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Pontiac Vibe Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • skim1114skim1114 Posts: 6
    That was very helpful. I have been reading bits about the toyota engine so that makes me feel a little better.

    The incentives are the best for the cars I am looking at which is a huge bonus. I test drove an automatic, but I want a manual, so I will need to test drive that. I drove the Matrix Manual which was horrible because you had to lift your heel off the ground to work with the clutch, very tiring...so I am hoping the Vibe isn't like this becasue everything else I have been sold on.

    Any word on the April incentives and how those compare to last months?

    Thanks.
    S
  • the 5 speed manual with the vibe is the same as the matrix, i found the clutch pretty tiring too from the seat position, and i have size 11 feet so i always felt scared i was going to mash the brake on accident when pushing in the clutch. i oped for the auto which is more then adequate.
  • charlotte7charlotte7 Posts: 144
    Those of you who have the GM Card and are talking about using it in conjunction with buying your Vibe, how are you getting more than $1000 off using it? One of the previous posters said that he'd used over $2000 in GM Cash last month applied towards his Vibe, and I only see $1000 being eligible to be applied. Am I missing something? My mother has about $2800 on her GM Card and would like to use as much of it as she can.

    My parents are thinking about buying a base, manual Vibe with the power group and body colour appearance package. They live in rural Michigan, and have been quoted $15,000 out the door for this car. My feeling is that the dealership could go lower. What do you think? They are not as Internet-savvy as some and I'd like to help them avoid being taken.
  • unknownunknown Posts: 5
    Charlotte7,
    There are at least 2 versions of the GM card. So it will depend on which version your mother has. The original "GM Card" has a limit of $500 earnings per year times 7 years. So you can apply up to $3500 towards most any GM vehicle...there are a few exceptions.

    They later came out with something called "Todays GM Card". It has no limit on how much you can accrue in any given year BUT there is a restriction on how much you can apply to any given purchase.

    The Vibe your parents are considering is equipped like the one we just purchased. I'm not sure if their dealer quote is factoring in their GM Card rebate or not. If they are able to apply their full $2800 in GM card rebate, they should be able to purchase for about $12,000 out the door...depending on taxes and fees in Michigan.

    I actually purchased my Vibe on April 2. I was able to apply $2906 in GM card rebates in addition to the $3500 worth of other rebates GM was offering.(see my prior post, # 97 above)

    I did not negotiate at all. We got the internet quote and jumped on it. We may have actually been able to get it a little lower. No way to know for sure. I was pleased with the quote so we did not push the issue. We were the only customers in the showroom and the dealer seemed desperate to sell cars. He practically begged me to send him any referrals that I could.

    As far as being internet savvy...that should not be a problem. All I did was use GM's BuyPower website to locate the car I wanted. I requested a quote, recieved it via e-mail that evening. We went the next morning and purchased the Vibe. Very painless.

    Good luck.
    Steve
  • skim1114skim1114 Posts: 6
    I've been reading on this post and I see a number of different rebates people have been getting. The only thing offical I see is the $2000 cash back. Are there other little things that the average person may be eligible for?

    I also have someone who works at GM who can get me the GM supplier cost, "GM in the driveway". Does anyone know what the Vibe's cost is on this?

    Also, what are your experiences on prices for the GT version?

    Thanks
  • unknownunknown Posts: 5
    Skim1114,
    Rebates...you can ask your local dealer. They should be more than willing to provide you with all that is available. When I contacted my dealer the only thing shown on GM's website was $1500 plus $500 bonus cash. Dealer told me of rebates I had never heard of, totaling $3500 on my Vibe purchase. The rebates change frequently and may apply only to certain models or even only to old inventory. It doesn't cost to inquire.

    I did read in the last few days that GM is going to revive the "Hot Button" promo. The article I read states that 1000 people will win a new car, the others will receive $1,000 bonus cash to be applied toward the purchase or lease of a new 2004 or 2005 GM car or truck. The bonus cash offer runs from April 5 to May 31.

    As far as the GM supplier cost, you'll have to price it both ways. You may find that you can do better without using that program. I recall reading somewhere that I could not use the Supplier discount in conjuction with my GM Card rebate. Maybe someone else can give you feedback as to their experiences using that program.

    You should be able to find attractive pricing on the GT...just depends on how aggressive you want to be. The dealer I had seemed very motivated to sell anything.

