there is anything in writing to that effect, they should have a good case.
  • spectramanspectraman Posts: 255
    Wow... almost a month without a new post in here.

    Since we don't want this topic to be closed out, I'll throw out a Spectra sedan update.

    Months of total ownership: 9+

    Miles to-date: 9,200

    Defects to-date: 3rd brake light replaced due to 2 defective diodes

    New defects since last report: None

    Biggest complaint: Less than world-class fuel mileage

    Best feature(s) observed: Quiet and smooth operation, great ride, great CD stereo, reliable starting and operation

    -SM
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,692
    So what kind of mpg are you getting? It would be interesting to compare to my Elantra GT which has the same engine (but maybe different gearing?).
  • spectramanspectraman Posts: 255
    My last official test came after the weather had warmed up considerably here in Michigan, and I was getting 25.5 mpg. This was observed during my daily commute which is a mixture of city and rural (quasi-highway like) driving.

    During the winter months however, I was consistently only getting 21-22 mpg. My wife's penchant for starting the car 10 minutes early (so it would be warmer when I took my kids to school) probably played a large role in the decrease.

    My best mileage to-date was a 29.5 mpg I got on a pure highway trip in the fall.

    My car's got the 4-speed automatic which is actually rated better than the 5 speed stickshift.

    My rpm at approximately 70mph is pretty low at around 2250 rpm. I'm very happy with the performance of the 2.0 Beta engine. It is smooth and *extremely* quiet at idle at 900 rpm. It definitely can be heard when I put my foot into it, but when the 4th gear overdrive kicks in, the engine sounds almost disappear.

    After talking with several KIA owners (all models), and the dealership, it appears that although KIAs now have smooth running motors, they tend to be thirsty.

    Hopefully the new Theta-family of engines will address this issue when they are rolled out through the KIA lineup.

    -SM
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,692
    That does seem a little on the low side, especially since the gearing on the car is pretty tall, e.g. 2250 rpm at 70 mph. I know the engine on my Elantra automatic turns faster than that on the highway. Yet it returns upper 30s in highway cruising at 65 mph and will give upper 20s-low 30s in an urban commute, depending on how much stop-and go driving there is. There is a big difference between what my wife gets and what I get. She tends to ride the accelerator and doesn't anticipate stops. She has trouble getting over low 20s in around-town driving. I have a light touch on the pedal.
  • axel_roseaxel_rose Posts: 16
    I am getting 31 - 32 mpg on my 2005 Spectra 5.
  • spectramanspectraman Posts: 255
    http://autonet.ca/DriverSource/Stories.cfm?StoryID=13395

    EXCERPT OF A LONG TERM SPECTRA TEST:

    "...When I picked up the Kia there were 1,200 km on the odometer and our family has now driven it a further 11,600 trouble-free miles."

    -SM
  • spectramanspectraman Posts: 255
    http://autonet.ca/DriverSource/Stories.cfm?StoryID=13752

    EXCERPT OF FINAL LONG TERM SPECTRA TEST:

    "As I shovelled out the driveway -- yet again -- and swept the latest snowfall off the Spectra LX sitting there, I thought back to the rainy spring day when I picked up the blue sedan at Kia headquarters in Mississauga.

    Now, after seven months of happy motoring, it was time to say goodbye to our latest long-term test car.

    Since last June, a lot of pavement has rolled by under the Spectra's wheels, and three seasons have come and gone -- yet my initial impression of the car has held true: this is a well built, spacious and reliable compact sedan."

    -SM
  • spectramanspectraman Posts: 255
    http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosconsumer/0505/11/F03-177670.htm

    "Kia soon will offer a variety of budget-priced but dealer-installed body, exhaust and wheel packages for those who want to give their Spectra a "sport compact" treatment."

    "...If warranty issues can be addressed, Kia would like to offer a supercharger option to boost the output of the Spectra's 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine from its stock 138 to more than 200 horsepower.

    I recently drove several souped-up Spectra 5 prototypes and was impressed with the quality of the parts for the body kit and with both the look and the tone provided by the cat-back exhaust system.

    The lowering springs make the car's handling more dynamic. That performance can be enhanced by 18-inch wheels and high-performance tires; cars I tried wore Goodyear Eagle F1s or even grippier Nitto Neo Gens.

    The supercharger installation fits nicely between the engine and firewall. For those who can afford another $3,000, the performance boost is impressive."

