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Chevrolet C6 Corvette

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  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I don't have a particular affinity for Corvettes, or any real knowledge of what the right price would be for a wrecked one. But, perhaps that is a good perspective for the friendly advice I am about to give:

    IMO, unless you can comfortably afford $55k +/- for a new Corvette, I don't think you should be looking to spend $35k-$40k on a previously wrecked one. Think about your exit strategy: If you ever have to or want to sell this car, who in the world is going to pay much of anything for a two-owner, previously wrecked car? It's not as though this is a fixer upper house in a nice, irreplaceable neighborhood that is likely to appreciate. A sports car is a purely discretionary - frivolous even - purchase. Most buyers don't want someone else's damaged goods.

    Now, if you could easily write a check for $55k for a brand new Corvette, but are looking at this purely and objectively as a potentially better financial deal (taking into accout future exit issues), go for it. You might win the bet or lose the bet, but at least it won't break the bank.

    My point is that, IMO, there are better things to do with $35-$40k than "stretch" to buy a wrecked sports car. But that's just my opinion.
  • donz1donz1 Posts: 4
    Hey guyz, I am currently thinking about getting a Corvette C6 Full option. I would really like your advice on the options that I should take .. because they are quite expensive .. after everything the price was about 64k ,, so I want to know what options are necessary for the Corvette to turn heads. Thanks alot
  • ndmike88ndmike88 Posts: 155
    Check into Corsa Indy's. I have the Indy Tiger Sharks on my '04. Can't hear them just crusing, but sound great when you get on it. If you go the Corsa route think about getting the "X" pipe also.
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    I probably should just skip this, but here goes. I don't get it! Buy what you like or need but who cars if it turns heads? The type of heads that some cars turn are probably not going to make my day. I got my Vette because 1. I fit in it comfortably, 2. I thought it would be fun after 15 years in a Nissan Pulsar, 3. I enjoyed 12 years in an MG but that size sports car now is just too tight for a leading edge baby boom couple, 4. I could afford it and 5. I had some vague notion that I would learn to drive better. The options became a function of what I was looking for, I got a 6 speed to have fun and got the performance suspension incase I got to drive it in say an auto cross, I got the 12 disc CD since I thought the wife and I might do some trips, we have, and that went with the sports seats and dual zone A/C, etc. As to the electronics in the C6 they only way you are going to know if it will work for you is to do research and not just get opinions. Good Luck,
    Randy

    BTW, some 20 something on Van Ness in San Francisco in a vert Mustang pulled up next to me once and said, 'beautiful ride', I said Thank You.
  • blkhemiblkhemi Posts: 1,717
    $64k for a regular C6? Why not add a grand and get a Z06 at 65K. You'll have better resale value retention and the bragging rights to match
  • tsytsy Posts: 1,551
    I'm assuming you're talking about a convertible- because a loaded coupe shouldn't be that much. As far as turning heads, do you mean cosmetic options? Because no one is going to notice if you have Nav or the Z51 etc, it will look the same. Chrome wheels will make it look different. You could put a huge Subwoofer in and make people turn heads. (j/k!) ;) I'm not sure what you're getting at by 'turning heads'.

    We bought our C6 because it's a great car, comfortable and fast, not because we wanted attention. If you want attention, buy a used Ferrari or 911 or even a Maserati.

    BTW, a Z06 is about $74 with dealer markup these days. (at least the last quote I was given last week)

    Good luck

    tom
  • blkhemiblkhemi Posts: 1,717
    And that's why I opted not to buy from dealers because of the mark-up. $74k is what I paid Bowling Green for a factory order Z06 with a few options on it that you can't get at a dealer.
  • tsytsy Posts: 1,551
    I would love to have done that. It's just that Kentucky is really far away from the west coast! It must have been fun though (did you get to 'birth' a vette?)

    tom
  • blkhemiblkhemi Posts: 1,717
    Of course, and I did the museum thingy and everything. Very educational, just when ya thought ya knew everything about Vettes.