    Have you found a dealer with a GT equipped the way you want it???

    Good luck.
    Steve
  • brood1213brood1213 Posts: 27
    If you use GM in the Driveway you can use any GM card with this promotion. If you use the Supplier Discount Program you can only use the extended family card.

    Even though GM in the Driveway is "Supplier pricing" it is not the Supplier program.
  • hillflahillfla Posts: 90
    I am currently in negotiations with the internet manager at my local dealer for an AWD Vibe.

    Here are the vehicle stats:
    AWD
    Moons and Tunes
    Side air bags
    Power group
    Monotone paint
    MSRP = $23775

    The price I was quoted: $19490 (dealer claims that is invoice minus $3000 in rebates) They will have to go about 90 miles away to get the vehicle
    (there are almost no AWD with side air bags available - only 2 in a 200-mile radius around here! St Louis area)

    When I did my own calculations compared to her offer, I came up with an additional $349 above invoice in the pricing. When I asked her about it - she said that was "advertising fees". She also claimed that Edmunds and KBB (where I got my invoice pricing) are wrong and that the dealer has to show me the right invoice numbers.

    My question is - are people usually successful in negotiating advertising fees? Also - is the $19490 a good price? And finally - are Edmunds and KBB correct? (it is interesting to note that Edmunds and KBB were off by $535 from eachother for same vehicle). I used KBB numbers for my calcuations since their MSRP came out to the same as the sticker while Edmunds did not. (Edmunds is higher) I think Edmunds does not minus out the package discounts.

    Sorry for the long-ish post and thanks for any and all help!
  • j1466j1466 Posts: 1
    I got my Vibe GM Certificate number from my mother who is a GM factory nurse, who says the number is for a "GM in the Driveway" promotion. The dealer has told me that GMS pricing is not available with GM card or Conquest bonuses. Does anyone know for sure that this is incorrect? Not that dealers would ever give misinformation, of coarse :) TIA, Jason

    In reply to the previous poster about pricing, I noticed that most dealers do not want to sell at invoice, but $100 over invoice seems to be common. If your dealer has to spend money to get a car, then they will want to pass that on in some fashion, especially if it gets you extra rebate (seems fair to me). I elected to order my new Vibe rather than pay $300 to get one from a far away State having extra options (costing even more) I did not want.
  • brood1213brood1213 Posts: 27
    If you use the GM in the Driveway you can use any GM Card.

    If you use the GMS pricing you can only use the extended family card. Being that it is your mother I think that you qualify for the GMS pricing.
  • hillflahillfla Posts: 90
    Well, last Sat I purchased my new Moonstone-colored Vibe. Here's the info:
    AWD
    power group
    moon and tunes
    side airbags
    monotone paint

    Rebates:
    hot button = $1000
    conquest = $1000
    bonus cash = $1000 (I brought my own financing so I got the extra cash instead)
    military = $500
    GM card = $228

    I paid $18800 out the door - that was for the vehicle only (here in Missouri we have to take our title to the license office and pay taxes and tags ourselves).
    It turned out to be about $250 over invoice, due to an "advertising fee" that I could not negotiate away, plus they had to go get the car from a town about 90 miles from here. They waived the dealer $99 processing fee.

    Overall I feel I got a decent deal. I could have done a little better but I hate to haggle and this offer means I pay less than $350 a month so that makes me plenty happy!
  • bluewolfbluewolf Posts: 101
    Anybody seeing great deals out of this promotion? Is $1000 Hotbutton still going?

    Edmunds just shows $1000 customer cash. Wondering if I can get GM Employee Pricing minus these incentives.

    The hard part is finding one with side airbags, almost nonexistent around here.
  • maximummaximum Posts: 1
    I bought a 2005 Vibe with the "Employee discount for everyone" promotion. They also gave $2,000 in rebates/incentives on top of that. I looked up the TMV pricing for the same car with all the same options (plus I got window tinting and pin stripes) and found we paid almost $2K less than the TMV. :)

    Too bad the buying experience wasn't as nice as the price. The dealership tried to get us to sign a contract for more than the agreed price (twice) and then tried to get us to pay extra for the tinting and pin striping, even though it was supposed to be included. Then they lied about the mileage on the odometer -- we didn't notice before taking possession. :mad: Then they had the nerve to ask us to only check "completely satisfied" on the questions of their customer survey. :confuse:

    Moral of the story: Say away from Midway Auto in Phoenix, AZ!
  • gdinmichgdinmich Posts: 1
    Just priced a 2005 Vibe. Dealer quoted employee price less a $1,000 rebate.

