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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    the route-driver. The xA would fit his bill very nicely. I'm still considering an xA, or a Kia Spectra5, or a Kia Sportage 2WD FWD 5-speed. 5-speed stick in each and every rig I get from here on out, actually. I'll definitely post in here what I eventually decide to do.

    I followed a great tip on windshield wiper squirter operation. Mine were plugged and not squirting bug juice correctly onto my windshield, so I went online to try and get some answers. Turns out a simple pin needle cleans them out fairly well. They can get wax build-up that plugs them up. At least it opened up one of mine well and I can squirt bug juice happily onto my windshield again! Whoo-hoo! ;)

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • not2savvynot2savvy Posts: 1
    My ex-wife is seriously into buying an xA. She was told she has an option to upgrade to 17 inch wheels from 15 inch wneels? Do you, or anyone out there, have comments on "upgrading" to 17 inch wheels? Particularly interested in safety, handling, comfort. thanks for your comments in advance.
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    It's not in any way, shape or form an "upgrade." It's purely stylistics. You won't have enough rubber to really protect the rims. I had the stock 15" wheels on my former xA and the car handled better than almost any other cars I had owned before (cars like the Neon and Focus ZX3). Look at the pricing on 17" inch wheels and tires. This is only an upgrade to the dealer's profit.

    Keep in mind that ultra low profile tires on a car designed for them, like a BMW 3 series, are not the same as such tires on a subcompact commuter car. This is a Scion xA, not a Ford Focus SVT, or a Cobalt SS, or a Neon SRT; the suspension on the xA is not set up to take advantage of racing tires/wheels, and the downside - easy rim damage - isn't worth it.

    Some newspapers (NY Times) and auto press has also reported on the dangers of heavier rims (larger rims) on cars - the suspension may break, breaking is not as effective.

    If you really want to upgrade, buy the car with stock tires and wheels then order a set of 16" rims with tires from Tirerack.com - you'll get much better pricing, a better choice of tires, better balancing (Hunter Road Force), and can choose from true lightweight rims like Kosei; weights on rims can vary from 13 pounds for ultralight to 20 pounds, which is heavier than stock steel wheels.

    Scion.com only offers 15" alloy wheels, I believe. Go there and try "build your scion" then click on "wheels" at the top. What the dealer is offering you is pure aftermarket.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    an xA's wheel size, micweb. Spoken from one who has owned and enjoyed their xA already. I was not comfortable with the idea of "upgrading" to 17" wheels on a small car with a short wheelbase like the xA. Also you would be asking for poor handling, rim damage and also very probable miscalculations from your xA's odometer because of the wheel size to wheelbase and FWD dynamics going on. Some simple physics state that the move is not a smart one for the xA.

    I can't wait for the RS 3.0 to come out! Still driving and enjoying my '01 Sportage 4x4 and watching the xA world go around in the meantime. :D

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    1.0

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    or 2.0

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    Now that is taking the jelly bean or the egg and styling it up! Which one would you choose?

    The angle of the 2.0 picture makes the car look bigger than the 1.0, sorta, eh?

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • muffin_manmuffin_man Posts: 865
    the red paint on the 1.0 really made the car stand out - it was a very nice color. The blue 2.0 looks like just another blue car - very ordinary. (and I like blue)
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    it shows how much snap (a lot) alloys give this car. It is too bad they can't figure out a way to make alloys standard, maybe bump up the price a couple of hundred $$.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,144
    Are you just looking for opinion on color?

    I see VERY little difference in these 2 pics aside from color, wheels, foglights, and a slightly larger grille on the blue one.

    By the way, i prefer the red.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    you like the best, the RS 1.0 in Absolutely Red, or the RS 2.0 in Blue Streak Mica. I like them both, though the red gets the slight nod because it just looks so...hot! They picked a great shade of red for the 1.0 IMO.

