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Kia Sedona problems

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  • I just bought, today, a used 2002 Kia Sedona LX with 9,500 miles on it. What sold me was the price and the remainder of the 5 year, 50,000 mile warranty. When driving home (about 50 miles from dealership)I noticed when I went over 40 miles an hour and needed to slow down for a light there was alot of vibration and thumping sounds that seemed like it was coming from the brakes, (and my hand on the steering wheel was actually shaking from the vibrations.) It does not have Anti-Lock brakes. Is this normal for this type of van.? Does anyone else have this problem. I traded in a 98 Plymouth Voyager and never had a problem like this. Joanie
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    those brake noises do not sound normal for ANY vehicle. Did you buy this Sedona from a dealership? Did you test drive the Sedona before buying it?
  • Yes, I bought it from a Kia Dealer and I did mentioned that the brakes did not feel right, he said it must have Anti-Lock brakes, but when the Assistant Sales Manager look at it; he said it does not have anti-Lock Brakes and there was air built up from the inspection it went under before they put it up for sale. During my 50 mile ride home it was so obvious that the problem was still there and worse. I called the Salesman on my cell phone and he said "Service" will need to look at them. Gosh, I was thinking, I need to bring in my Kia for service before I even got home. I did not mention in my earlier post, that because my husband was unable to test drive the Sedona with me, I could bring it back on Monday if we are not totally satisfied with the van. Not sure what to do. But my mechanic (I hope) will be able to look at it for me tomorrow.
  • That one's not going to stop you from driving, but you should bring that in for service at a Kia dealer right away. There could be a serious problem with the airbag system, and it might not deploy when you need it.
  • navyairnavyair Posts: 202
    80% chance your brake rotors are warped. Although unusual for 9.5K miles, if someone made an extremly high speed "panic" stop (IE mashed the brakes on from 65-75mph and did a panic stop), the heat build up can cause the rotors to warp, esp if they didn't allow them to cool.

    Although this is noisy and gives the jarring, it isn't particularly dangerous, except perhaps a little increased braking distance on a panic stop, and definately worth checking out. Usually when the rotors get warped, the brake pads also have glaze on them from the heat, and that is more of a problem.

    Brake rotors can generally be turned once on a lathe to remove the high spots and reduce/eliminate the "chatter" you feel. Some older (thicker) models can be turned more than once. I seem to recall a discussion on these boards that say these rotors are thin enough that once is all you can turn them. Perhaps HHenry or one of the others can pinpoint that one.

    Bottom line: A complete brake job is cheap, and your dealer will probably do this easily for you. The brake pads prob won't be covered by warantee, but the rotors should be...press for replacements, not turned ones.
  • Does anyone know if there is an easy way to reset a Sedona Radio? Mine has crapped out twice now and it's $30 a pop to have the dealer reset it, since it is just out of warranty.
  • smulveysmulvey Posts: 139
    1.) Thumping on used Sedona- My Sedona has 32,000 miles and the brakes work fine. I also HAVE had to do some panic stops, heavily loaded. It is most likely abused brakes. Since you just got the car it should be covered under any version of a 30 day used car warranty. It could even be someone in the service dept damaged them " test driving the car" for you. In any case it is a cheap thing to fix. Nep rotors and new pads shoul be less than $ 150 max. And it can be done at home if need be. I assume dealer will stand behind the producrt since you reported it on your drive home.

    2.) RADIO RESET- Question- What do you mean by " RESET" . I have had the power off my radio many times and when I restored the battery connection the radio worked fine. To " reset" the pre=selected channels simply tune to the station you like. Then hold done the number key ) 1,2,3,4,5,6 ) that you wish to assign to the station. Keep it down until you hear the station come back on the radio and you will now see a " STATION # " on the display.

