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Mazda Protege5 Maintenance and Repair

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  • pro5mohpro5moh Posts: 29
    Thanks for the response..

    so, is it ok if i go for the 205/50/16 --- as mazda suggests 195/50/16..

    I mean i dont want to jeopardize my warranty for suspension and brakes/alignment... if mazda denies service on that(First of all, is my understanding rigth?? that if i change the size of my tire something else is gonna effected???)
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    I just called my dealer to confirm and they suggested talking to a tire specialty shop. So I called a Frisby Tire and they said that it would be okay "if there is enough room between the tire and the strut tower". They recommended an inch ("a couple of fingers") of room between the tire and the struts to be safe. I'm going to try that two finger test tonight (why do I feel like a gynecologist?) :surprise:

    I haven't replaced mine yet, but I've been saving my pennies for the big day at the end of the summer.
  • cdnp5cdnp5 Posts: 163
    I ran 205/50/16 on mine and had zero problems with them. I think others here have done it also. I believe there are more choices in this size so you should be able to find something you like.
  • I'm a happy Mazda owner.
    I've owned a 1997 MPV 4wd Sport for over 5 years now and have been very happy with it...
    NOT!!! happy with the local Dealer but very happy with the truck.
    Had a sticking lifter from the day I bought it (still under warranty) Engine knocked when cold. Recently had to pay WAY to much!!! to have the lifter replaced.

    SHOULD have been done under warranty.

    I recently purchased a 2002 Protege5 with the sport package and I'm in love with this car!!!
    It's fun to drive has not too bad gas mileage (compared to my MPV)
    and goes like snot....
    On the down side...
    The stock tires are totally worn out at 50K, Suggestions for new tires?
    The CD player skips badly and the dealer tells me this is normal,,,
    See NOT!!! happy with dealer (Mainway Motors in Saskatoon)
  • pciskowskipciskowski Posts: 155
    One of my lug nuts has gone missing. Anyone know a cheap place to get a new one (other than the dealer)? What size are they?
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    One of my lug nuts has gone missing. Anyone know a cheap place to get a new one (other than the dealer)? What size are they?
    Want to find three extra lugnuts? Put on wheel locks! :P

    I use McGard (model M12x 1.5 24157) and now have spare lugnuts in case some get worn or lost. Pepboys and other suppliers should have them.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    The stock tires are totally worn out at 50K, Suggestions for new tires?
    Is that 50K as in kilometres or miles? If kilometres, join the group; if miles, you're one of the leaders of the pack. Search this board under "tires" and you'll find lots of info; a few choices mentioned by others: BF Goodrich Traction TA, Dunlop FM901, Kumho Ecsta 711 or 712 or ASX, Toyo Proxes TPT or 4.

    The CD player skips badly and the dealer tells me this is normal,,,
    Does it skip on all discs or just some? If all, it's the player, if some a bit of disc cleaning may do the job.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    My wife's got over 25% original tread left at over 39k miles. She's definitely easy on them. :)

    But we might be looking at new tires this fall. Best not to try driving during winter with that little tread on them. We're not THAT cheap. :)

    Probably looking at the BF Goodrich Traction T/A. She did say she wanted better fuel economy, which probably means a touring or passenger tire instead performance-oriented all-seasons, in which case I was considering Michelin Harmony tires, but that goes against the sporty nature of the P5.
  • dwryterdwryter Posts: 87
    > ...which probably means a touring or passenger tire instead performance-oriented all-seasons...

    I highly recommend against replacing the tires with lower-performance versions. We once put medium-perf tires on our '87 Acura Integra and the handling went from great to awful. I replaced them with hi-perfs within the week.

    On my P5 I recently replaced the original SP5000s with Pirelli PZeros, in one size up (205/50 16). They're great tires, and the additional cushening of the larger size makes for quieter and smoother roadtrips. Also, for the first time I feel confident driving the P5 in the rain; no more hydroplaning over freeway puddles. The downside is more sideways motion at turn-in and through curves. Still lots of fun, but whereas I would never corner at a speed approaching the Dunlop's limits, I do get to the PZero's limits when playing hard. I think most people never push their P5 this fast through turns, though, so that may not be an issue. I noticed no difference in gas mileage.
  • pro5mohpro5moh Posts: 29
    I have replaced the original SP 5000 with BF Goodrich Traction T/A(One size up -- 205/50R16). They are very good, wud suggest this one...

    Coming to my prob.. I was told by Mazda Service center that i have to replace my Rear Brake Pads when i took it for service week days back. I have 25000 Miles on it and they quoted me $290.

    1) Is this a genuine problem, where rear brakes go first -- or is that part faulty.
    2) Does it cost $290 for replacing rear brakes.. any other good places that i could get this done with out compromising warranty?

    Thanks!
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Does it cost $290 for replacing rear brakes.. any other good places that i could get this done with out compromising warranty?

    Er, duh, yes!!! Why are you taking it to the dealer for something like that anyway? Don't you know you'll get gouged? Any reputable tire store will do it for half that, and give you a lifetime warranty on the brakes. At least that's what I found with the front brakes on my Protege: New front pads and turned rotors at Meineke, plus a lifetime warranty, plus new shoes on the rear (hey, the '00 Protege has rear drums, sorry!), for the grand total of $130. Plus a lifetime warranty on all of it. I had it done at around 60K miles and everything was still working like OEM when I traded the car two weeks ago with 91K miles on it.