    Yeah, the alloys would be a must for me if I pulled the trigger on an xA. I would want to see the RS 2.0 in person to get the true affect of that blue color in the daylight. Both rigs have great wheels, I like them both. The RS 2.0 does have a metallic paint finish and I love metallic paint jobs. The interior special lights both rigs have are not a big deal to me, but I do love the foglights against the blue paint, the crystal against solid look that is very cool.

    I remain very interested in either one of these Scion's.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • doohickiedoohickie Posts: 949
    The color of my next car is going to be A.B.R. (anything but red)! My Ford Aspire is red, and after ten years I want something different.

    As for the discussion about 17 inch wheels a few posts back: I test drove a Scion xA with the lowered springs and 17 inch wheels and it totally put me off the xA. The ride was so harsh, it was like the Princess and the Pea; you could feel every imperfection in the road. Yesterday I noticed they had a different xA out there- one with stock wheels. It was still a little harsher than the other cars I drove, but was in the pack with them... and had a nice sporty feel. For a tall car, it cornered nice; much better than, say, the Aveo, which leans quite a bit.

    I had pretty much dismissed the xA as a reasonable option with the 17's, but after driving it with the stock 15's, it moved back up on my list; it's neck-and-neck between the xA and the Suzuki Reno. I like the Reno a lot based on driving impression, but it's a Suzuki made by Daewoo and gets almost 10 mpg less than the xA (which tranlates to almost $30/month in gas). And the two cars are virtually the same price, at least online. From what I hear, Scion dealers don't haggle, but the Suzuki dealer may come down, especially after the 06s arrive. If I can talk them down enough, it will be the Reno, I think; otherwise, the xA is a decent alternative. I just wish it was a little bigger.
  • tundradudetundradude Posts: 588
    Its going to be interesting if Toyota releases a Echo HB (or whatever they name it)to compete with the xA, because the Echo will be slighlty bigger
  • doohickiedoohickie Posts: 949
    The salesman said the Toyota Echo is done and they're not getting any more. Ever. (Don't know about a replacement.)
  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    Wrong! The new Echo hatch is 150.6" long, still a bit shorter than the xA. It will also be lighter (heaviest version is 2,385 lbs.). I have posted most of the specs on the "2006 Echo" Forum if you are interested. The figures are for the Canadian Echo, but are almost identical to the JDM Vitz.
  • tundradudetundradude Posts: 588
    I was in Montreal about two weeks ago, and I saw Echo HB's running around everywhere. Thats interesting that it is shorter then the xA or xB. I thought it was a much nicer alternative to the Echo Sedan. But being 14 inches shorter is a big difference. Thats even smaller than a MR2. I know having one of these in Montreal would be much nicer than my Tundra I had to park there. That was an experience.
  • chrisducatichrisducati Posts: 394
    I asked the same thing as was told that the Echo was removed for the US line up because of lack of sales. So, Toyota should have had the hatchback here the whole time. I hope the Yaris comes to the States.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    Echo arrives next summer in the United States - not sure what Canada is getting. If it follows the general rule of car model updates, it will be bigger, and might outsize the xA at that point. Of course, who knows what the future holds for the xA. And I figure they might not call the next model "Echo" in the U.S. due to its loud and unceremonious crash in the marketplace when it was here before.

    They will bring the hatch here next time, I bet. By then a direct competitor will have emerged - the Fit. Not to mention the micro-Nissan that is coming within two years.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    Check my posting on the 2006 Echo thread for the information on the Canadian Hatchback. It is smaller than the current xA, but larger than the current HB. In Canada it will continue to be the "Echo" as it is one of the top 10 selling cars - I have the latest spec sheet for the 2006.

    Ross
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    the car I am referring to will debut next summer as a 2007 model.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    for looks at the small car Toyota future, though. Yaris or Echo or xA or whatever the Echo-replacement will be called in the U.S. in 2006, you'll find pictures in that thread that will resemble what you're gonna see here next year. I've added the 2006 Toyota Echo to my Edmund's searches now and have benefited from them.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

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