    You could've still hooked up with Bowling Green, you just would've been slapped with freight charges.
  • donz1donz1 Posts: 4
    Umm .. I really like the corvette and yes a convertible is what I want .. If the zo6 had a convertible style I would most definitly think about it. A used modena is about 100k+ and I actually don't like it .. I am in the united states as an International student so buying a car that expensive is very useless. I got the final price for the C6 convertible with tax. It's about 68k .. Is that a good price to pay for a C6 ? ... please respond.
  • I don`t know what part of the USA. you air in but check out kerbeck.com they have convertibles around 50k. It might be worth flying out there to by one.
  • jmessjmess Posts: 677
    It's a buyer's market right now for C6s in most areas so you should be able to get a substantial discount. Kerbeck's is offering $5K off MSRP for Verts right now.
  • hi guys, new to the vette board...just bought my dream car...05 convertible with loaded except onstar. Anyway, a couple of questions for the experts:

    1. What can I do to improve horsepower and not void warranty? I believe exhaust, manifold and air. Sorry for the ignorance, I just know how to look good in the car and drive it..ha ha ha Also, can you be specific (ie brands u recommend and what price range and how much HP it will increase it by...

    2. What are the performance numbers for the 05 stick shift. IE 0-60 MPH i see a lot of different numbers...

    thks guys, I really appriciate it. TAKE CARE AND DRIVE YOUR CARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    All hearsay, so can't prove a thing, but the general discussion on the C5 was don't do heads and cam but any external add on would not seem to be a problem. What they look for seems to be abuse rather than just mod's However, with my C5 I added an oil cooler and when I had some electrical problems I had no issues with either work at the end of the GM warranty or a month later with GMPP extended warranty. I think it does matter where you take it, some dealers are into service and some seem to be a pain just for the sake of being contrary. Hard to judge since comments on the internet never tell the whole story.

    Then again why add HP when you can spend money on learning to drive better? Run a few laps at a local road course and see what kind of cars are running similar lap times. You might be surprised at what is passing you and with a few trips with instruction what you could pass. Nothing like passing a GT3 and watching it receed in the rearview as you pull away, knowing that there are no red lights when you are on track. Hard to describe here how much fun getting the Vette up to speed can be when you know how!
    Randy
    BTW 0-60 times are driver dependent and then surface/weather dependent, just like driving on track, practice will make you better. Launches from a stop are really hard on any car.
  • It has been almost a year since I bought my 2005 C6 Z51 Corvette lemon from Koon's in northern, VA. The auto transmission failed after 3 days and 300 highway mile. To make a long story short, they didn't fix the car after 3 chances and replacing the transmission, torque tube, and wiring harness. I had to throw a fit to even get a rental car from a different dealer where the car broke down. The general manager agreed to give me another car. They had an exact match on their lot. Even though I reserved that car with 3 managers, I got a call saying they sold that vehicle to another customer. They claimed that they had taken a deposit on that car before I reserved it. Total lies. Then I demanded my money back. They tried to screw me by offering $2,000 less on my trade in than what they paid for it. They said my trade in appraised at 2,000 less. Total BS. Thats when I hired a consumer lawyer. Two months later, I got all the money I paid for the car plus $3,000 in attorney's fees. I bought an Acura because it totally shattered my dream of owning a Corvette. I do believe that this one car was a lemon and an isloated example. But, beware if something like this happens to you. You will be treated like crap and will have to fight the company every step of the way!
  • I love the shape of the C6 and after not driving American for quite a number of years, I'd say this is one car I'd consider. Perhaps those knowledgeable could answer a few questions for me.

    1)What are the trade offs between the coupe and convertible? Can you fit 2 sets of golf clubs in each? How much storage space does the vert give up and how difficult is it to remove the panel on the coupe. Is the ride much quieter in the coupe?

    2) Will they sell you the car with all seasons? Living in the NE I know it won't be a good snow car but to drive summer only tires in the cold where they are rock hard is uncomfortable and if a dusting of snow or some ice, very dangerous.

    3) Edmunds is critical of the seat comfort. Any other thoughts as that is an area that is important to me having found the BMW and MB seats make it possible for long drive time in max comfort.

    4) How quiet is the car in normal around town and highway driving?

    Thank you for any and all input.
  • tsytsy Posts: 1,551
    I drove both and ended up with the coupe, and had many of the same questions.

    1) Yes you can easily fit 2 sets of golf clubs- although if you have extra long drivers they may have to come out of the bag and fit semi-diagonally. The Coupe does have more storage space than the vert. I couldn't tell a difference in rigidity, although I'd guess the coupe is probably more rigid. I didn't find the vert significantly more noisy than the coupe (which was a pleasant surprise). The targa top of the coupe is not terribly heavy (40lbs?) and can be removed alone (if you don't have a bad back!)