    Since this is end of year, one would think there would be some additonal end of year price reductions. It seems you could have actually gotten this car cheaper in March timeframe because of all the addional rebates.
  • boatsboats Posts: 19
    and added a "conquest" rebate of $1000... FWD, auto base Vibe with leather, power group, monotone, antilock brakes... sticker $20,940... purchased for $16,949 plus TT&L/doc fee

    seems like a good deal, dealer thru in window tint. Worked with Phillips Mazda in So. Cal. - very easy-going/low pressure... I'm happy with my purchase!
  • civic4civic4 Posts: 33
    My concerns are;

    1) Hearing about the paint job quality of the Vibe.

    2) We want AWD but it seems the engine offered with this feature should have more pick up and go than the base model, albeit, it would take away from the gas mileage we have noticed is above average with this model.

    3) We like the looks of the Vibe and it is a Toyota through and through as evident by it's stellar marks in Consumers' reports reliabilityratings and I believe it is even a recommended car in its class., But as stated before, is it worth going with the Matrix considering the problems with the exterior paint job quality?

    4)We would like the leather option, but I do not see heated seats, an option very nice to have with leather, especially in the North East US.

    5)Every automobile gets a change every now and then, I would expect there will be a big change in engine and styling with the Vibe and Matrix comming up soon, as they have not really evolved much from their first introduction, how far away are we from such a major change?

    6) What gas mileage can I truthfully expect from the Vibe w/ AWD? Is it close or accurate as its sticker information?

    Thanks in advance to anyone who takes a stab at my concerns. Also, what would you think would be a good negotiated price for the following vehicle?

    MANUFACTURER'S SUGGESTED RETAIL PRICE
    STANDARD VEHICLE PRICE*: $20,455.00

    MOON AND TUNES VALUE PACKAGE
    SUNROOF, POWER
    (DELETES DUAL READING LAMPS)
    200 WATT PREMIUM AUDIO SYS.
    INTEGRATED SUBWOOFER
    PACKAGE SAVINGS $300
    $1,140.00
    LEATHER SEATING SURFACES
    $700.00
    4.24 AXLE RATIO
    NO CHARGE
    TOTAL PACKAGE SAVINGS
    $-600.00
    PREMIUM MONOTONE APPEARANCE PKG
    $325.00
    POWER GROUP VALUE PACKAGE
    REMOTE KEYLESS ENTRY
    PROGRAMMABLE POWER DOOR LOCKS
    WINDOWS, POWER
    CRUISE CONTROL
    PACKAGE SAVINGS $300
    $1,150.00
    IN-DASH 6-DISC CHANGER
    $325.00
    AIRBAGS, SIDE IMPACT-FRT & SIDE
    CURTAIN
    $745.00
    TOTAL OPTIONS: $3,785.00
    TOTAL VEHICLE & OPTIONS: $24,240.00
    DESTINATION CHARGE: $560.00

    TOTAL VEHICLE PRICE*: $24,800.00
    STANDARD EQUIPMENT:
    Items featured below are included at NO EXTRA CHARGE in the standard vehicle price shown above.
    *** MECHANICAL ***
    1.8L DOHC VVT-I ENGINE
    ALL WHEEL DRIVE SYSTEM
    TRANSMISSION, 4 SPEED AUTO.
    4-WHEEL INDEPENDENT DOUBLE WISHBONE SUSPENSION

    *** SAFETY & SECURITY ***
    DUAL FRONTAL AIR BAGS
    4-WHEEL ANTILOCK BRAKE SYS. PWR. FRT DISC/RR DRUM BRAKES
    SAFETY BELT-LAP SHOULDER/F&R
    DAYTIME RUNNING LAMPS
    REAR DOOR SECURITY LOCKS

    *** EXTERIOR ***
    DUAL OUTSIDE POWER MIRRORS
    ROOF RACK
    16" BOLT-ON WHEEL COVERS
    P205/55R16 ALL SEASON TIRES
    SOLAR RAY LIGHT TINTED GLASS
    FOG LAMPS, FRONT, INTEGRAL
    REAR WINDOW WIPER & DEFOGGER

