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Kia Sedona problems

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  • jaywolfjaywolf Posts: 11
    Bluedevils comment is true, "But what's to say the replacement for your Sedona won't be a fire risk, either?" From my personal experience...KIA IS A HORRIBLE COMPANY! They do not stand behind their vehicles or 10 year warranty. True, they are not building Sedona's to catch on fire on purpose...yet their answer is "Inconclusive" therefore "Not" our responsibility. With today's technology I find it hard to be inconclusive. But I understand Kia's reasoning...let us screw the innocent consumer! Who cares if a handful of Sedona's catch on fire. Fires burn evidence...so...therefore we "Kia" are free and clear. So what's a few disgruntled consumers...what can they do to the mighty Kia? Well saabturboid if you never buy Kia again...lets let Kia worry about that because obviously they are not worried about Sedona's that catch on fire.
  • jaywolfjaywolf Posts: 11
    we have/had a 2003 EX with 21,000 miles on it. The fire happened on a warm,rainy spring day. The van was parked close to an hour when the fire started. That day the CD player was used along with the wipers. I had no problems with the van, in truth, I loved my sedona. I thought I was driving an upscale cheap car by owning the EX. But now my opinion of the Sedona went from love to FEAR! Be afraid of Kia! I was just informed that my van was so badly burned that Kia is not responsible. Their inspector found the source of the fire to be inconclusive... therefore Kia will not own up to it. Be afraid, be very afraid... Kia recalls rear bearings because of 4 warranty claims, yet on this sight #584, #657, and #685 all have had fires that started in the steering area while parked. But remember, Kia is not responsible. I repeat be afraid!
  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    Well, if you are that "afraid"...do something about it. Consumer protection agency,BBB, whoever. Kia won't do anything unless they start to feel some pressure. A lawsuit is usually a good start. If the departed Kias remains are still available, hire a private mechanic to look at it.Who knows...YOU may save some lives...if the facts are on your side.
  • kiatechkiatech Posts: 38
    Okay,Seems like everyone is on the bashing bandwagon,from the last few post I have read. If you really dislike the car or any car for that matter,the best thing that I think alot of people would suggest is either start walking or get a bike. But then again those two things have risks in of thereself's. Now that I have either made a few mad or at least gotten your attention lets move on and address some of the above mentioned issues.

    1.I to the best of my memory never mentioned anything about the face plate around the radio getting hot because of usage. Lets take a sec and have a look at the van you own and also lets use a few terms that I am sure you know. Your van is one of the best examples of what a greenhouse effect is and what it can do. It has 8 peices of glasss attached to it and is one of the best generators of heat you could ever find. Of course things are going to get hot. Look at the windshield. It heats the dash and all of its components very well. The faceplate's leading upper edge is in contact with the sun in just about every situation.
    2. I have yet to see a single van brought into the dealership that has caught fire. I am not calling anyone a lier by any means. I have seen burned harness's before and damage as a result of a fire but it was created by the owners own ignorance. Lets explain that last comment for a minute. The power outlets are designed for very simple electrical things to be used. It is not meant to have a 5 pigtail adaptor hanging from it with 5 things that draw enough amps to make your local power company send you a bill. I have seen aftermarket add-ons cause more issues also. In my opinion,if it isnt a option from the manufacture,dont get it. Wiring harness's do not like things added to them that werent suppose to be there in the first place.

    3. The updated alternator is offered for one reason only. During idle the alt would not charge because it wasnt turning fast enough because the pully is to big,in some cases. Engine's engine compartment heat also plays a role in it also. That is why the issue is seen more in the summer months. It does not have a single thing to do with the electrical fire issues that people are chatting about.
  • kiatechkiatech Posts: 38
    Laptops,dont ya hate them,lol.

    The updated alt just has a smaller pully on it so that it will charge at idle. Thats it. Nothing special. I have mentioned how to complain about getting the updated version under warranty only so I will not go through that again.

    4. Rust around the liftgate or anywhere for that matter. If its under warranty it should be addressed without having to call anyone. If the dealership has a bodyshop,then they can fix it or have it subletted out to a bodyshop for repair. It isnt rocket science. If you arent satisfied call kia consumer affairs or ask to speak the DPSM,when he comes back to the dealership. He visits once a month.

    5. The warranty. Its a great warranty and if there is a issue,I am sure you arent telling use all the story. This is how the drivetrain warranty works basically. It is YOUR job to maintain YOUR car,not kia. If you dont do the maintaince on your vehicle as described in the owners manual and something goes wrong,its on you as the owner,not kia .Dont come in and complain the the motor has blown up because you as the owner didnt change the oil. I have seen it time and time again. The worse case was 32k on the engine and it still had the assembly line oil filter on it. Transmissions work in the same way,if you dont maintain it and something goes wrong,its not kia's fault,its YOURS. Every manufacture just about plays by the same rules as far as maintance goes. Do what you know your suppose to do when it comes to taking care of your vehicle and when a issue comes up chances are it will be taken care of without a single frown.