    2) Sorry, don't know the answer to this as it rarely snows here. I did live in the NE and I'm guessing this car would not do well in snow and certainly not on ice and is probably a 'garage car' when it snows. As far as I know, they don't make all seasons or winter tires in these sizes.

    3) Seat comfort is a personal thing. Depends on what you like and your body habitus. I recently spent 3 hours in traffic and did ok.

    4) the car is very quiet- relative to other cars of similar performance! ;) It's no Lexus, but it's reasonable quiet and comfortable and could (and is) be driven on a daily basis. It's much more comfortable than a 911 or Viper, which to me is amazing. I'm not sure how the engineers did it (of course I'm not talking about the Z51 or Z06- which are a little more uncomfortable ride wise- but still tolerable)

    I guess it's not a good time of year for test drives there in NE. Find a dealer willing to let you test drive both and you'll be impressed (I was, and not much impresses me anymore) It's a great car, a blast to drive, comfortable to use everyday, and reasonable well put together. Warning, it's not a BMW or Merc (or Lexus) and don't expect it to be. Inside it's all business- nothing fancy (almost like older Porsches, the 993s and earlier) which to me is a good thing.

    good luck. It's probably the best production American car out there today.

    tom
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    That seems to be the best way to get a good look at the C6. Looking is the only real input, opinions vary.

    FWIW on the winter driving, I was up running on a road course for a weekend last spring at Reno-Fernley Raceway and the weather was great, low 60's. Going back to SF area over Truckee I-80 pass it was snowing at the ag... inspection station and about 34 degrees at the summit. I'm on summer performance Kuhmo's and in heavy stop and go with some open areas I did 15/20 miles in slush, sometimes up to a few inches between lanes having to do lane changes over an ice berm. You have to remember, Active Handling, it's amazing I didn't push but it still came on a few times just enough to nudge me into straight course. The car can be driven in weather but with only 3.5"'s of clearance it isn't going to do well in much snow buildup.
  • jmessjmess Posts: 677
    All season run flats aren't a factory option but they are avaialable from GoodYear tire dealers like the Tirerack.
  • tsytsy Posts: 1,551
    Actually, tire rack only has 2 tires that will fit the vette, both max performance summer tires. Goodyear only has 2 tires in that size, both summer tires, one being the OE run flats.

    This car just was never meant to be driven in snow. :D

    tom
  • blkhemiblkhemi Posts: 1,717
    This car just was never meant to be driven in snow

    I agree with that statement. Who in their right mind would drive a Vette in the snow? Maybe the reason that snow shoes aren't offered on Vettes is because GM didn't design it to be driven in the snow.
  • The idea wasn't to use the Vette as a snow car but the fact that the high performance summer tires usually become rock hard and very slick in cold weather and IF one was out when a slight dusting accumulated that was perhaps unforeseen. I have seen Vettes and Porche etc out in the winter in the NE so I was wondering if they had all season rubber for the above stated reasons.
  • jmessjmess Posts: 677
    Search for the sizes (like 285-35-19) and select allseason:

    "The M+S rated Eagle F1 A/S-C EMT is Goodyear's Ultra High Performance All-Season radial developed for the Chevrolet C-6 Corvette that was designed to provide traction on dry and wet roads, as well as in occasional light snow.

    NOTE: There currently aren't any dedicated winter tires available in C-6 Corvette sizes.

    The Eagle F1 A/S-C EMT features Goodyear's self-supporting Extended Mobility Technology to temporarily provide drivability even after a complete loss of air pressure while eliminating the traditional spare tire and wheel to allow more storage and luggage space."
  • Don't laugh, you only get to need hand controls if you are lucky enough to live long enough. I don't need it yet but I might in the distant future, I'm 6'3" tall, getting older, stiffer and have size 14 feet.
    Has anyone had foot brake hand control or both foot brake and accelerator hand controls installed on a C6 automatic coupe? Manufacturer, model, installer, how tall are you, how did it work out, how do you like it?
  • tsytsy Posts: 1,551
    Hmm. That's funny. I looked up the goodyear website and they didn't have anything available. So much for my search! :(