    *** INTERIOR ***
    AIR CONDITIONING, FRT MANUAL
    RADIO, AM/FM STEREO W/CD EQUALIZER & RDS
    TILT STEERING WHEEL
    2 PRONG HSEHLD STYLE OUTLET
    CENTER CONSOLE W/CELL PHONE HOLDER
    MANUAL DRVR SEAT HEIGHT ADJ.
    SEATS, 60/40 FOLD-FLAT REAR
    SEAT,FOLD-FLAT FRT PASSENGER
    CARGO TRACK SYS. W/TIE DOWNS

    Thanks Again
  • We looked at a Pontiac Vibe today.

    It was base model, FWD, with automatic transmission and the power group value package. It did not have the monotone package. It is a two-tone.

    The dealer quoted us a price of:

    $19,390.00, then an employee discount of $1,773.85, which dropped the price down to $17,616.15.

    Then he took off $1,000 for the cash rebate, $1,000 for the conquest rebate, and an additional $200 discount, to bring the price down to $15,416.15 (before tax and title fees).

    I am wondering if this is a good deal.

    Thanks for any help anyone can give us. It has been awhile since we bought a new car.

    Kris
  • hillflahillfla Posts: 90
    I own a 2005 Vibe AWD, monotone paint, moons and tunes and power options. (no leather seats). I live in St Louis and I've had it since Apr and there is just over 4000 miles on it, so let me give you my inital thoughts and observations.

    1) I have been tracking the mileage religiously. My average to date is 26.5 mpg. I've had a high of 28.8 and a low of 23.6 (per tank mileage). I drive about 50/50 city/highway. Seeing as how it is a new car and I can only expect the mileage to get better as the engine breaks in - I am very impressed with the mileage. I love not paying over $20 a tank to fill up! (although with the price hike that has gone up some!). The tank is very small, I usually only put about 10 gallons to fill it back to full when it hits empty.

    2) I think the vehicle has plenty of power as well. Yes, merging on to freeways you have to mash the pedal to the floor and make the Vibe downshift, but once it does that I can usually get the car up to about 50-55 mph before my merge lane ends. I've had four adults in the car and the pickup was not noticably depreciated. I love driving this car around town, its small enough to fit in about any parking spot and it is nimble on the streets.

    3) I have not had any paint problems but then this car is only 4 months old. I plan on waxing often and keeping it clean especially in winter with the snow and salt.

    I hope my observations help you. It's still a new car so I don't have much info to give you but I don't think you would be unhappy with the AWD. And to me the peace of mind is much worth it.