    5. Yes there is a recall on the rearwheel bearings. The reason is as follows. Some of the bearings just werent packed with enough grease in them and or moister had gotten in the bearing creating rust and in turn both situations would cause the bearings to begin to roar after wear began to take place. I have seen roaring bearings but have never seen a single wheel locked up because of bearing failure.

    Last but not least. I am just trying to shead some light on the situations that are above mentioned by people. Car is a car is a car .Everyone is going to have issues regardless of the manufacture. Some will freak out about them and others will take them in stride. if you think the high end dollar cars dont have issues your sadly mistaken. No car isperfect nor will it ever be.

    Sincerely
    Kiatech
  • saabturboidsaabturboid Posts: 178
    Hey Kiatech,

    This is not a situation to make light of. This isn't just a mechanical failure that can be an inconvenience; people can die. I don't think anyone here is saying that all Kia Sedona's are fire death traps. We just want to know why three members of this list have had their Sedona's burn, and all similarly I might add. It seems they all burned after being driven and then parked. Imagine if a van started on fire in an attached garage after it was parked and them proceeded to burn someones house down.

    If Kia stood up and took responsibility and admitted a certain component was defective in these vans, and then took the next logical step of a recall to inspect and/or replace said defective part, then I would keep my Sedona and have a lot more respect for the company. But, to claim the fire(s) are not their responsibility and wash their hands of the situation tells me they are more concerned about their public image than the safety of people riding in their vehicles.

    For those with burned Sedonas, I have a question. Were all of them '03s? Perhaps a certain batch of what ever component is causing this was bad? This may be limited to a certain production run that could easily be fixed/ replaced by Kia. The rest of us may be worrying for nothing, but for our own safety as long as Kia refuses to admit anything is wrong we can only assume the worst.

    Chad
  • kiatechkiatech Posts: 38
    Three members in this forum have made the complaint according to what you just posted. Over 50 thousand of these vans have been sold in the USA alone. I never said that there was or wasnt a issue. I just made the statement of what I had seen. I think you are taking the wrong approach to my statements. I did say that all the issues I had seen were customer created. Not manufactured created. I can only tell you what I have seen and I will tell the truth about it also. If I knew there was a issue,after what i have posted in here you dont think I would let the forums know. I would.
    What I would suggest is the ones that did have the issue,post the dealership that the van was taken too.Post the pictures. Like I said,I have never seen one that has burned If the vans are burning to the ground I really do find it hard to beleive that no action is being taken. I for one would want it looked at.
    Sincerely
    Kiatech
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    It is disappointing to me, but not surprising, that Kia is not admitting fault. It is much tougher, in today's litigious society, for a manufacturer to admit fault for a SERIOUS situation such as a fire hazard than to admit fault for something more minor like a wheel bearing problem - especially when no reports of injury have been received regarding the minor problem (I don't know if that's the case with the wheel bearing issue; I'm just trying to make a general point).

    If Kia came right out and admitted the fire hazard, they would have some serious lawsuits on their hands.

    To me, that's what it boils down to-- in today's society, the manufacturer feels it cannot afford to open such a large and potentially damaging can of worms - i.e., fire hazard. So they play dumb and say the cause of the fire was inconclusive.

    Folks, if this is happening to you - you need to take legal action. There's no other way to go about it. Hire an attorney. Get advice on how to proceed, i.e. refute the dealer's/Kia's claim that the cause was inconclusive. Get to the bottom of it.
  • ksex03ksex03 Posts: 2
    Hi All,
    I just found the rust around my gas tank where the gas tank cap screws in.
    My dealer tells me that it's o.k. to have rust around it and it won't hurt the van.
    It this true? Is it o.k. to have rust go into the gas tank like the dealer is saying?
    Did anyone have this issue?
  • monty2222monty2222 Posts: 48
    I have a 2004 with 10,500 miles on it. Had it in about a month ago for road noise, a hum like tire noise. They ended up replacing the front right stub drive axle, and right rear hub bearing. That fixed it. They also addressed a check engine light which said Misfire in cylinder 5 (it did idle a little rough for a while).They replaced that spark plug. Now for the last few weeks I am seeing increased hesitation when I accelerate from a stop. When I hit the gas it either just bogs down for a few seconds and takes off, or bucks, then bogs down a couple cycles then takes off. This is a hazard pulling into traffic. Of course I took it to the dealer and it did this all the way there. But when they test drove it, it was fine. I re-checked and it was fine (no check engine light ever on this). I drove home and of course when I stopped at a light there, it did it again, and still does. I'm sure it has uneven acceleration even at speed, but it's just hard to notice, plus it will downshift which distracts from noticing the hesitation. Anybody else have this? I am suspecting a fuel system problem?
  • saabturboidsaabturboid Posts: 178
    Yesterday I read an article on fire problems that apparently Ford is having with some of their trucks/SUVs. Apparently in that case Ford has tracked it down to a cruise control switch that can malfunction. Even Ford has not recalled all vehicles with this switch, but only a few.