    I would consider a 911 Carrera 4 if you really think you're going to be driving in snow. But even AWD isn't going to save you with those big summer tires.

    tom
  • I'm sure all weather run flats must be available for the C6. I would love to hear what most owners really love about their C6's. Does it keep the smile on your face month after month of daily driving? The last car that did that for me was my BMW 330i. Then I went practical and went for a Lexus LS430 (I know, what a sell out!) Anyway it's a great car for what it is, super luxury, fantastic quality and very quiet and smooth. But, it's boring. And I'm too young to be that old. (Can you say mid life crisis!)
    So I want the smiles back and the look of the C6 gives that to me. I also like the fact that it is what it is. In other words, it doesn't try to be all things to all people and wind up as some middle ground compromise. I just want to know that it's liveable as a daily commuter in the NE for at least 90% of the time when there is not a lot of white stuff around. I do want to drive it in cold and wet weather though. I haven't had an American car since my early 80's caddy. Only German or Japanese since.

    Why does Consumer Reports rate the vette much worse than average in reliability, yet the satisfaction of the owners is sky high?

    What are the pros and cons of the roof vs vert.
  • jmessjmess Posts: 677
    topspin628, I dumped my IS300 SportCross and bought a C6 and don't regret it for a minute. The more time you spend in the C6 the more you appreciate what a monster it can be to drive but it also can be a [non-permissible content removed] cat; it is really depends on the mood you are in.

    I drive my C6 in wet and cold weather and the only problem is remembering you have 400HP and summers tires that don't like freezing weather. So when it is really cold you just have to be more careful when and how you get on the power.

    The only long term daily driver issue I can see is the tire noise could get old. The 285-35-19 rear tires are really wide and they tend to make noise at freeway speeds. I always where ear plugs when I drive longer distances, even with the Lexus, so it doesn't bother me.

    If you get one of these cars you are more likely to have a problem than say a Honda. Some people have no problems, some one or two, and a very few have multiple problems. They only make about 36,000 vettes are year so the owner sample base is much smaller than say a 150K Honda Accords. A 100 C6 owners who have problems is statistically more significant that 100 Accord owners with problems due to the lower volume of C6s. Some people get bad Hondas,Lexus,BMWs and some people get bad C6s.

    The majority of the C6 problems occurred with the first 6000 or so 05s. As the model year went on GM made changes and the 06s should be more reliable than the 05s.

    The pro of the coupe is having more space to haul stuff in the rear. The con is having to remove the top and install the top when you park it. In the summer time it can be a hassle to remove and install the roof. It is easy to do but if you are making sort trips it can be a pain. The coupe is also cheaper if that matters to you.
  • jms6jms6 Posts: 1
    After years of looking, I am finally ready to buy my first Corvette - a convertible. And at my age, it could be my last one. Interested in a 2006, silver, with gray top. Car will be driven for pleasure on good roads.

    1. Will I regret it if I don't get the F55 suspension option? Is the standard suspension tuned more toward the "tour" side or the "sport" side?

    2. Any comments on that color combination? I haven't seen it in person. If someone owns that combination and could email me a picture, great.
  • jmessjmess Posts: 677
    For me the F55 has been great. I use sport mode most of the time unless the road is really rough.

    Here is a review of the mag shock technology when it came out in the 2003 C5 that convinced me the F55 was a nice to have option.

    http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/kb/question.php?qstId=503

    Search some of the corvette forums and you should be able to find a pic of a silver vert with grey top. I have a silver coupe with ebony interior.
  • bigmike5bigmike5 Posts: 960
    I have never had my 04 C5 off of "touring" mode so I cannot comment on the difference between sport and touring. But in the touring mode, the car handles very well and is not a lot more bumpy than my 99 Chrysler 300M. A little bit, because of the shorter platform, but not much. When I picked the car up the salesman had just taken my car and another new Vette to fill the tank before handing them over to the new owners. He had never done much driving in them either, as Vettes were new to the dealership which had recently bought out a Chevy dealer up the street. He was however a real gearhead, and he said to me that driving the same road to the gas station he could definitely tell the difference in how the two cars rode with one in "tour" and one in "sport" and he thought the touring mode was really very good. Its a $1,700 add on but I think it is a good investment in comfort. :shades:
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