    Happy shopping!
  • I can't speak to the price as I live in Canada but I think you well be very happy with the vehicle. I have not heard anything up here about paint peeling problems. I purchased the base model with a automatic and power package. I did not bother with the all wheel drive as it is not true all wheel drive. With a good set of winter tires fwd will do just fine, and less things to go wrong. Vibes don't come with heated seats so you may want to rethink the leather seats. Leather can be awfully cold in the winter.
    With respect to gas mileage the AWD should be almost as good as the FWD model and mine seems to be living up to the advertised ratings. AWD Vibes only use AWD when it detects slipping, otherwise it is just running like a FWD model, except it is a little heavier. If you want true all wheel drive in this price range you might want to consider a subaru.
    I don't think the Vibe is due for a model change for a couple of years based on the sites I've visited.
    All and all it is a great little wagon, you won't be disappointed :)
  • nortsr1nortsr1 Posts: 1,060
    The employee discount porice, less the $1000.00 rebate, less the $1000.00 conquest incentive is about the best anyone can do...you might be able to get it for less...but...I doubt it....there is not much dealer profit on the Vibe. You can also use your GM points if you have any!!!!
  • Is 117 correct? What is the basis for your statement that there's not much profit on the Vibe?
    It seems like many of the posters are getting about the same deal, the employee discount price minus the $1000 rebate minus the $1000 conquest incentive if you own a non-GM car.
    But what is the source of the employee discount price? Is it all from the manufacturer or does the dealer eat some of the discount off sticker price?
    If the employee discount price does come from the manufacturer alone, the dealer still gets a healthy profit - the difference between sticker and invoice, which is over $1000, plus their markup on all their options, plus their "holdback," which the manufacturer refunds to the dealer at the end of the quarter or year.
  • vibe prices are inflated to make room for "rebates etc". when theyre running specials it seems you can get 3500 to 5000 off plus whatever gm points you may have, though in ill. 1000 seems to be the max to use though have said it depends on gm card.some states try to add an advertising fee of 400 so beware of that. it really all comes down to supply and demand. if your area has low supply you may have to pay more.be smart ask for alot off you may get lucky.happy hunting.
  • nortsr1nortsr1 Posts: 1,060
    The GM Employee price is "LESS" than the invoice price...and then...subtract the rebate and the Conquest incentive. How much more do you expect???. On the GM employee pricing "from the manufacturer", the dealer gets a FLAT FEE from the manufacturer for that particular sale.
    I will repeat..."The employee discount price comes direct from the manufacturer and if you are are in any doubt at all....it is at the righthand (near the bottom) of the invoice which I am certain any GM dealer will show you. If the dealer wants to give you part of his GM fee (which I doubt)...than go for it and good luck.
    I am in no way connected with GM...but... the dealer is entitled to some profit.!!!!
  • rock12rock12 Posts: 2
    The 2005 base Vibe I bought had a sticker price of $21,405.00. The selling price after GMS pricing (employee discount), $1000 customer cash, and the $1000 conquest non-GM product trade-in allowance was $17, 349.05. That was of course before tax, tag, and doc fee. The $17, 349.05 was about $200 more than the base price, and I got the power group value package (pwr windows, cruise, programmable keyless remote), moon and tunes (sunroof, 200 watt stereo with subwoofer), auto trans, aluminum 16" mags, and XM radio essentially for that $200. I am somewhat stunned that anyone would think they should be able to do any better. The GMS was about $500 below the invoice price, and then another $2000 came off of that. The only way they could have done any better was to not charge me a doc fee, but since I thought this was their only real profit I didn't balk. The only other profit they are making on these is holdback, and it is not appropriate to try and negotiate that into a deal, and I don't think anyone will let you. I am usually happy when I can buy for $300 to $500 over the invoice. To be able to buy for $2500 below invoice is a no brainer if you like the vehicle. The salesmen hate the GMS pricing because it makes all of these sales a minimum $100 deal to them. Don't worry about them though, they will take someone to the cleaners on your trade-in. If you are looking to buy a Vibe, now is the time!
  • I certainly agree that a dealer is entitled to make their profit and i didn't mean to be obtuse or sound greedy in my post above (#118); I'm just trying to figure out how much the dealer retains on each vehicle and make an offer based on that. There are some posters who have got deals far cheaper than the GM employee price minus the $1000 customer cash minus the $1000 conquest bonus (see #86 & #97, for example). That, of course, demonstrates that it can be done, but that may be the result of incentives in place at the time they bought. It looks like the only one to report going under that level since the GM employee pricing deal began is #114. Anyone else out there have a report?
  • nortsr1nortsr1 Posts: 1,060
    mokesmith: instead of wondering how low they will go....why don't you go make an offer!!!!! Are you interested in purchasing a Vibe?????? There are no other incentives other than the $!000.00 rebate and the $1000.00 Conquest rebate.... PERIOD!!!!, and as I posted before...if you think you can get some of the actual dealer profit after Employee pricing and anothetr $2000.00 below that for the incentives...then go for it...instead of wandering about it!!!!
  • mjh7550mjh7550 Posts: 5
    Hi. Can you look in your owners manual and see if I can tow this vehicle 4 wheels down ? The dealer said No but I didn't see him look at a manual and it may only be his opinion. I would like to tow this AWD behind my RV. Thank you.
    Mike
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,899
    Hi Mike,
    Since this is the pricing discussion, you're more likely to get feedback from those who currently own the car in our regular Pontiac Vibe discussion, where owners can be found.

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    Thanks . Did it.
  • eilroseilros Posts: 35
    I just bought a GM Certified Satellite 2004 Vibe with 20,300 miles, automatic, alloys, ABS, monotone package, power package and cargo mat for $12,900 today. It seems to be a decent deal. I guess I'll know for sure in a few months. I pick it up on Friday and will try to post more after driving it all weekend.

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