    It works every time.
  • I took the van to the mechanic and he said it needs two new front rotors. He was very surprised that with 9,500 miles on it that the brake vibrations were that bad. He also showed me were the driver's side of the van was re-painted. Yes, the dealer will stand by the van and fix the brakes, but I can also opt out of the deal tomorrow morning. I have the remainder of the 60,000 miles warranty on it. Not sure what to do. I just do not want to start trips to the service department with it.
    Joanie
    PS. Did I also mention that the airbag light does not go off at all when the van is on. Carfax came back fine, although I do wonder if it was in an accident.
  • I would not take the van - if it were me. The repaint, the rotors, the air bag light - all add up to a problem vehicle in my opinion. I'd keep looking. Just my $.02
  • arjay1arjay1 Posts: 172
    Why was that low mileage van for sale anyway? Was it someone else's problem? Did the dealer tell you that there had been body work or painting done?
    I agree, this all adds up to a possible problem. I would take it back and start the search again for another unit.
    We have 18,800 miles on our 2002 EX and all is good. We continue to knock on wood, or at least simulated wood plastic overlay!
  • The problem with my radio is not saving my favorite channels. The problem is that my cd player made a fluttering thump noise and then completely shutdown. No power, nothing. Can't use cassette or radio either. I wondered if there was a magical prescription for RESETTING the radio like there is for Hondas, etc.
  • RUN - do not walk! away from any dealer that would sell you a vehicle with a brake condition like that...add in the fact that the air bag indicator light stays on and the van has been repainted on the drivers side...that tells me that there is more to this than meets the eye. Just my opinion!
    Oh, by the way, according to my 2002 Sedona brochure...the front row folding, extendable side table with cupholders was a feature for the EX and not the LX.
  • navyairnavyair Posts: 202
    Sounds like that van has been in an accident. Believe it is immoral, if not illegal for dealer to sell with airbag light on...he knows that means airbag may not deploy properly.

    Typically, the sensor is bad...if there was an offset crash which didn't deploy the bag, that might be enough to screw it up.

    Also, if you DO decide to keep the van, I'd get another mechanic (from somewhere else other than the dealer) to look over the vehicle. Pay attention to the tires, too, as if it was hit, it may show signs of cupping or being out of alignment.
  • As I was silently driving to lunch today, it occurred to me that there must be a way to RESET the radio when there is a failure, and there is!
    There is a microscopic reset button on the upper right hand corner under the small word "reset", which I thought was for the cd eject...dolt! Anyway, all you have to do is push a toothpick type object into the hole and presto...all better. Two things: I wish the owners manual had mentioned it and I wish I had figured it out before I dropped the $35 to the dealer for "resetting" my radio.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,144
    Yeah, but the dealer has a SST (special service tool) to handle these situations professionally.

    In this case the SST is a bent paperclip. Talk about a rip!

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  • I purchased a 2003 Sedona EX in August. I've taken several trips and have experienced great gas mileage. On one trip from Buffalo NY to New Hampshire (984 miles round trip) I averaged 23.2 miles per gallon. Around town, I average 18.

    Recently, I've felt a vibration on the front passenger side. At first I thought it was a tire out of balance - but the vibration disappeared as I drove for 10 minutes or more.

    The vibration always seemed to be prominent when I first started my van. This seemed to indicate a possible engine vibration. I took the van to the dealer and they kept it for 2 days (I got a free loaner). They said the vibration is normal for Kia engines. Sure enough, the loaner engine vibrated too.

    I just couldn't accept this response since the vibration disappeared after driving. So I performed my own test. While driving downhill with the van in neutral, the vibration was present. Another time, with the van OFF and in neutral, the vibration was present.

    It now appears that I have a vibration that is associated with the front end. It is noticeable by everyone that rides with me. I had the opportunity to ride on the passenger side and the vibration was very prominent. The disturbing thing is that the vibration disappears after driving for a short while.

    I'm bringing it back in for service tomorrow (11/19/03). I'll post the results.
  • anyone have any experience with a slight ticking sound, when fully warm? lifters? fuel injectors?
  • We have an '03 sedona lx and we noticed that it had wind noise coming from the driver's door window. Kia tried to fix it 3 times, by changing a seal on the sliding door, and re-adjusting the window. Finally, I decided to look into the problem more myself. I put electrical tape along the bottom of the window on the outside...and the noise went away....took the tape off and the sound came back...so I told Kia about it and they replaced the seal...no more noise! Yay!

    Anyway....just thought I would share..