    Keep your receipts in case your dealer ever tries to get you for not maintaining your car during a warranty issue. The dealer likes to see you get your routine maintenance at the dealership, but in most cases there's no requirement as long as you have records that the maintenance has been performed. For stuff like that I would never have the dealer do it unless there was a possibility it could be covered under warranty.

    That said, my Mazda dealer just started giving you free tires for life with every new car, including my new Mazda3. And in that case, there is a requirement that I have all my routine maintenance done at the dealership. (But routine maintenance means normal service procedures, aka 30K and 60K services. Not new brakes.)

    Meade
  • fp75fp75 Posts: 4
    Here is the follow-up on my P5 '02.

    I went to a Mazda dealer after my automatic transmission started to shift erratically on March 25th. My warranty expired on February 28th, and the 3 years check that I did at a different dealer one month prior to that did not show anything wrong, although the transmission fluid was very very dark and they replaced it.

    After going to that new dealer, I had to wait for a week to have them run a bunch of tests and finally changing a temperature sensor. From what the dealer tells me, the wait was mostly because my car is Canadian and I am in the US, and also because my warranty had just expired so they needed to find out who would pay for what. In any case, changing the sensor did solve the erratic shifting, but the transmission started to have a delay while shifting (new problem). Run another battery of tests to end up, after two weeks, having to change the entire transmission. Luckily, Mazda agreed to pay for eveything. It took 5 days to get a new transmission, and another week to change it. This brings us to April 20th, when the dealer called me to tell me my car is working fine. I went to pick up my car on April 22nd. At noon, I get a phone call from the service guy: "Sir, I have some bad news. Your car is not shifting in 1st and 2nd gears"...

    I have been without a car for 4 weeks, and I have to pay for a rental car in the meantime because the dealer won't give me one. Apparently the agreement is that they fix the car for nothing and I pay the rental. I am extremely pissed... :mad: :mad: :mad: In any case, I went to the dealer and calmly explained that I want them to pay for the rental for the rest of the time they will fix my car. The service guy seemed to feel bad and agreed to pay the rental. At the same time, he told me that in his opinion the new transmission is defective and should be replaced. However, since Mazda is footing the bill, they want him to run a series of new tests before agreeing to change the transmission again.

    I have never had such a bad experience with any car in my life! Even my Suzuki Swift did not cause me that much troubles. now the first thing I want to do is to get the :lemon: fixed, sell it and buy a Toyota Matrix.
  • kronogoosekronogoose Posts: 116
    I'm noticing a "squeak" each time I shift my '02 P5, it's so quiet that I have not heard it while the radio is on. I have experienced the clutch-shudder noted by other posters here (I just thought it was my driving!), but other than that, I've had no problems with the manual tranny. Does anyone know if the squeak is a sign that something is wearing out or going wrong with the transmission, or is it a harmless quirk of the P5? Thanks! - kronogoose
  • stewartcstewartc Posts: 3
    Mazda Canada fixed the problems. They advised the dealer to tap on a device called relay several time and see if the engine stalls. And so the dealer did and was able to make the engine stall. The dealer put a new relay (with a new design) on my car. With the new part, they could not make the engine stall.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    Mazda Canada fixed the problems ... The dealer put a new relay (with a new design) on my car. With the new part, they could not make the engine stall.

    Good to hear!

    The relay as I understand it is a small electronic part similar to a switch. Do you know why it malfunctioned: was it corroded or affected by condensation?

    Was there any charge to you?
  • I have had my 03 Pro 5 for about 2 years now. It's had a lot of problems :lemon: . Recently the 6 CD player completely froze up, I could not change CDs, eject, or anything. It was completely frozen. I turned it off/on; nothing changed. Also, my moonroof leaks when I wash my car (but not when it rains). I think it takes a lot of water to make it leak or something. Has anyone else had these problems? I'm totally disappionted with this car :( . I see a Toyota in my future. What am I supposed to do? I want to support an "American" company, but at what cost?
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    Were these Mazda installed parts? What did your dealer say when you pointed out these problems? Interesting that your moonroof is not affected by rain; you would think that if the seals have worn it would be leaking then also.

    The Protege5 is built in Hiroshima not the US. If the parent company is Ford, would that make Mazda an American company? A Ford Focus would qualify better as an American car, I would think.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Are you using one of those "wand" car washes, or an automatic wash with high-pressure jets? I wouldn't shoot those at a sunroof either.

    Did you put a CD with a label on it into your 6-CD changer? I did that with the single-CD player on my 2000 Protege (despite the fact that it says not to do it in the owner's manual) and it jammed, requring replacement.

    Even if that isn't the case, I really think you're being a little nutty here. CD players are not known for being indestructible (and the one in your car wasn't made by Mazda, btw), and sunroof gaskets can leak. That's why your car has a warranty. I note you said your car is only two years old. Take it to the dealer and get it fixed.

    And please tell us what real problems you've had that would cause someone to respect your use of the :lemon: icon.

    Meade
  • I have a 02 P5 with 90k and I have a check engenine as of this morning, Checked the oil and gas cap. What else should I check and is this common for mazda with less that 100k. ( There are 90% highway miles)
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Go get it checked. May I recommend Autozone or another store that will do it for free. The dealer will charge you a premium (sometimes up to $100) just to pull the code!

    Meade
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