    =============================

    200 hp with a supercharger, eh? Wow. I wonder if they've got any goodies in their engineering grab-bag to handle the ensuing torque-steer that's bound to come with such a HP increase?

    -SM

    http://spectraman.freeservers.com
  • dsch8dsch8 Posts: 1
    I think someone may have hit my parked Spectra while backing up, and I don't know if there is damage to the bumper. I was wondering, all of you current-generation Spectra owners, how is the fit of your front bumper? Is the black painted part completely flush with the grayish plastic piece on either of the sides near the wheel-wells, or is it distinguishably separated a tiny bit? Is there a bit of slack in the bumper when you push or pull on it? It seems just the slightest bit loose, but it is hardly noticable, only if you push on it or pull on it with a significant amount of force. I think I may just need some black touch-up paint and it will be fine, in which case, how much will a small amount of touch up paint cost me at a local dealership? I can't imagine that, even if the bumper is damaged, it will require any sort of repair, but if it does, do you know if it is covered under warranty, or how much it will cost? It would not require any new parts to the best of my knowledge. Has anyone had a similiar experience? I think the person who struck the car was not moving at much more than a roll.
  • spectramanspectraman Posts: 255
    http://internetweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=160503494

    Automakers Watching Consumers Online

    EXCERPT:

    Consumers posting their criticisms online about the cars and trucks they drive may not realize their views are being closely monitored by the automotive industry. Most of the major automobile companies employ marketing firms to keep close tabs on customer sentiment and how it's being reflected on blogs, discussion groups, listservs, and enthusiast sites.

    There is no way to opt out. Like it or not, people who write their opinions online are making their voices heard loud and clear with the big automakers. Meanwhile, Detroit is doing its best to make sure negative perceptions from dissatisfied customers don't sink the reputations of its latest models or its carefully crafted, expensive ad campaigns.

    -SM
  • spectramanspectraman Posts: 255
    DSCH8:

    What year and model of Spectra do you have? Is your car a U.S. or Canadian speced car? A Spectra, or a Spectra5? Your front clip description doesn't seem to match my car's front end. Here are some pics from the side and the front of a U.S. model:

    http://spectraman.freeservers.com/kia_spectra_01.jpg

    Here's a pic of a Canadian Spectra5:

    http://www.kia.ca/img/en/showroom/spectra5/gallery_main_01.jpg

    In any case, my front clip is securely attached and doesn't move. I'm with you though, that if the problem isn't very noticeable then leave it be. The repair will probably be expensive and be more noticeable.

    -SM
  • spectramanspectraman Posts: 255
    http://www.detnews.com/2005/specialreport/0505/15/A01-182019.htm

    EXCERPT:

    Upstart Hyundai/KIA guns for Big Three

    Once seen as a joke, S. Korean automaker is now the world's fastest-growing.

    SEOUL, South Korea -- Toyota Motor Corp. may scare Detroit's automakers, but there's one rival out there that worries Toyota.

    It's South Korea's Hyundai Motor Co. Already the fastest-growing major automaker, Hyundai says it wants to supplant Toyota as the industry's vehicle quality leader in three years.

    Such a goal sounds gutsy, coming from a carmaker that was a running gag on late-night TV not so long ago. But U.S. and Japanese auto executives take Hyundai very seriously now.

    "We're always looking in our rear-view mirror, and they're one that's coming up quickly," said Dennis Cuneo, senior vice president of Toyota Motor North America Inc.

    In just a few years, Hyundai has emerged as the industry pace-setter, after achieving huge strides in sales and quality -- and in about half the time it took Japan's leading carmakers.

    The family-run automaker, which also controls Kia Motors, has leapt from 16th in the global sales rankings in 1998 to seventh last year, just behind DaimlerChrysler AG.

    -SM
  • spectramanspectraman Posts: 255
    I misspoke when I wrote:

    "My rpm at approximately 70mph is pretty low at around 2250 rpm. I'm very happy with the performance of the 2.0 Beta engine. It is smooth and *extremely* quiet at idle at 900 rpm. It definitely can be heard when I put my foot into it, but when the 4th gear overdrive kicks in, the engine sounds almost disappear. "


    After having my car out on the highway yesterday for the first time in a long time, I realized that I had the RPMs wrong in this quote. My Spectra's 2.0 liter automatic is actually turning around 2,750 rpm at 70 mph. It's still true that there's hardly any engine noise all the way up until slightly past 3,000 rpm.

    -SM
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