    Brian
  • That is a fantastic piece of detective work! Good to hear that it was an easy fix!
  • Funny thing is: When the mechanic came out with me for a ride to make sure the problem was fixed, I told him to tell the service manager(the guy I was dealing with) that the problem still wasn't fixed! I had to! :)

    Brian
  • smulveysmulvey Posts: 139
    J- I think you can rotate the tires on the front end from left to right and see if the vibration goes away or moves left.

    the technical term for your problem is a
    "lumpity"

    When your tire heats up the " lumpity" is less noticable.

    Most " lumpitys" get worse hot.

    yours gets better.

    You can move the tire to the rear and hear less of it.

    you can also take the tire to the dealer and have it checked to " out of round".

    Your full size spare tire may be " good".

    Maybe you install your spare tire and drop of the other one for warranty replacement?

    just a thought.
  • Hello! Our 2003 Sedona EX has developed an odd quirk in the last month. Whenever we turn left or right, the bell that normally goes off when the key is left in the ignition will sound a couple of times. At the same time as the latest occurence this morning, the brake light also momentarily came on. I'm assuming this is an electrical issue, and we have the van scheduled to go in to the dealer on Tuesday (regular oil change as well as this problem)... just wondering if anyone else has had a similar problem.
  • t65t65 Posts: 9
    No electrical problem what so ever. You're running low on brake fluid. When the brake pads wear down the fluid level in the master cylinder resevoir lowers as a consequence. The fluid level gets especially low when making a turn thus triggering the alarm and the bell comes on.
    However, the brake light coming on as well could indicate that the pads are really down as well. I advise you to go to your dealer at your earliest and have the wear of the brake pads checked/replaced and some brake fluid added.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    check the brake fluid level yourself. Pop the hood and check the level in the reservoir.
  • pwierpwier Posts: 11
    OK, I took out the third row seats and now I am attempting to put them back in, but I can't get the rear latch to lock into place. I hook the front latch in first like the directions say, but when I lower the rear of the seat into place, the latch does not lock. Any words of advise would help. Thanks Paul.
  • try actually sitting on the seats! If the seats are in their proper location, sitting on them should enable them to lock in place...you should hear the "click" when the seats are properly installed.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    I always slam 'em down pretty hard in order to get the rear portion to latch.
  • If my rear seats are folded when I put them back in, I'll unfold them and pull back to lock them in place.

    Just make sure nothing's slid into the latch area (with kids in the back, you'd be surprised)
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    When I am installing the 3rd row seats in our Sedona, I do the same as integradriver - seats are unfolded (ready for a person to sit in). If I recall, trial and error revealed this as the easier method than trying to install them while folded down.
  • On my 2003 Kia Sedona I have some kind of vibration caused when applying the brakes. I call it a shutter as you can feel it in the van when it happens, and here it a little bit. On the first trip to the dealer, they really kind of beat me around the bush. The service department said they could not find it. So I went with a sales manager, and he beat the heck out of the brakes, even making one of the rear tires screech. So on the return trip to the shop we just talked and drove normal. And sure enough as he was breaking to pull in the dealership it vibrated bad enough I could see my floor board bouncing. And I said now you see it. And he said oh thats only a small vibration. We were probably in the 40s when he hit the brakes. Just prior to this, I just had it on a the interstate on cruse at about 70 and applied the brakes to kick of the cruse and slow gently and I thought the front end was going to explode (tremendous noise and shutter). The first work order for this problem states the front rotors were replaced for customer satisfaction. This took care of the radical higher speed explosion sound. But it still had a shutter when applying the brake pedal. This shutter is not consistent, I don't know if it's a combination of speed and pressure applied, but I think so. It seems to happen when normal driving not looking for it. On the second trip to the service department the dealer says replaced rear shoes and re surfaced rear drums, shoes and drums were out of phase. Now I still have a shutter that comes and goes depending on braking. Plus I now have something that sounds loose in the front when going over bumps or driving in the yard. I hear this thumping like they have loosened something up to take up the shutter. I'm scheduled to take this to the dealer again this coming Wednesday December 31 2003.

     This van has less than 5000 miles on it.

     IN ALL occurrences the shutter (vibration) stops when the brake pedal is released.

     Is this a common problem with this vehicle?
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