    Another statistic mentioned in the article surprised me. It said there are 100,000 non-accident related automotive fires every year. It didn't say whether that was just in the U.S., or world wide, but either case that is an astounding number.

    All of this has me a little unnerved and not sure what to think. In any case I am still going to sell my Sedona but until then it will be parked in my driveway and not in my garage just in case.

    Chad
  • kiatechkiatech Posts: 38
    Production date of your vehicle .It can be found in the drivers door jam.
  • jaywolfjaywolf Posts: 11
    Kiatech... Yes we all know that one of Kia's selling points is a 10 year "powertrain" warranty, what about the Bumper to Bumper? Doesn't 21,000 miles and 15 months old fall under "Warranty"? Call me crazy, but I didn't think steering columns were one of your normal replaceable parts. Oh, I forgot, Kia can't be worried about defective parts that cause fires, because they can hide behind "inconclusive, therefore not our responsibility". My insurance company settled this in a blink of an eye. Why? Because their independent inspector found the fire source to be an electrical defect in the steering column. I was called by "Kevin" out of the New Jersey office first thing on Monday after the fire on a Friday. I was still is shock and pretty much cried during the interview. He point blank asked me what I wanted out of this in the end. He also informed my insurance company that they were looking to give me a replacement vehicle. Sorry but, you couldn't pay me to place my four kids into a Sedona again. I settled with insurance. In the end, I will get my deductible back. The only issue I have is the rental. Kia should pay for it. But silly me, they are not responsible for flames shooting out of the steering wheel area. I guess it must have been a "Gremlin". Hey Kiatech, next Sedona you service, maybe you should put in a trap, you may make history by catching a gremlin. (At least I didn't lose my sense of humor, only money and security!)
  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    Why you jumping all over kiatech? All he did was give information and his experience on the matter. By all means be mad at Kia...but take it easy on poor ole Kiatech. Seems like he is just trying to help you folks out.
  • veramaverama Posts: 2
    We got our 2005 Sedona in february 2005. It was been a great van, until recently. My wife told me that sometimes (maybe 2) when she turned it on, the engine would be accelerated and the Steering wheel was to hard to move. She turned it off and back on and everything was ok. We called the dealer and they told us if it happens again to take there. It didn't happen until a cuople of days ago, where because of the acceleration and the hard steering wheel she hit another car. It is a very dangerous problems since it could have been on the hwy or someone could have been hurt.
    Has anyone had a similar problem with their Sedona's. It is ramdom and very hard to reproduce. We need to know how many out there could be having similar issues.
    Thanks
  • monty2222monty2222 Posts: 48
    Production Date 2/04, I bought it 8/04. Hope this helps.
  • mvegasmvegas Posts: 1
    av@meetingcontact [av@meetingcontact.com]

    Go ahead and open the attached e-mail if you want to see photos of the results
    of the dashboard damage
  • jaywolfjaywolf Posts: 11
    Spectraman,

    A picture is worth a thousand words... My Sedona Fire is "real"
    go to .... http://community.webshots.com/user/jaywolf8

    It took this long to post the photos, because of my 03 Sedona I am out thousands, and I was looking for a way to post them for free. Thank god for webshots!

    As far as your comment, "It will be interesting to see where all of this heads... if anywhere." If you own a Sedona and have children, you should "head " to your nearest non-Kia dealer and get a minivan that doesn't catch on fire while parked.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    holy cow. nice photos. just an fyi, some of your descriptions were truncated - you may want to go back and update them.

    i am surprised at how much i was affected emotionally by your pictures.

    hearing people talk about how their sedonas caught fire, even though i'm a sedona owner, somehow it was just talk and did not seem that serious. seeing the pictures, i had this almost shaky feeling come over me.

    very sorry for the damage to your child's emotions and to the vehicle. hopefully owners can make enough noise to get kia to acknowledge the problem and correct whatever may be causing it.

    please keep us informed of your insurance company's progress with kia.
  • Claire@EdmundsClaire@Edmunds Chicago areaPosts: 968
    Scary pictures. As a few members mentioned before, I do hope you've contacted the nhtsa about this: https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/

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